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post Nov 28 2013, 03:29 PM, updated 9y ago

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Hi. A month ago, my piles flares and subsided after given daflon but it left a piece of skin there. Then this month I started to have constipation again despite eating plenty fruits and vege, so I tried probiotic and got bowel movement again - very nice everyday. Then on 3rd day the hemorrhoid flares again, this time not too swollen but I got sore pain and terrible itch in anus. Went to kpj to see if they will remove the pile but they said it s very small only and its not bleeding. I was given medication and fibers. The piles/skin tag is small most of the time but the itch and soreness especially after bowel movement and at night is terrible. It will swell after I went to toilet, whenever I squat down and when I walk a lot, sometimes have wetness on it. 2 weeks have pass and I have been on vege, rice and fruits diet, but the condition still the same. Are there any good colorectal in klang valley area to recommend? I had been to kpj 3 times seeing a general surgeon, so I am thinking to see colorectal specialist.
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post Nov 28 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(momusu @ Nov 28 2013, 07:40 PM)
do you 'push' or not when defecating?
normally i'd just let it flow with minimal 'push.'
and dont squat for the time being.
i kept taking daflon for a few months, even though hospital only gave enough for 3 weeks.

hospital will only take action if ur butt bleeds. i've been there.
i went to hukm though, private hospitals are too expensive for me, many2 years back.
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No, I didn't push it. Since I went to KPJ 2 weeks ago, I have been faithfully taking the psyllium husk fiber they prescribed. I have bowel movement everyday since then (I used to be able to have bowel movement after 4 or 5 days). I even googled for the correct way to bowel movement - suck in breath, hold it and let it come out by itself. Still that piece of piles still comes out, slightly swelling and very sore. After washing, it popped back 'inside' but carry with it the terrible itch. The itch is no joke, so terrible that (sorry for the graphic) that all I wanted to do it stick my finger inside and scratch it! I have been sleeping in sitting position for days because sitting position seemed to help with the itch a little.

At first, I was put on Daflon 6 pills per day, until the 5th day, I got hives all over my body probably because of allergy. I stopped taking it now cause even when I take it, the itch is still there. Oral steroid and anti histamine doesn't help too.

On the other hand, the stool seemed to contain lots of undigested food, very wet and 'burn' my anus even though I am not eating spicy food.

QUOTE(Tham @ Nov 28 2013, 08:32 PM)
Are they sure it is just a skin tag ?

It may be an external pile. That's what I have now, after surgery to remove
some pretty huge internal hemorrhoids in 2003.

An experienced and reputable colorectal surgeon is Dr Akhtar Qureshi in
Sunway Medical Center.
It's confirmed a hemorrhoid. Problem is it flares, pains and itch but will not be swollen enough for the surgeon to help me remove it. Worse, it always went 'inside' whenever they checked me. The surgeon at KPJ and the GP I went, both said it's because my skin near the anus is too dry. But I have took all the precaution not to irritate the skin - no scrubbing, no toilet paper, just wash with flowing water, sitz bath, wear cotton pants but still the itch is there. I woke up once or twice at night just to sit in the sitz bath to ease the itch.

Dr Akhtar Qureshi is good? I see his schedule in Sunway Medical site and he's available tomorrow. Maybe I'll go to him tomorrow. I just hope he's willing to do something about that hide-and-seek piles.

Seriously, I am considering to just gulp down chillies and hot stuffs to make it swell and bleeding so they will cut it off rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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post Nov 29 2013, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Nov 28 2013, 10:40 PM)
Hemorrhoids will tend to itch sometimes, even mine.

You also probably have some mild eczema there.

Yours prolapses, then goes back in spontaneously, so you probably
just have second degree internal hemorrhoids, quite mild.

If you see Akthar Qureshi, he will probably just give you Xyloproct
or Proctosedyl cream, something you can buy yourself anywhere.

These contains some mild steroid like hydrocortisone to reduce the
inflammation and itch, plus aesculin (from horse chestnut) to improve
the venous blood flow there a bit, and thus shrink it a litle.

