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Nocomment25
post Feb 20 2017, 01:50 PM

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Hi all,

I'm quite amazed by the level of knowledge and level of maturity we have here.. really take me by surprise, I really thought bitcoin in malaysia is still 'ais age' though still many are yet to know.

In my personal opinion.. I think we are getting abit paranoia about cold storage. I think if we plan to buy BTC in big numbers like our forummers taikors here then yes.. please go ahead and get a hardware wallet..
Is a must!! Get yourself protected..

For those who are starting out and still testing water, leave the cold storage aside first.. I mean if u have 0.001BTC, what cold storage u r talking about!!

If u start to accumulate around 1-2BTC then yes.. time to think like a pro and guard it as much as u can..

Hope it helps!


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post Feb 20 2017, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Nocomment25 @ Feb 20 2017, 01:50 PM)
Hi all,

I'm quite amazed by the level of knowledge and level of  maturity we have here.. really take me by surprise, I really thought bitcoin in malaysia is still 'ais age' though still many are yet to know.

In my personal opinion.. I think we are getting abit paranoia about cold storage. I think if we plan to buy BTC in big numbers like our forummers taikors here then yes.. please go ahead and get a hardware wallet..
Is a must!! Get yourself protected..

For those who are starting out and still testing water, leave the cold storage aside first.. I mean if u have 0.001BTC, what cold storage u r talking about!!

If u start to accumulate around 1-2BTC then yes.. time to think like a pro and guard it as much as u can..

Hope it helps!
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Ah OK, yes you made a good point also.
I probably should have pointed it out sooner.
If just starting out and buying 0.001BTC then it makes no sense to invest hundreds of ringgit in a hardware wallet.
I've once heard of a general rule of thumb of factor-5.
Meaning, if you are going to buy bitcoins worth 5 times more than a hardware wallet (which costs approx. USD 120 these days) then it's advisable to get one.
Thanks for pointing this out.
Don't want to scare people away from bitcoins by thinking they have a very heavy upfront hardware investment!

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post Feb 20 2017, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Feb 20 2017, 11:56 AM)
Well, that's the beauty about cryptocurrencies......they are decentralised, and the value depends on whatever people think they are worth.
If that hypothetical situation really happens (USD crash), then my prediction is that the bitcoin value will soar exponentially.

Think about it this way.
Currently, the USD is only worth what it is worth at the moment, because all the other countries in the world use it for international trade, and everyone collectively say it is worth this much, at this time.
If the US dollar crashes, that just means that people think it is not worth this much anymore, and nobody wants to keep it anymore, meaning people are selling it off for cash in their own currency.
All those cash need to go somewhere (people don't trust banks anymore as the bank interest rates are generally barely enough to beat inflation) so they would then place them into other investment vehicles, and bitcoin is one of the fastest growing ones, gaining popularity on a global scale.
At the same time, American citizens would realise that their own savings in USD is getting devalued at a crazy pace, so in order to stop their losses, they need to convert their savings into something that is not as volatile, and again, bitcoin offers exactly that.
Traditionally, people in these situations put their money into gold, as it is seen as a safe hedge during economic turmoil, but these days, bitcoin offers the same, with more security and versatility.
The problem is, there are only limited numbers of bitcoins available, and only 21 million bitcoins will ever be available, EVER.
So, the more money pours into the bitcoin market capitalisation (i.e. the higher the demand), the higher the price will go.

Above is just an extremely simplified scenario (much more factors are involved), but I hope it sort of answers your question to some extent.
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Yes, that's the answer I'm looking for. thumbup.gif

If bitcoin goes higher, they probably have to split the value like stock split. Imagine buying a pizza for 0.0000000001 BTC. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Nocomment25 @ Feb 20 2017, 01:50 PM)
Hi all,

I'm quite amazed by the level of knowledge and level of  maturity we have here.. really take me by surprise, I really thought bitcoin in malaysia is still 'ais age' though still many are yet to know.

In my personal opinion.. I think we are getting abit paranoia about cold storage. I think if we plan to buy BTC in big numbers like our forummers taikors here then yes.. please go ahead and get a hardware wallet..
Is a must!! Get yourself protected..

