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 Insurance Talk V2, Anything and everything about insurance

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cybpsych
post Jun 3 2014, 04:28 PM

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got into a discussion with a friend, working for Prudential. he offerred me a PRUlink One plan with the following:

RM1,000/mth premium

PRUlink One (64yrs) + Crisis Shield (64yrs) + PRUacci Guard (34yrs)

RM500k coverage for life, TPD, 36CI, and Accidental Death (not sure if each 500K or combination of all)

Medical card
- PRUacci Med (34yrs) + PRUflexi Med (34yrs) + PRUmed (34yrs) + Enhanced PRUpayor Basic

RM2mil lifetime limit, RM100k annual limit
R&B: RM300/day, Zero Deductible
Hospital/ICU allowance: RM100/200 per day
PRUacci Med: assured RM2k
PRUmed: 2 units
Enhanced PRUpayor Basic: RM12k per annum

premium waiver: RM700 upon TPD or 36CI


am wondering if the coverage is good as well as the RM1k/mth preium is justifiable for the amount of coverage.

thanks al!
cybpsych
post Jun 3 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Jun 3 2014, 04:52 PM)
Seem like your friend just dump in everything what Prudential offering till the premium cost Rm1k/month

But of cause it depends your current age, occupation and smoker?

Everything is good to have it, but are you sure you need everything in the plan? Guess this is the thing you need to study and consider.

I will suggest you put a portion of it to saving/retire plan then everything into insurance.
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thanks for the feedback.

I'm a Class 1, never smoke biggrin.gif

yeah, seems like one big lump sum coverage. fyi, my existing insurance coverage is low, and i am also looking for better coverage as well.

RM1k/mth is a bit steep for just insurance alone. This is ILP but i'm looking for protection coverage (investment portion is just a bonus for me).

separately, i asked him to quote me RM500/mth premium. it came out to just RM200k life coverage. the rest of medical is almost on par albeit lesser limit (RM1.6mil lifetime, RM80k annual).

This post has been edited by cybpsych: Jun 3 2014, 05:03 PM
cybpsych
post Jun 4 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ChrisGood @ Jun 4 2014, 08:44 AM)
*Btw I feel his premium was high- but premium is calculated by a system. So what you put in, what you get. There is no cheating there. Maybe the agent can show him with his laptop how the premium came up to rm1k and what are the costs of benefits. I do this with my clients. sad.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 4 2014, 11:23 AM)
1K per month...

I think it is the affordability issue first for most middle class out there.
1K per month is a big commitment for 34 years.

12k x 34 years = RM408K commitment just for insurance.

I think the first issue, it is a need to have such coverage with such premium in the first place, before venture into how well the coverage issue.
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thanks guys.

affordability is one can of worm considering i need to commit for 30+ years (assuming i live long enough till it matures) sweat.gif

another view is that commitment ties to the coverage offerred. as ChrisGood stated above, system generated the premium based on my current age and classification.

I do get the Sales Illustration copy of the breakdown of premium vs assured value. RM7xx on the life portion (Basic Unit), RM2xx on the medical portion (Protection Unit).

The question of premium vs converage rose as I presume my medical need is very much needed (high frequency visits when one falls ill or sickness or surgeries) than the Life (1 time deal if I meet my maker)

I'll workaround the priority (life vs medical) and compare some offers (coverage) vs affordability (premium) as well thumbup.gif

cheers!
cybpsych
post Jun 4 2014, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(zest168 @ Jun 4 2014, 11:50 AM)
If I were you, I am OK with PRUlink One + Crisis Shield and PRUacci Guard, but check to see if the Crisis Shield accelerates the PRUlink One sum assured upon claim. If it does, then upon claiming any of the 36Critical illness, the PRUlink sum assured will be reduced by the amount paid under the Crisis Shield i.e., RM500K - RM500K = 0. If Crisis Shield does not accelerate the PRUlink sum assured upon claiming, then it is OK.

Otherwise, you have two options, (1) Buy a Critical Illness plan that does not accelerate the PRUlink sum assured upon claim, this will be more expensive in premium or, (2) Depending on how much you need upon claiming the 36 critical illness, and how much you want to leave behind upon death. If you want to leave behind say, RM200K upon death and claim RM 300K upon diagnosis of any of the 36 Critical Illnesses, then your PRUlink Sum assured can be RM 500K, while the Crisis Shield sum assured be RM 300K, this way premium is cheaper.

If I were you, PRUacci Med and PRUmed are really nice to have. What you need is a good overall medical card covering hospital admissions and surgeries due to both illness and accident up to age 85 or 100. Kiasu people like me bought one upto 100 years old, hahaha. 70 years old (or young) is really too early to terminate a medical plan and at that age you may no longer be eligible to buy another medical plan. So buy it when young.

Enhance PruPayor Basic and premium Waiver the premiums should not be too expensive, I will include them because upon diagnosis of 36 Critical illness or becoming TPD, the premiums for the policy will be paid by the company into your account, and these premiums can be used for purchasing the units for investment purpose after the sum assured for CI or TPD been paid to you.

Hope this helps. At the end of the day with the escalating cost of medical fees, we need to cover ourselves well with a good life and health insurance plan. Happy buying!
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in my rough quote from my friend-agent, PRUlink One @ RM500k + Crisis Shield @ RM500k + PRUacci Guard @ RM500k + Accidental Death @ RM500k. Each with individual assured value, so my earlier assumption is RM500k each coverage type.

I'll need to dissect each portion to get more detailed clarification from the agent smile.gif

lowest premium that I requested to quote was RM500/mth. Assured value all reduced to RM200k. The rest of the medical coverage is comparable, just slightly lower limit.

with this, i might want to extend the medical up to 80 or 90 years instead sweat.gif

thanks!
cybpsych
post Jun 4 2014, 02:16 PM

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ChrisGoodcherroy, thanks guys, i roughly know where to begin now wink.gif

much appreciate the responses! notworthy.gif

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