Otherwise, go down to TM Shafi, a small homeopathic shop at the
row of shophouses opposite YMCA in Brickfields. They have homeopathic
pile creams which are usually quite moisturising, so may reduce the
dry skin and itch.
Another time and tested remedy is salt, i.e. sitz baths. Buy Cosway's
Zara Dead Sea Salts, blue in color. Sprinkle say two tablespoonsfuls in
a small tub which just about fits your toilet bowl,  add in fairly hot water,
then sit there for at least 15 minutes.

I am sure that will relieve the itch and pain somewhat.

That was what I did way back in December 2003, when, coming home
after the surgery (stapled plus diathermy), I was in really bad pain.

So my sister came over, prepared the above sitz bath, and luckily the
pain subsided after that.

If you can't get the salt, ordinary table salt, or those cheap rock sea salts
from the supermarket will do.

Dr Anantha also advised my father to do that after he had removed his
piles many years ago. Surprisingly, my father said he had hardly any pain
from the surgery, while mine, like many others, was like the end of the world.

I think those brownish colored Himalaya rock salts are also suitable.
My elder brother had an acute attack too not too long ago, after I thought
all the while that he was one of the lucky ones with no hemorrhoids.

He surfed the net, then made an ice pack and placed it there.

Also bought Daflon, took a loading dosage of 6 tabs the first day, then 4
the next two days, then 2 daily.

It subsided.
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Thanks for the info you gave.I did sitz bath every day with rock salt, it did took away the itch but not for long.

I had tried Protosedyl for 2 weeks now, sometimes it works a little, sometimes sting my skin. I really hope the doctor won't be giving me anymore medication, cause they just slighly easen the itch, not cut off the problem.

Now thinking back, is it possible that the itch reaction on my pile is triggered by probiotic I first took before the pile flares up? Also I noticed the itch has worsen today after I ate a spoonful of plain yogurt. Possible?

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post Nov 29 2013, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Nov 29 2013, 03:09 AM)
Yes, it's quite possible.

Probiotics are after all bacteria, and just like antibiotics,
can trigger off allergies or other reactions in some people.

Just stop them for a couple of weeks and see how it goes.

Even fiber doesn't agree with me very well. If I take Metamucil,
I will get cramps the whole night long.
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Finally someone agrees with me that probiotics can trigger adverse reaction. I have been searching long for connection between itchy anus and probiotic but nothing come out. Only today I tried the keyword allergy and probiotics and now it seemed clear. It does trigger itchy skin and hives, just too bad of all the places to itch, it has to be that part. sad.gif

I didn't ended up going to Sunway because of the price, but went to Tung Shin. I was asked to lie sideway and tried to push out the piles. It was diagnosed as almost level 3. Unlike previous surgeon, he recommend removing it if it's hindering my daily activity, so I agreed. Will be doing both colonoscopy (to see any underlying answer to why I can't get normal bowel movement) and surgery on Monday. Somehow, I feel very gan cheong now. unsure.gif unsure.gif
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post Nov 29 2013, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Nov 29 2013, 04:30 PM)
So which surgeon did you see there ?

Was it Lim Chwen Loong or Muthu ?

Did you ask him which device he is going to use ?
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I see Dr Lim. He showed me a diagram of the process. Something like this but I cannot be sure.

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I'm so sorry, I woke up early in the morning, not enough sleep, straight away went to hospital, happy that he's going to operate it and totally forgot the instruments you recommended to me. doh.gif doh.gif

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post Nov 30 2013, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Nov 30 2013, 12:39 AM)
Staple method.

If he does a good job, then good. If not, you'll have problems - bleeding,
intense pain, stenosis (narrowing of your anus).

The staple is made by Johnson & Johnson ...... in Mexico.

Looks very flimsy, plastic, like a kid's toy ray gun.

Costs at least ...... $1,000.

You should have asked for the harmonic scalpel, Starion or Ligasure,
but anyway, it's already scheduled.

How much is he charging you ?
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I'll call back the doctor's assistant tml to ask what's the method because after looking at the video you gave it looked la bit like HAL pulak. I do remember him mention the surgery takes 20 minutes only.

As for charges, I did not ask, going to let my company insurance settle it and have taken the letter of guarantee.