For those who are starting out and still testing water, leave the cold storage aside first.. I mean if u have 0.001BTC, what cold storage u r talking about!!

If u start to accumulate around 1-2BTC then yes.. time to think like a pro and guard it as much as u can..

Hope it helps!
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Yes, I'm amazed myself. Should have asked here much earlier when bitcoin was hovering around USD 300-400. I actually wanted to buy then but found it extremely difficult to buy using MYR. Oh well, better late than never. nod.gif


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post Feb 20 2017, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 20 2017, 05:47 PM)
Yes, that's the answer I'm looking for.  thumbup.gif

If bitcoin goes higher, they probably have to split the value like stock split. Imagine buying a pizza for 0.0000000001 BTC.  biggrin.gif
Yes, I'm amazed myself. Should have asked here much earlier when bitcoin was hovering around USD 300-400. I actually wanted to buy then but found it extremely difficult to buy using MYR. Oh well, better late than never.  nod.gif
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At the moment, the smallest division of bitcoin sub-unit is the satoshi, which is equivalent to 0.00000001 BTC (one hundred millionth of a bitcoin).
But you're right, if the value continues to go up, perhaps one day it might be necessary to divide it even smaller.
The blockchain technology is designed so that further subdivisions are possible in future.

Don't think about what "could have been" by looking in the past.
We always have perfect vision in hindsight......back then, while the value was still low, there were not so many companies and businesses that agreed to adopt bitcoin as an acceptable form of payment, so if things didn't work out, you could very well have seen the USD 300 value drop to USD 0.30 per bitcoin.
On the other hand, if the value goes to USD 10k per bitcoin in future, you will be thinking to yourself, "Why didn't I buy more bitcoins when it was so cheap at USD 1000 per bitcoin...???"



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QUOTE(wengherng @ Feb 20 2017, 06:18 PM)
At the moment, the smallest division of bitcoin sub-unit is the satoshi, which is equivalent to 0.00000001 BTC (one hundred millionth of a bitcoin).
But you're right, if the value continues to go up, perhaps one day it might be necessary to divide it even smaller.
The blockchain technology is designed so that further subdivisions are possible in future.

Don't think about what "could have been" by looking in the past.
We always have perfect vision in hindsight......back then, while the value was still low, there were not so many companies and businesses that agreed to adopt bitcoin as an acceptable form of payment, so if things didn't work out, you could very well have seen the USD 300 value drop to USD 0.30 per bitcoin.
On the other hand, if the value goes to USD 10k per bitcoin in future, you will be thinking to yourself, "Why didn't I buy more bitcoins when it was so cheap at USD 1000 per bitcoin...???"
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Yeah, not looking back. From my reading (of some sources), there are reasons to believe that bitcoin may go up further. Hence the reason why I chose bitcoin over stocks. To me, the overall stock market is sky-high just waiting for a crash (Have been waiting for market to crash for quite some time actually sweat.gif ). Bitcoin may crash too but the potential to go up is also there. Only time will tell...... smile.gif

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post Feb 21 2017, 12:40 PM

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Damn you bitcoin. You're going up too fast. Please come down a bit. sad.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 21 2017, 12:40 PM)
Damn you bitcoin. You're going up too fast. Please come down a bit. sad.gif
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Wow.. it is so high now... happyyyyyyyy
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 21 2017, 01:03 PM)
Wow.. it is so high now... happyyyyyyyy
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Lucky you didn't sell to me tongue.gif

Oh no, increase some more!!!! sweat.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 21 2017, 12:40 PM)
Damn you bitcoin. You're going up too fast. Please come down a bit. sad.gif
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Perhaps you can consider to exercise dollar cost averaging.
And if it helps, maybe you can try to think like this: if the future price of a bitcoin will go up to RM10k per bitcoin (for example), will it still matter so much whether you bought it at USD 1000 or USD 1080 now?

