Is it possible and any benefit to add medical card (rider)to an existing life insurance policy with AIA (Excel Life)?
Insurance Talk V2, Anything and everything about insurance
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Oct 2 2015, 06:17 AM
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Is it possible and any benefit to add medical card (rider)to an existing life insurance policy with AIA (Excel Life)?
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Oct 2 2015, 06:34 PM
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Which medical card is the most attractive in the market now?
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Oct 5 2015, 06:45 PM
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Am considering Standalone vs ILP Medical plan, which is better?
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Oct 6 2015, 08:49 AM
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Is it generally maximum age for standalone medical plan higher than ILP?
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Oct 6 2015, 09:22 AM
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Currently, I have comprehensive medical coverage by company. Any individual standalone medical plan or ILP with high deductibles, and can be converted to zero deductibles later years after I left the company?
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Oct 6 2015, 11:25 AM
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Standalone Medical plan cannot be purchased for those above 70, is that the same for ILP?
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Oct 22 2015, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Oct 20 2015, 01:56 PM) AIA and GE medical policies now are very very similar. Since GE has lifetime limit and AIA has no such limit , and GE OCTKD is part of the annual limit, while AIA OCTKD is on top of the annual limit, I suppose AIA premium is higher, assuming the same insured amount for both insurance companies?Except 1. GE's base plan has a lifetime limit, which is 10 times the base plan's annual limit. 2. AIA's Outpatient Cancer Treatment & Kidney Dialysis (OCTKD) is on top of the annual limit; while GE's OCTKD is included in the annual limit. Either one you choose also pay in ringgit. The same limitations set by BNM applies. A good product is a good product, anyone will tell you they are good products. The only difference is really the agents making the difference on how much to buy, how you buy it. Because ultimately insurance company only pay. And they pay the same doctors in the same hospitals, giving you the same procedures with the same equipment. The healthcare providers are the hospitals, at when things get complicated, the servicing agents that make the difference in the whole experience. So as long as you have a medical/hospital insurance coverage that is relevant to the costs today and from here moving forward, coming from whichever company it really doesn't matter. What matters is the agent. There are fee-based financial planners. There are commission agents like me. There are new agents join to test water wan. There are agents who will tell you "Mr. So&so, we can sign on the bed also" <--- this kind also have There are also agents who doesn't really know what they are selling wan. Like the society - macam-macam ada. |
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Oct 23 2015, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Oct 23 2015, 01:42 PM) Certainly, everything come with a cost. Separated from the annual limit is better, right?Most importantly, get the best plan while we still healthy and strong, not regret when during claim and not enough Medical claim limit. Allianz now with No Overall Lifetime limit and over RM1mil of annual limit plus cover for second medical opinion. Most Importantly the Outpatient Cancer Treatment & Kidney Dialysis (OCTKD) are together with the annual limit not separated as AIA. |
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Oct 24 2015, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Oct 23 2015, 11:05 PM) If OCTKD are separate with no lifetime limit, then will be great. Allianz octkd has no lifetime limit and share the annual limit with the medical plan, are guaranteed renewal?But sorry to tell, AIA OCTKD will have lifetime limit. Mean if a person have finish the OCTKD lifetime limit, he have to bear all the remaining cost related to OCTKD. With current Malaysia inflation rate, who know RM100k medical cost may become RM1mil after 20-30 years (I hope it never happen as well). And that time when we need them most and not enough. Worst if the medical plan are not guaranteed renewal, then he/she will really in deep trouble when company decide to terminate/revised them. |
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Oct 24 2015, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Woon Ann @ Oct 23 2015, 12:28 PM) Actually GE now has the no lifetime limit, which mean is unlimited. Every year will renew your limit. That's so far I know about it. GE no lifetime limit is new? It seems not well coomunicated to all. Is GE octkd annual limit shared with the medical plan?I'm not sure with AIA, but with the background of GE, I think I trusted GE more since its part of OCBC. I'm a GE Agent btw. Gentle reminder, do ask for the proper quotation from the agent and study it. Don't believe what they show you as they only show you what they want you to know. Sorry if any GE out there but always remember customer is our top priority |
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Oct 24 2015, 04:17 PM
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Oct 24 2015, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Oct 24 2015, 05:31 PM) In fact, GE is the first company launched high annual limit extender with unlimited lifetime limit Is GE OCTKD limit fixed or can be pre-defined by insured or insurer? Also does GE medical plan is of investment linked type or available for standalone too?GE OCTKD is within the annual limit. When ones medical card OCTKD is separated from annual limit, it's actually called inner limit, inner limit is actually a limit within a limit. Not many company are having inner limit in their medical card, you may refer to the below definition or you google up inner limit. http://www.answers.com/Q/What_does_inner_l...insurance_means |
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Oct 25 2015, 01:32 PM
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Referring to earlier post, one of the forumer stated no PM allowed:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3050583/+2100# |
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Oct 31 2015, 09:20 PM
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Why there are not many standalone medical plan, without co-insure, offered by insurance companies with high annual limit (close to Rm1 mil) & unlimited life limit?
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Nov 1 2015, 09:11 AM
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Nov 1 2015, 12:15 PM
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Nov 2 2015, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(victor_tan79 @ Nov 2 2015, 06:18 PM) Ooops . . Guess u left the market long time . . Ur guess is wrong. Have just checked with most of the majors recently. If you know others have such offer, please share product and company nameBasically all well known insurance companies has it ady . . Its only a matter of how much it costs . . |
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Nov 2 2015, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(victor_tan79 @ Nov 2 2015, 08:54 PM) Please try Allianz , Great Eastern , Prudential , Gilbratar BSN ( Former Uni.Asia Life ) . . Yes, have enquired recently, for high annual limit and no life limit, and no co insure, mostly ILP linked.All can be seen at their co website . . If not , u can get the brochures with details from their customer service |
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Nov 2 2015, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(yw46 @ Nov 1 2015, 10:13 AM) Investment linked products will produce higher IRR for the insurance companies due to lower required capital (consumers bear investment risk and lower risk to insurers). How does Investment link plan return compared to say direct investment to unit trust ? Would the differential premium from standalone plan to ILP generate better return in unit trust ?Besides, one will need a basic life plan in order to have a medical card rider. The insurers can then cross selling additional riders such as PA, CI, payor, waiver, saving plan etc. |
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Dec 22 2015, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(Plastic Paper @ Dec 20 2015, 10:54 PM) my GE Smart Medic Xtra + Smart Extender do not have lifetime limit. So GE has better coverage for out patient kidney and cancer treatment ?Life insurance and TPD basic sum assured increase 1% every year. So do the annual limit for medical card also increase 10% every three years I choose GE mainly because of the outpatient kidney dialysis and outpatient cancer treatment is "as charged", follow the annual limit of RM1,320,000 of the medical card while other company has lifetime limit on these two treatment. |
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