One thing though, is there anything I should do after the surgery to speed up the healing. My mum told me to drink pati ikan haruan, or eat the fish for faster healing of the wound but I'm skeptical since a lot of food seemed to trigger my itchy anus recently.

Another colleague who had surgery to remove a few 3 and 4 degree piles 2 years ago, swears applying Gamogen/minyak gamat to that wound speed up her recovery.

After reading more info, a lot of people introduce sitz bath. I am thinking to buy a proper sitz bath (currently using pail and sea salt) and Epsom salt. Is Epsom salt better than rock salt. I know they're different properties and there's mixed review for both. Or the Cosway one is better?

As for the probiotic reaction, I had stop it the moment the symptom appears, it's been more than 2 weeks now but do you think it still need more time to clear the allergy symptom?

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post Nov 30 2013, 01:02 PM

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Shit! I called back and they said it's stapler method. Tham, the staple method you had previously is in 2003, right? What are the complications you have after that, other than the pain? Relapse?

Andrekua, how's your uncle now?

Abubin, will let you know when I see the bill. For now, I don't bother. I just let my company insurance settles money matter and I'm now worried about the procedure only.
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I think I will try to seek if any restaurant in my area has Sang Yue dish. I don't think I can cook for the time being and my family is in Johor. sad.gif

QUOTE(Tham @ Nov 30 2013, 01:31 PM)
Intense pain and heavy bleeding the first night. The pethidine injection
lasted me only an hour. Had to bear with the pain the rest of the night.

I had stenosis for the first two months. The stools which came out
were pencil-thin.

I also had fecal impaction twice the first two months. Had to dig it out
with my fingers.
Luckily, improved by the third month.

The surgeon was probably not too skilled nor experienced enough in
the use of the staple.
The staple also has a high rate of relapse.

Within two years, an external hemorrhoid came back.
But is Dr Lim is skilled in this method, you should have no problems,
reduced pain and faster recovery, I guess.
Reinterventions for specific technique-related complications of
stapled haemorrhoidopexy (SH): a critical appraisal.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18766410/
Stapled hemorrhoidopexy is associated with a higher long-term
recurrence rate of internal hemorrhoids compared with conventional
excisional hemorrhoid surgery.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17665254/
Obstructed defecation after stapled hemorrhoidopexy: a report of four cases.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20583519/?
Agraffectomy after low rectal stapling procedures for hemorrhoids and rectocele.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21695440
Obliteration of the rectal lumen after stapled hemorrhoidopexy: report of a case.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18670815/
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Fecal impaction. I had that before when I have to dig, a very bad experience. Will pharmacy bought enema help?
Did you change the diet after that, or the relapse still happens after the change of diet?


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post Dec 3 2013, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Nov 30 2013, 10:14 PM)
Maybe you can try this.
http://www.rakuten.com.my/shop/caringpharm...HF0005_0191081/
Enemas may help, or maybe Dulcolax (bisacodyl), but if the impaction
is really bad with the stools already hard, that won't work.

This is why doctors have to do it for patients who come in with fecal impaction
- if the stools are way too far in the rectal area, obviously you can't dig it out
yourself.

Dr Anantha in Sentosa says he has to do it such patients who pay him an
emergency visit sometimes, even young people.

I didn't really change my diet, but as it is, everyone tends to get hemorrhoids.
I can't really tolerate fiber anyway, as I have IBS.

Stresses in life, including lack of sleep, can also cause or aggravate them.
The Chinese believe that lack of sleep (as in my case too) causes heatiness
to form in the liver ( ''kah foh'').

Lack of sleep can also result in a low ''Chi'' (life force), so your anus will
tend to drop out.
The staple method doesn't really cut away the hemorrhoids, rather it retracts
them further up the rectum, so that would explain the high relapse rate.

How is it that you never even asked what device he is going to use when
he examined you and advised surgery during the whole consultation, after
I had given you all that info ?

Akhtar Qureshi uses the harmonic scalpel, and I think he also has Starion
and/or Ligasure. That was why I advised you to go to him. He also uses the
staple, but he said he is very selective, due to the high relapse rate and risk
of complications.

