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lifebalance
post Oct 12 2015, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(epie @ Oct 12 2015, 12:08 AM)
thanks for the info bro
i also wonder...if my agent give me false info about the waiting period for upgrading
it doesn't make sense actually

any prubsn agent can verify this?
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Best to read the contract or the T&C under PruBSN. I doubt the agent gave false information, probably not experienced or didn't understand his company own product. Better get the agent to read up on his product and get back to you.
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post Dec 17 2015, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Dec 17 2015, 03:09 PM)
Alright, here the deal.

I have an insurance policy years ago. Been diligently paying, except that I have lapsed payment for months. Did not apply for 'holiday' (or what ever it is that they termed it).

Intended to surrender the policy, as it no longer fit my requirements.

My query is, how much money will I get back?

Will the insurance return what ever it is in my policy, or will the insurance deduct the months that I have not paid, before returning any balance available ?
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Most probably your cash value had been eaten up if the policy is less than 3 years old.

If you would like to continue your policy you will need to pay up the premium you didn't pay previously and let it br reinstated but it will be pending approval on any change in health condition.

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post Dec 17 2015, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Nov 20 2015, 05:06 PM)
Question: If i pay half yearly for GE ILP Medical plan, when can i get the statement for income tax purpose? Next year?

EDIT: Why i ask? Because i want to know the actual amount for tax relief.
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Medical card tax relief is rm3000 yearly depending on your proportion for life and medical.
For life and epf max is rm6000 yearly
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post Dec 18 2015, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(Superkian @ Dec 17 2015, 11:51 PM)
let said i wan to buy SPE plan, is there any different amount of money if walk in to the insurance company or through agent?
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Walk in to company and they will refer you to agent.

You can't buy a life insurance plan through direct unless mentioned otherwise. E.g uforlife

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post Dec 19 2015, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(baymax7 @ Dec 17 2015, 10:42 PM)
Outpatient Cancer Treatment       
Outpatient Kidney Dialysis Treatment

PRUValue Med
As Charged (Up to 1.5 times of the chosen Med Value Point per lifetime. MVP option 1.0/1.5/2.0 Million)

Great Eastern Smart Extender
As Charged (No mention of per lifetime)

AIA A-Plus MedBooster
RM750,000 (Plan 150: Lifetime limit of RM250,000 from A-Plus Med + RM500,000 from A-Plus MedBooster)

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Hope insurance sifu here can help to answer some of my questions below:

1. Is there a per lifetime limit for Smart Extender for Outpatient Cancer/Kidney treatment?
2. If there no per lifetime limit for Smart Extender, does the limit follow the Annual Limit and resets at each policy year?
3. It seems like, AIA A-Plus MedBooster Outpatient Cancer/Kidney treatment is less attractive compared to Prudential and GE. Is my observation correct?
Thanks for the help.
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Any company benefit differs a little here and there. Find one a proper agent to advise you instead of basing on a product. If any one of the company offer better medical card in the future. Would you want to cancel that card and switch to another just because of better benefit ?

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post Dec 20 2015, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(larisSa @ Dec 20 2015, 05:37 PM)
what about ILP?
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ILP has a portion divided to medical and life. The annual statement from your insurance company will state how much went to medical and life portion.
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post Dec 27 2015, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(jasonhue @ Dec 26 2015, 10:36 PM)
hi, i looking for life Rm 300K and CI Rm 300K .

I prefer level term insurance where the insurance charges is guaranteed and will not increase by age.

For both event of CI and TPD/Death - total paid is RM600K. with waiver for CI.

quote me age cover till 65 and 70. thx.

i open for any insurance company.
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Will not increase with age? I'm sorry to say but Insurance charge will increase accordingly to your age as your risk increases based on your age.
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post Dec 28 2015, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(baymax7 @ Dec 28 2015, 12:53 AM)
Dear insurance sifu,

My family is buying insurance for my mom.
Age 69. Non-smoker. Healthy.

