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 Insurance Talk V2, Anything and everything about insurance

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post Apr 14 2014, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Apr 14 2014, 05:21 PM)
Yes it depends on age, gender & occupation to get a precise amount.

To be very generally RM1mil Life/TBD insure (just for reference, please ask for actual quote)
age 20-30 RM5,000 annually
age 31-40 RM7,000 annually
age 41-50 RM12,000 annually

Thinking of getting RM1mil protection to settle debt or business successor plan or family & children future plan? thumbup.gif
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Wow... insured 1 million... hmm.gif how many percent of our income should one insured?
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post Apr 15 2014, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Apr 14 2014, 10:07 PM)
Please don't be surprise. As these RM1mil Life/TPD protection mostly use for trust, debt settlement, successor plan, Business contingency plan, family planning & etc.

How many percent really depends on individual (a businessman, company key personnel & etc). Of coz a fresh grad or who just started their career life wouldn't need a RM1mil Life/TPD insured. They will rather need a RM1mil medical plan, in order not to jeopardize his/her family in financial. As RM1mil medical plan for below 30's are as low as RM200 monthly.
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Oh... hmm.gif I thought there is rule of thumb to insured about 5~10% of one income to insurance...
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post Dec 4 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(maxwelx64 @ Dec 4 2014, 01:10 PM)
Hello all sifu, I'm really need advice from you all...
I'm 27 yrs old, income ~RM2.8K, non smoker...
About last week I had signed for a SmartProtect Essential Insurance 2 with monthly premium of RM300...

lump sum death and tpd = 360K
U100 IL Critical Illness Benefit Rider (IL CIBR) = 360K
U119 SmartMedic Xtra (SMX150) = 150 (room) + 90K (annual) + 900K (lifetime)
U75 IL Hospitalisation Benefits Rider (IL HB) = 50 per day
U102 IL Premium Waiver Extra Rider (IL PWE)
U133 Smart Extender (SE90K) = 900K (annual) + unlimited (life time)

My questions:
1. Is that the premium too much for my income?
2. If there is too much, any suggestion on the change of the plan? My 1st concern is medical card, follow by CI and lastly death and tpd...
3. Can I change/cancel the insurance now as I ady signed the insurance for 1 week++??

1 of my fren said the room and board RM150 is far not enough me...  doh.gif
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In my opinion, I think you try to cover too many items.
I think that setting about 10% for insurance is OK, yours might be slightly a bit too much.

For the time being as you are young and have I assume no dependent, why buy 360k life insurance... that is really a bit too much. Remember that that money is leave to your love ones depending on you your beneficiary

As for the Critical Illness, Hospitalisation Benefits and Premium Waiver.... all this rider take up money, based on your need, it is better to reconsider and cancel. RM150 for Room and board may not be enough if you want single room but generally if one is hospitalize, a four bed room or a single unit room is all the same. Besides, even if it exceed, just pay the difference lo, the more important coverage is the 900k annual limit to cover for accident.

When your income increase, and your needs changes, then come back and re-evaluate your coverage and riders.
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post Dec 4 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(maxwelx64 @ Dec 4 2014, 02:12 PM)
Seem like my insurance is very unbalance...
After I read your opinion, I think that I should adjust my premium to RM200 - 250 and
1. death and tpd = 0~120K (considering I have car loan and ptptn loan)
2. CI = 120K~240K
3. medical remain same

however, the GE Smart Medic Xtra (SMX) and Smart Extender (SE) got 1 problem is I cannot top up my room and board SMX without affected SE...
For example I take SMX200 (Room = 200), then I cannot get SE90K but need to change to SE100K, which may increase the insurance charge..
That's the reason that agent add a Hospitalisation Benefits Rider to cover this issue...
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Actually the topup on room and board means topped up from you own pocket. Not topup to get a better plan biggrin.gif
Hospitalization Benefits Rider is not useful unless you really live day by day without any saving and you have kid that need the money when you are hospitalize and not working...

Getting RM50 /RM100 when you are hospitalize.... you seriously want to "earn" such money and pay much premium shocking.gif
Again, always consider if this and that happen, do you have enough to cover, if need to topup, is it in your comfort zone? Purchase insurance to cover emergency (example, surgery, tumour, accident) not to cover those menial cuts and bruise and get back money.
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post Dec 4 2014, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(maxwelx64 @ Dec 4 2014, 03:05 PM)
I see... Totally agree regarding the hospitalisation benefit..
However, top up the medical card not only room and board, but also increase lifetime limit, which is more beneficial for me...
I will cut this down too..
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Actually it all boils down to you or your dependent needs and your budget. As money is always the constraint, we want to cover as much as possible within our budget. So topup medical card is feasible but currently may not be within your budget, you can always review/change your plan along the way, as a matter of fact, one should review their insurance very few years, to check if the coverage is still in line with your life style and product being offered. Your units in the insurance can always be manipulate by yourself to achieve your life goal, remember that

Example: 5 years ago medical card only offers lifetime limit of 40k with a premium of RM150, but look at the products offer now, 40k lifetime limit is a joke. So if one review its medical card, he can change the units to be upgraded into the new plan accordingly or in worst case scenario, sell the units and buy new plan.

The correct thinking is not to buy an expensive house and live forever in it, but buy a suitable one, live in it, and upgrade based on your needs and budget when the time is right.

Oh.. and one more reminder, the premium all those insurance agents quote, in most of the time not able to cover you till the intended ages. The agents can only generate 20 or 30 years of prediction anyhow. So if you know how the ILP products works, you may need to topup from time to time and always check the units available in your account every few years and tally with their insurance charges to see if the projection is in line. You don't want a rude shock one day in your 60's to find out that your medical card lapse because no more money in the account despite coverage is till 80 years old... tongue.gif

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post Dec 5 2014, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(QQHTJ @ Dec 5 2014, 12:42 AM)
Hi sifus,
My father possess few insurance and not sure with the policies and what is the consequent after termination.
Where should i seek for help?
And what is the consequent after terminate before due date. Will it lost ?
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There is a few way to terminate, for ILP product, you may even get back some return on your premiums.
The other way is that you just left it idle and it will eventually lapse
Last, the insurance reach maturity and you get back part of your cash value but it is unlikely.

The main consequences is that you dad are NO longer insured once a policies terminated.
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QUOTE(Vinic Yap @ Aug 5 2015, 12:55 AM)
Hi expro,

Has go through some comments and notice that you might be in insurance line. If you get help me on this, i thought want to get my parents a life insurance. Age 55-60. Assume that in middle 58, female. How much would the premium to be paid at yearly? If need more info i could provide, as im not familiar what its needed.

Just to get rough idea before i going further, then only to look for the right plans and person.

Thank you.
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At this age group, insurance will not be cheap. It also depends on the riders you choose, Duration of the insurance... till 80, till 90... The premium increase exponentially especially in the late 60 till end...

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