Otherwise, Samuel Tay in Sunway also has Ligasure, as mentioned earlier.
I enquired from the Ligasure distributors here some years ago, and they
mentioned that he was one of the doctors with this device.

I did not select Anantha at that time, even though he did an almost painless
job on my father with diathermy alone, because he did not use the staple,
which I thought was the ''in thing'' at that time. Sentosa was poorly equipped
too then, with no harmonic scalpel. They probably have now, as well as the
other devices.
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Hi, I've just go discharge from hospital. All fees including gastroscopy, colonscopy and the surgery is around 1,500. My insurance pays 1,400 something, I paid 70 because I upgrade to single room plus other things. I stayed in the hospital for one night. They almost tahan me for another night because I was having slight fever.

For now the pain is still endurable but I have not bowel movement yet, so maybe will be worse later.

Dr Samuel Tay is actually my first choice, but he's on leave for 2 weeks. And I'm afraid Akhtar Qureshi will probably put me on medication too, so I decided to go to Tungshin. At least if I was put on medication again, it wouldn't be too expensive. Last time I went to Sunway (for other illness) my outpatient bill was 400 something. Also, I had spent almost 600 in the past week in and out KPJ. I'm broke now.

Tham, the stapler used on me is worse than yours - Made in China. As you said "The staple method doesn't really cut away the hemorrhoids, rather it retracts them further up the rectum, so that would explain the high relapse rate." But Dr Lim did cut away the hemorrhoid. They showed me the sample after the surgery. Quite big, the lump.

My colonscopy and gastroscopy found some burnt marks due to my previous gastric problem. The anesthesia brings the worse effect on me. I could not eat or drink for the whole day on yesterday. Very dizzy and puke out everything they gave me to eat. Can't even handle plain water.

The hospital staffs are all very professional and caring, so I have no complain. Let's hope my bowel movement will be not too painful. I am very afraid now... sad.gif sad.gif

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post Dec 3 2013, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Dec 3 2013, 08:48 PM)
It's good to know you had no major problems throughout and after the
surgery, that means Dr Lim did a professional job.

Are you sure it's $ 1,500 or $ 5,500 ?!?!

Colonoscopy, gastroscopy and stapled hemorrhoidectomy for just $ 1,500
in total, plus rental of the operating theater, anesthesiologist's fees, room,
supplies, medication and nursing ?!?!

A gastroscope alone these days, even in Tung Shin, should be easily $ 1,000 !

And as I said, do you know how much the stupid staple gun alone costs,
when I was quoted exactly 10 years ago in November 2003 ?

Tung Shin - $ 1,000
Pusat Rawatan Islam - $ 1,500
Pantai - $ 2,000

And the colonoscope would easily be another $ 1,000 !

Dr Ashim Nandy, general cum hepatobiliary surgeon, in Tung Shin (also
goes to Pantai) at that time quoted me $ 3,000 for the harmonic scalpel.
If I wanted the staple, it would be an extra $1,000 for that device.

Which would be around $ 4,000 for staple surgery, in 2003 !

Dr Lee Hock Bee in Pantai quoted me $ 7,000 for the staple at that time.
So how did it cost you only $ 1,500, moreover plus those two extra scopes ?
And a bronchoscope plus a chest drain for a pleural effusion in my right lung
in November 2011, done in Tung Shin  by my schoolmate, Yap Boon Hung
came to some $ 3,000. Total cost of a one week stay there, $ 8,000.
Maybe take a photo of your excised hemorrhoid and post it here if you would like.
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You're right. The payment clerk did mistake. She pointed at first page (which she mistook as second page) of the receipt and told me 1400 covered by insurance. I have to pay my own RM76. Actually 1400 is only for scopes procedure.

The instrument alone is 1200, anaesthia = 1100, surgery = 1800. Total including medication, pathlab (for the stomach sample) etc =8200. Strange.. I thought my GL only covers 5000, any more than that have to go through another GL.
They sent the hermorrhoid to lab, and it's all bloodied, so I didn't ask to give me back. The painkiller is to be taken in the morning only, now it's wearing off and I'm starting to feel sore.

Did you woke up immediately after the surgery in the surgery room? I heard them all calling me, calling me to wake up, but I could not open my eyes. I can only make noise through my throat.