At first, AIA agent quoted us RM6552 per annum.
Plan: ILP, A-Plus Med, Sum assured RM18k, R&B RM100, Cover till age 100

Later, when we agreed to proceed with the application, the agent told us there is changes to the premium. New premium, RM6996 per annum.
Plan: ILP, A-Plus Med, Sum assured RM6k, R&B RM100, Cover till age 100

Increase of RM444 on the premium and the sum assured becomes lower by RM12k.

I asked the agent why the increase in the premium and lower sum assured. The reason given is, for the 1st quotation the premium is until 80 y/o. After that, the premium will increase sharply for age 81 onwards. The 2nd quotation premium will remain the same until 100 y/o (understand that premium might increase slightly in the future due to inflation but we will omit this to simplify the matter).

1. Is this true? Can the premium in quotation be adjusted for until 80 y/o and increase sharply after that?

2. A-Plus Med brochure shows coverage is until age 100. Therefore, I assume this should imply that premium quoted is for until age 100 and will remain the same throughout the policy duration (minus inflation).

Appreciate your kind advice on this.
Thanks.
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Hi,

1. Yes, cost of insurance will sharply increase from 81 to 100

2. Premium will be the same as per quote

Better decide fast as your last entry age is approaching.
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post Dec 28 2015, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(jasonhue @ Dec 28 2015, 08:22 AM)
My purpose for buying this life and CI is for protection only, i no mean to pass huge amount of money to my child.
I just want to protect my family before i retire if anything happen to me, there is a cover from insurance.
I only want cover until age 60/65.

My main concern is for ILP premium in later year is not guaranty the same but i think term insurance ( level term) does.
I want something can predict, I suppose for term insurance ( level term ) premium for age 32 let said around Rm 300 and premium for age 60 still Rm 300. The calculation base on pro rate. I know cost of insurance will increase. but atleast at age 60 i can confirm the premium still around Rm 300.

but for ILP, the charge of insurance in later years if higher than premium will deduct from cash bonus which is generated from investment. if the investment is not good, then need to top up the balance. this 1 cannot confirm.

personally prefer term insurance for life and CI since i just want to cover until retire age.

Most important i buy for protection only i dont mind in the end of policy i get nothing (no cash bonus ).
If i want cash bonus i rather put my money in stock for hedging.

maybe i'm wrong for above statement, you may correct me. this is what i understand so far.
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I believe the quote given to you has met your need.

As I mention that ILP premium are guaranteed. As long as you pay for the premium.
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post Dec 28 2015, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 28 2015, 02:26 PM)
This is an incomplete statement, and some may not misunderstand it.

For those who are not well versed with ILP, below statement should be added to them.
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I believe the question came with the answer that he had answer himself and the questioner is merely seeking for reassurance. Thus the answer was given for reassurance. However as you've pointed out to the obvious answer back to the questioner. To conclude that someone is being incompetent is uncalled for without fully analysing the question being asked. Moreover as a moderator.
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post Dec 28 2015, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(baymax7 @ Dec 28 2015, 03:42 PM)
Hi lifebalance,

Thanks for helping with my question.

A-Plus Med (ILP) quotation can be customized to show premium until age 80 only and increase sharply after that (1st quotation) Shouldn't the premium be the same until age 100?

Appreciate your advice on this.
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Actually, I just did the quote and it's advisable to go with standalone medical card as the overall cost is lower long term until she's 100. I am also taking into the consideration that what if she doesn't live to 100. Going ILP will be very expensive ... Almost 1.5x cost, you may pm me your detail and I'll send you the difference

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post Dec 28 2015, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(novblaze @ Dec 28 2015, 05:54 PM)
So means that the best medical card currently will be Allianz instead of GE or others right? With very high Overall Annual Limit and NO Overall Lifetime Limit?
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Not necessary, most of the insurance company in the market have high annual limits with no lifetime limit now to keep up with the market demand.

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