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wengherng
post Dec 29 2016, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(TheConqueror @ Dec 29 2016, 02:14 PM)
By the way, what is the best price to sell?
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It'll take plenty of shamans and crystal balls to come up with that answer...... biggrin.gif
Seriously, though, many financial experts and analysts (except the naysayers) are recommending to hold, instead of sell.
We haven't seen the end of this bull run yet, I dare say. hmm.gif
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post Dec 29 2016, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(TheConqueror @ Dec 29 2016, 02:13 PM)
Just transferred my coins from CoinBox to Bread Wallet though the transfer take about 20hours.
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Is there any particular reason you chose Bread Wallet compared to other wallets like, say, Blockchain.info?

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post Dec 29 2016, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 29 2016, 08:47 AM)
How about investors' fund?
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Who knows......
Perhaps, like BitX, they gave sufficient notice to all their investors to either withdraw or transfer out their bitcoins before the website closed down.
But, technically speaking, if they didn't alert anyone and just suddenly closed down one fine day, I suspect all the funds would then be lost to the investors, and into the company owner's pockets, because they are the ones holding the private keys for the investors.
Letting an exchange site have control over your private keys is something akin to giving your physical wallet and cash to some stranger on the street, and basically just hoping that he'll still be there the next day and not run off with your money.

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post Jan 1 2017, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(jun6065168 @ Dec 31 2016, 11:17 AM)
Helo I'm new to bitcoin. Where can I buy bitcoin mining hardware in Malaysia. Would like to try mining in small amount.
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With so many large scale miners worldwide, especially in China and northern Europe, I'm not sure individual mining is really a profitable endeavor anymore these days.
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post Jan 1 2017, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(jun6065168 @ Jan 1 2017, 10:14 AM)
So most ppl does trading only?
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Well, initially mining was good business, but the beauty of the bitcoin technology is that it is self-regulating, so as more and more miners jumped on the bandwagon, with increasingly better, faster and more sophisticated hardware, causing the collective computing power of the blockchain to increase tremendously, the algorithm has adjusted itself to be exponentially more complex to solve, meaning you'd need really serious hardware.
Now, if you want to compete with these high tech miners, you'd need very expensive hardware (think tens of thousands of RM) running 24/7 just to have a serious chance to compete, and most likely, the returns you get is not even worth all the electricity bills you'd be paying throughout the year.
Now the competition is even more intense after the halving that happened this year.
It's not impossible, but think very carefully before you decide to go down this path.

Otherwise, the "easier" path to take is the trading or investing path, i.e. buy and sell.


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post Jan 3 2017, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(soket @ Jan 2 2017, 10:49 AM)
i mine for fun  laugh.gif
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To be honest, I don't personally anyone who is doing mining, so please do let us know your experience after you have tried mining.
I'm quite interested to know actually.
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post Jan 4 2017, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Jan 4 2017, 05:31 PM)
ermmm since so many ppl interested in mining i will share a bit of what i know.

back then, ppl use computer to mine btc aka gpu mining. you need to setup, downloand mining software, etc etc. now btc is dominated by asec (hope i spell if correctly), these machines are damn efficient, low power big hasrate but its damn pricy and useless when newer version is out. due to these asec invaders, pc mining died off. why died off? because its easier to mine causes the  hashrate increase, the more hashrate the higher the difficulties. in short, you will get less btc day by day with the same machine.

you can try to buy 2nd hand asec miner for cheaper price, but its totally not profitable unless you have free electricity.

i have been mining on and off for fun, but not really worth the time to monitor such small profit. but for the sake of learning and fun.
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Yup, you're right!
They're called ASICs (Application-Specific Integrated Circuits).
These days, I hear that you won't even earn enough from mining to cover the electricity costs.



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post Jan 5 2017, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(XkelvinchiaX @ Jan 5 2017, 12:39 AM)
Its good time to invest BTC? anybody please advice.
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A good time to invest in BTC would have been back in 2009 when it was merely cents each.
It's risen by more than 100% in 2016 alone.
We're starting to see the beginning of a bull run now, so personally, I'd say yes, now would be a good time to get some bitcoins.
This is just my personal opinion, and is not a recommendation to buy or sell.

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post Jan 6 2017, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(koonghx @ Jan 5 2017, 10:53 AM)
Previously, you said you sell BTC?
Where you get BTC?

Every week I buy around RM20K in btc
but all through Localbitcoins and they are quite expensive...
Coinbox and Bitx down and the xbit asia volume quite low and process the deposits quite slowly.
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Wah......every week can buy RM20k of BTC......you are damn rich...... notworthy.gif
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post Jan 6 2017, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Jan 5 2017, 09:41 AM)
its totally a gamble to invest in btc, 1 hack in major exchange will force down the btc value. it used to be 700usd in early 2016, then 1 btc exchange announce the have been hacked and it dip down to 500usd per btc... so now the rally up till 1000+btc.

as for btc mining, totally not worth it. cloud mining no comment since i never tried cloud mining. i prefer buying pc stuffs, build rig, setting etc etc....
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On the contrary, I look at the dips as a major discount to accumulate even more. biggrin.gif


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post Jan 6 2017, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(lucifart @ Jan 5 2017, 09:29 PM)
Horry shit bitcoin drop usd-200++ just like that...anybody know wut is going on laugh.gif
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Since the price has broken through the psychological barrier of USD 1000, and inching near the all-time high, a lot of traders are starting to cash out their profits.
A price correction like this is inevitable, and in fact I see it as a good thing.
Small and frequent corrections will help to stabilise the volatility, and prevent huge catastrophic crashes like the one in 2013.