How long did you MC last time? Dr gave me MC until next Monday only.

Going to buy Gamogen tomorrow so the wound can heal faster.

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post Dec 4 2013, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Dec 3 2013, 11:17 PM)
$ 1,400 for both scopes ?  That's still very cheap.

I selected epidural anesthesis, which was a mistake, so I was already
awake by the time they were wheeling me out of the operating theater.
The anesthesiologist just gave me a sedative to knock me out.

No bleeding in your case ?

I must have bled a lot after he had used diathermy to cut off one of the hemorrhoids
which was too big to be grabbed by the staple.

That night itself, I started bleeding, and those lazy Malay nurses wouldn't answer
my calls. I had to call the surgeon, Zain Al-Rashid, who in turn called those lazy
b****es to screw them up.

The next morning, going to the toilet for what I thought was a bowel movement,
a big mass of clotted and dark blood stained whole bowl red.

On discharge, I ended up with a high fever a few days later, and my brother admitted
me to Sunway for four or five days. My hemoglobin had dropped to 10 grams/dL, but
the chest physician there, Usha Rani, didn't note it either.

In the end, plus the duration of the two hospital stays, I was out for a whole month.
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1,400 just the procedure and there are other charges for medical supplies etc...

Two months? That means you have very bad inflammation after the surgery? Did the first doctor give you antibiotic to take at home? Actually your doctor is Dr Zain or Dr Mohd Anis? I see their biodata, they are general surgeons. Dr Akhtar, Dr Samuel and Dr Lim are general surgeons with specialty in colorectal surgery.

As for bleeding, I think got but the doctor stuck a bandage inside my anus plus another bandage outside my anus, so I think the bandage absorbed the bleeding for the first night. There's not much stain on my bed. But the bandage is very uncomfortable, it made me wriggle here and there on the bed. They removed the bandage yesterday morning before prepare a sitz bath for me. I found it very hard to urine for the first few time.

Nurses came into my room every 2 hours to check my blood pressure and temperature.

I had bowel movement yesterday night and this morning but very little and watery. Yes, there's a blood clot coming out but already coagulated, and some bleeding after the bowel movement. Doctor said it's normal. I clean up using bidet and immediately do sitz bath.

I experience on and off pain like suddenly pricked by razor but lasted for seconds only. Taking deep breath helps. This morning I notice I was given painkiller for 3 days only.. now I'm very worry doh.gif doh.gif

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post Dec 5 2013, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Dec 4 2013, 05:22 PM)
I think you will have a bowel movement in a few more days, nothing
to worry about.

The bowel has naturally gone into spasm after being cut, so will take
some time to relax again.

Moreover, the scarring part there will narrow somewhat (stenosis), so
the stools will have trouble coming out initially.

My case is worse than yours because I had both diathermy and staple,
the diathermy causing the major scarring and stenosis.

That is why I said I made a mistake and should have chosen Ashim Nandy
in Tung Shin with the harmonic scalpel.
My surgeon was Zain Al-Rashid, attached to Pantai and Pusat
Rawatan Islam, where I went.

Mohd Anis was a general surgeon at Subang Jaya, but I think
he's probably retired by now. He ran a clinic at Taman Pertama
in Cheras in the late 1980s to early 90s. He just did the rubber
band ligation for me twice, the first time in Lady Templer nearby,
in 1986, where he was also attached.

Not inflammation, I had a high fever and URTI infection after the surgery,
as I had lost so much blood and immune system had plummeted.
Both Usha Rani, the chest physician, and Akthar Qureshi attended
to me in Sunway.

I had no insurance at that time, and had to borrow money from my
brother to pay for both hospital stays.

I was conned by AIA, which I had ''credit card shield'' insurance with,
''guaranteeing'' to repay your monthly card payments for the client in
case sickness kept him out of work.

They only compensated me a few measly dollars, after I had to pay
the surgeon $80 for the medical report, twisting their story around
that they would only pay for the period of medical disability AFTER
ONE MONTH. How many people will go on MC more than a month ?

I cancelled their fake policy immediately, and lodged reports with the
Finance Ministry, the Domestic Trade Ministry for mispresentation of
products under the Trade Description Act, 1972, as well as a police report.