Hope that helps to ease the pain a little...... biggrin.gif

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post Feb 21 2017, 04:14 PM

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Haha.. I totally agree with wengherng, is just inner game. Though I would like to note that bitcoin now is more like hoarding than using it for day to day transactions. I hope someday there is still bitcoin around.. I really wonder. 21mil in circulation is not really allot tho.. is just take a size of Malaysia with 1BTC each to freeze all bitcoin circulation..

BTW, I would like to accumulate more if the price go down.. just dreaming only la..

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post Feb 21 2017, 04:18 PM

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Oppsss... looks like someone brought allot of BTC after reading this..
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post Feb 21 2017, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Feb 21 2017, 03:38 PM)
Perhaps you can consider to exercise dollar cost averaging.
And if it helps, maybe you can try to think like this: if the future price of a bitcoin will go up to RM10k per bitcoin (for example), will it still matter so much whether you bought it at USD 1000 or USD 1080 now?

Hope that helps to ease the pain a little......  biggrin.gif
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Already accumulating but still not reaching my target amount as I wanted to wait for my hardware wallet. Looks like I can't wait, just have to use software wallet like Airbitz for now.

Thx for the easing of pain. biggrin.gif I'm actually thinking along that line too, that it doesn't matter it is going up as my target price is at least x5.... ya ya, I'm dreaming... smile.gif
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post Feb 21 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 21 2017, 04:37 PM)
Already accumulating but still not reaching my target amount as I wanted to wait for my hardware wallet. Looks like I can't wait, just have to use software wallet like Airbitz for now.

Thx for the easing of pain. biggrin.gif I'm actually thinking along that line too, that it doesn't matter it is going up as my target price is at least x5.... ya ya, I'm dreaming... smile.gif
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If you don't mind sharing, what's your target amount, that you mentioned above?
Thinking of joining the Million Club?


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post Feb 21 2017, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Feb 21 2017, 05:23 PM)
If you don't mind sharing, what's your target amount, that you mentioned above?
Thinking of joining the Million Club?
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Hehe, not wise to reveal things on internet. Let's just say my first transaction's profit based on current price already paid for my hardware wallet. Not important because as mentioned, I'm cutting big tree with small knife, like what we used to say in stock trading. Of course, the big tree can still fall on us!!!! biggrin.gif

Oh ya, definitely cannot join millionaire club! sad.gif what about you tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 21 2017, 12:40 PM)
Damn you bitcoin. You're going up too fast. Please come down a bit. sad.gif
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and we say Moon...
crazy jump today.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 21 2017, 03:34 PM)
Lucky you didn't sell to me tongue.gif

Oh no, increase some more!!!! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sirxl @ Feb 21 2017, 09:29 PM)
and we say Moon...
crazy jump today.
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QUOTE(sirxl @ Feb 21 2017, 09:29 PM)
and we say Moon...
crazy jump today.
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Thx to China. If not, the price will probably be higher as below laugh.gif :

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Disclaimer : No, I did not do any statistical analysis. I just drew the line using mspaint..... whistling.gif

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post Feb 21 2017, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 21 2017, 05:42 PM)
Hehe, not wise to reveal things on internet. Let's just say my first transaction's profit based on current price already paid for my hardware wallet. Not important because as mentioned, I'm cutting big tree with small knife, like what we used to say in stock trading. Of course, the big tree can still fall on us!!!! biggrin.gif

Oh ya, definitely cannot join millionaire club! sad.gif what about you tongue.gif
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Well, let's just say I set a target for myself to join the million club first.
Then slowly build up from there.
But even now I am still a long way away from achieving that first step.
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QUOTE(wengherng @ Feb 21 2017, 11:30 PM)
Well, let's just say I set a target for myself to join the million club first.
Then slowly build up from there.
But even now I am still a long way away from achieving that first step.
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Cool. Hope to meet you in the BTC millionaire club one day! thumbup.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 21 2017, 11:59 PM)
Cool. Hope to meet you in the BTC millionaire club one day!  thumbup.gif
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At current prices, it would take just over USD 23k to join the prestigious club...... shocking.gif
Damn, I'm not saving fast enough!


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