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post Jan 6 2017, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(effectz @ Jan 6 2017, 09:57 PM)
Since June 2016. After halving you can see decline in return. Don't wait till next halving. Anything focused on multilevel referral don't trust. Choose the one focusing on mining.
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How have your returns been so far, since June 2016?
Mind to share?
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post Jan 7 2017, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(effectz @ Jan 7 2017, 03:36 PM)
Hard to quantify. It depends on hashpower.
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Oh, I mean in terms of bitcoins, how many bitcoins can you actually earn from mining?
E.g. approximately 0.01 bitcoins since the last 6 months, etc.
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post Jan 7 2017, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(effectz @ Jan 7 2017, 10:52 PM)
Now about 0.05, unlimited contract. I bought 1 year eth mining too. Gonna exchange eth for btc after 1 y.
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Cool, thanks for sharing.
That gives a rough idea of the returns of mining.
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post Jan 8 2017, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 8 2017, 04:03 PM)
Quite a good way to store value long term....👍🏻

USD appreciates fast against RM...and Bitcoin even appreciate faster than USD....lol 😅

Yeah provided u buy during dips DCA after it drops certain percentage and sell once it appreciates certain percentage u can continue to hedge ur wealth well

Usually ppl do this on Gold...but it seems bitcoin is much better appreciation...
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Indeed.
Though, I admit I am more of a "hodler" than a trader......so far I've only been buying, not selling (especially since the dip now).
I have high hopes for BTC!
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post Jan 9 2017, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(archangel22 @ Jan 9 2017, 10:34 AM)
ive tried trading. if you want to know how current stock market high frequency trading feels like, try to do intraday trading in btc. you'll feel like a machine. the more you seek profit/gains, you become more like machine. no eat, sleep, social etc. awake 24hrs bcse the whole world is trading btc.

the thing with trading is that it's almost impossible to time the up and down, whatever your position is, almost for sure you're losing either as realised loss or opportunity cost. short term wise it's gonna be a headache. long term seems no sure, but those who has invested since btc was worth $1 is still have a chance to keep getting their wealth intact, until the time value become less $1. hoping for btc to drop back to $1 is like hoping a cryptocurrency owner to convert back to fiat.

imho  laugh.gif
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Which is why I never do trading, either for my funds, stocks or now bitcoins.
I'm too lazy for that.
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post Jan 9 2017, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(klthor @ Jan 9 2017, 02:15 PM)
unless there is no other option, else i will just sell in the market. less hassle,
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Yeah, me too.
But I am holding out for the longer term now, unless I definitely need the money.
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QUOTE(lucifart @ Jan 9 2017, 11:36 PM)
So are u saying if I sell you my 10 bitcoin, you willing to buy at rm40k which at this moment is cheaper than market price... So how u confirm??
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How I wish I have some spare cash right now...... cry.gif
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post Jan 11 2017, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(keevster @ Jan 10 2017, 11:16 PM)
Hi All,

I was just scammed trying to buy bitcoin and wanted to share my experience.

Anyway I'm quite new to bitcoin and I have learnt an expensive lesson. I usually buy from Reminato. But this time I got a number from the "MY Bitcoin Malaysia" Telegram channel.
I should have known not to trust anyone like this but he gave his MBB account number and hence I would have his name and number.

After I transferred the money. I waited and waited but nothing came in. 10 minutes later I know something went wrong.

Anyway Scammers details are as follows:
Scammers number: 0138698345 - This number is likely prepaid.

MBB Name: Chan Kuo Wei
Account Number : 551128620769

email: belibtc@gmail.com
Yes I was really stupid. Anyway please be warned of this guy.
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Very sorry to hear that.
Did you call the number back to check what is the problem?
But, since you have the name and account number, please do not just let it go.
Get ready all the written correspondence with this individual, and quickly lodge a police report and contact Maybank and also BNM to raise an alert for this issue, as this is clearly a case of criminal fraud.
Scammers thrive on the bet that the victims will not bother to take any action, in which case they will be emboldened to continue their criminal acts.




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post Jan 11 2017, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(lucifart @ Jan 10 2017, 02:28 PM)
I bought about 20 bitcoin when its around usd 200...its ok lah malaysia mentality wont help pipu one... whistling.gif anyway have buyers liao for some of my bitcoin whistling.gif
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20 BTC at USD200...! Damn...lucky you! shocking.gif



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