Not only that, I shot a letter to the Inland Revenue's Investigation Unit
suggesting that they check out  their entire board of directors' previous
years' tax background for possible evasion (I'm in the tax line).

AIA is not an American company, as I was under the impression all the
while, but run by a bunch of conman Honkees.
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I had bm this morning, and it's no fun. It feels like something is blocking and and I have not clear everything yet. And I know I cannot push or it will exaggerate the wound. It was not awfully painful but the fear of going to toilet itself, is horrible. I hate seeing the blood clots and i keep imagining blood will come gushing out, although it's not. I cannot be sure whether I have totally emptied my bowel or not. I fear Monday when I will have to go back to work and probably need to BM there.

Tham, I'm sorry about your AIA insurance. Do you know that they're still selling this scam when people applying for credit card these days? When I applied a credit card last year, they really hard sell this to me. I told them I don't really spend much on CC so this is unneccesary. I'm not sure it's under AIA or not.

A little question; how much salt did you put for your sitz bath? I put half tablespoon only for a 50cm diameter pail, half full of water. Should I put more? Is it normal for the skin around anus to be irritated?
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QUOTE(finkl1 @ Dec 5 2013, 10:29 AM)
2005 had a heated cutlery surgery for mine, and a small banding on the other.

I did not go for the stapled as Tham (who might have forgotten me), provided his advise to me via email some years back then.

Appreciate him for his medical inputs as always.

For TS, the first few months would be a challenge. Whilst if you are younger at age, the healing would be faster, and depending on how good the surgery went.

I had blood stained almost on every BM, and some anal stricture feel. Nevertheless... I say this...Life needs to go on.

What you can do it get yourself Sitz Bath. Which I assume you might know this. Do it 3 times a day perhaps,  get some gauze and replace them during the time of healing, as there might be pus during healing, and slight bleeding as well.
I usually put about 5 tablespoonful , enought to soak me to the waist.
If require to go outside...wear those women's sanity towel.

As for diet...I had loads of papaya, water and other fruits that reduce the hardness of the BM.
Prunes (don't go for the juice...it's rubbish), would help reduce any constipation.
Have a bigger fiber intake.

The work for me was timely, as I was a contractor back then...so, I was to be renewed the next 2-3 months...and that gave me time to do the surgery...and that was also timely, when the clot was bleeding, and I had them done overnight.

I wish you speedy recovery TS. Brave it, and don't rush things....
It will be a 2-3 months healing at least ...sometimes perhaps more...but honestly...DIET is everything.
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Thanks finkl1 for your encouragement. It's really great to have people who have the same problem and surgery to come together and give advises in this forum. I have not have fruits yet since I discharged, just oat, vegetables and rice, and today I had snakehead fish porridge to see if it can heal the wound faster. I will start adding papaya to my diet tomorrow but the rest of the fruits I do not dare, as I was afraid will trigger itchiness which I had prior to the surgery. I had papaya in the hospital, so I think it's okay.

5 tablespoon? Then I think I'm not putting enough for my sitz bath, i will put more. Actually I am doing 15 minutes sitz bath for twice a day, and additional 5 minute sitz bath for every bowel movement.

Now I have another problem. The medication makes me sick. As always, antibiotic make my stomach turns , dizzy spell and itchy dry skin for me. doh.gif doh.gif I still have another 2 days of antibiotics to go, so hopefully I can make it through. Dr Lim told me surprisingly most of his older patients recover faster than younger patients probably because the muscles doesn't constrict that much in older people.

Now I am thinking whether to go back to doctor and ask for extra MC. My office's toilet hygiene level is shakehead.gif shakehead.gif and I'm afraid to use its dirty bidet. And I can't imagine no sitz bath after bowel movement.

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Today, I'm feeling a bit weird sensation there. The anus feels like tightened a bit, some little tingling pain, swelling a bit (but no pus or bleeding) and my buttock feel a bit numb.

I'm using organic sea salt (unrefined, unbleached) right now (but it's food grade)because previously the cosway branch I went, is out of stock for the Zara sea salt. Will try another branch soon since the salt is finishing soon anyway. I also have Epsom salt at home but I decided not to use it in the end after reading mix reviews online.

"Your stools will just turn dark after dragon fruits and beet roots."
This reminds me, is your yellow and contain undigested food (in my case, vegetable leaves) after the surgery or colonoscopy?

http://www.sages.org/meetings/annual-meeti...morrhoidectomy/

Holy crap.. this is what happened to me in the surgery room? I didn't search for the actual picture prior to the surgery, in order not to get chickened in the last minute. But now looking back, it still .. urgh
I'll call up the doctor tomorrow to ask for another MC.

Finkl1, I can't have antiseptic cream, because the skin there is already seriously irritated prior to the surgery. Right now... ahem.. I don't think you and Tham might approve of this but I dab some coconut oil (organic, pure, unrefined type) that I bought from pharmacy. I decided to try this last week (2 days before the surgery) since the itch was awful and preventing me from sleeping. This was recommended by "itchy hemorrhoid" and "post hemorrhoidectomy" forum. I did not apply it directly to the anus but the skin around it in very small quantity. It seemed to work but very slowly. Prior to this, I was prescribed protosedly, zarticorn (anti fungal), steroid cream but all works for only 1 day then worsen the condition.


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post Dec 8 2013, 03:47 PM

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Will you describe the kind of itch you encounter during healing? Inside or outside? Prickly or wriggly itch? Yesterday night I had a very bad itch that I am now paranoid that I might have worms. The skin around the anus (I don't know if it's eczema or what) is still irritated that I've become very depressed now. Plus I'm very concerned about the undigested food in my stool.

My friends advise me to just go to work if it's not painful because I've been thinking too much.

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Thank you Tham for your encouragement. Narciscism, although I may not be able to spell it correctly, I certainly had encounter enough of narcisist in my life to know how terrible it is. I'm sorry that you have to deal it at home.

Today is my second day at work and I am glad I did that. Sitting at home alone makes me think too much and depressed. Also at work, my colleagues encourage me not to think too much about the itch.

My bowel movement changed from twice a day to once only, so I don't have to go in the office. Now the fiber is finished, I need to eat more fruits and vege to make my stool softer. I had some bleeding today during bm. cry.gif

I think I know now why I have frequent constipation. My body have problem with animal protein, even fish's. My stool became harder since I added fish to my diet. Need to buy pears and dragon fruit later.

As for the wriggly itch, I need to pantang like women in confinement. This lessen the itch.

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My follow up with dr lim is next week. Hopefully my bleeding during bm is solved by that time. Going to ask him why stapler method yet there's a piece of hemorrhoid being cut out. I hope he'll have something for my irritated skin. So far he have not prescribe any cream for me.

There is a possibility the staples will be in there for life? blink.gif I thought I will loose itself and come out in stool. What's the staples made of?

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"Persistent pain and faecal urgency after stapled haemorrhoidectomy."

I do have feacal urgency now, always hit me very sudden and I have to stop everything and rush to toilet ASAP. Sometimes after rushing to toilet just to find out it's gas only. I do hope it's not permanent. I don't really like having bowel movement for 2 or 3 times a day. I am now trying to 'train' myself to empty bowel every morning after waking up by drinking a large jar of water. Sometimes works, sometimes no. Hope I can succeed.

I seemed to have more bleeding today. Although not painful, doesn't feel good either to see bloodied stool.Now that I finished all the fiber they prescribed to me, I am using psyllium husk + 3 portion fruits. Maybe I really need to banish fish from my diet.

My incised piles doesn't look like doughnut. If anything, it looks more like mini curry puff hmm.gif .
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Bad news. I think I may have stenosis. I feel the urgency to go toilet, but when I m there it wont come out,it took me 30 minutes in toilet just to have a few small thin stool to come out. I cant seem to clear the bowel 100%.

What can I do? I know I cant push but I had push a little because it s stuck. The opening there seemed to be a little swollen.

Cosway sea salt is finally in stock but they no longer carry the plain type, only those with lavendar fragrance. I dont thik my skin can handle perfume right now. So I tried epsom salt this morning. The irritated skin seemed to be less itchy now.

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