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Sony Xperia Z / ZL Official V~10 Thread, JB 4.3 & KitKat 4.4 It`s Comming Yo

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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 01:11 AM Return to original view \| Post #1
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	Still torn between Z and ZL. What else should I look other than the difference on the first page? What is irda remote and pressure sensor anyway? So far, I'm more to Z... Waterproof sound awesome.
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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 01:12 AM Return to original view \| Post #2
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	Anyone ever compare real life situation for battery life, Z vs S4? S4 really disappointed me.
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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 02:14 AM Return to original view \| Post #3
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Nov 30 2013, 02:07 AM) there are pros and cons to the waterproof feature. do think thoroughly. What's the con? Well, my phone recently damaged by water. And I traveling by boat a lot. Seems a good feature for me. But ironically, my note 2 gets splashed by my shower bath in bath room. It's mean I can take care of my phone while traveling but not at home.
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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 02:35 AM Return to original view \| Post #4
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Nov 30 2013, 02:28 AM) the con, in a way is if you don't have the charging dock, you will have to open close the flap for charging. also the sound quality is a bit low, due to the waterproofing of the phone. i can only think this much so far, but i hope you understand the cons. if you travel by boat a lot, i then Z is suitable for you. Sound not important to me because I headphone guy. Now I wish my Note 2 speaker is damaged instead of cam. But the flap is durable or not? Because if it's not durable, better take ZL, plus ZL are way cheaper....
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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 09:53 AM Return to original view \| Post #5
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(Nephrite @ Nov 30 2013, 08:17 AM) For the first post my answer to you is if you were traveling alot i recommend you get Xperia ZL because its durable abit. Xperia Z front and back is made of glass and if you dropped it by accidentally and if it`s break then the cost of repair is a bomb. For water splash aiyo please go in to the bath room take the shower then come out and only play your phone. Why should you bring the phone into the bathroom ? ( Doing multi million dollar business issit ? ) Second post answer :- If you know how to take care for the Xperia Z flaps then the flaps will not spoil even how many times you open and close it. Talking about flaps makes me remember my HTC Butterfly the charging port there got flaps and last time i see many people complain in LYN Forum thread because the broke their flaps Gently open and close the flaps then i am sure it will be ok because mine till now also good intact with the phone. Incase of the flaps really spoil then the cost of changing a flaps is RM 30 to 40 in Sony Center at Plaza Berjaya. Well, it's a habit of bringing my phone while answer nature call for playing game, reading etc. Why need a newspaper when your phone have news inside. So I put my phone at that particular spot I always put my phone. And , such a coincident our house water pressure suddenly too high that night, the water seems to splash out from the shower head and reach that particular spot that I put my phone. And that broken flap sound like a deal breaker for me. Maybe that's why people many let go their Z now. And the weird thing is, that evening I just plan to get a cheap phone for my 2nd number since Note considered as my best phone and high end. Now the camera damage, Note 2 automatically dropped to basic phone to me. I snap photo a lot since that's my hobby. Repairing the cam cost about RM 600-700 according to Note 2 thread. My current plan is get Z or ZL, spend some of the money for my Note 2, or get Z1 and live with Note 2 damaged cam and repair Note 2 next year. But with ZL seems like a win win for me. Note 2 revive, and I have 2nd phone. I think it's time for me to get 1080 phone. And again, LG G2 come disturbing my selection. But cam wise, seems like Xperia win among all right?
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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 10:44 AM Return to original view \| Post #6
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(Nephrite @ Nov 30 2013, 10:09 AM) LG G2 new set is RM 1599 to RM 1699 Xperia ZL new set is 1250 to RM 1350 LG G2 wins ZL in performance, graphic, battery and many more. But if compare to Z1 then Z1 wins alot. I recommend if you got enough budget then get LG G2 international set but if you don`t have the budget then get ZL and it very worth the penny. After i read your reply and your question over this thread i don`t recommend you to get Xperia Z. So many people want to buy my faulty Note 2. Why do you think Z not for me? LG G2 international how much? G2 win over Z1 in screen and the design, but but Z1 win for built and the cam. Thin bezel and IPS sound really sweet, and cheaper than Z1 too right. Am I doing things right? Discussing other phone at the Z HQ?
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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 10:46 AM Return to original view \| Post #7
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Nov 30 2013, 10:31 AM) good recommendation with valid reasons. kudos. It's more like a habit, spamming question specifically. I hope you guys don't mind.
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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 01:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(Nephrite @ Nov 30 2013, 12:06 PM) Don`t worry we can discuss here no wrong about that. I think Xperia Z is not suitable to you because the flaps is fragile and easily break if you accidentally pull it hard. The flaps connector white strips is only 2mm and its very thin. So if the flaps break you said before it will be a deal breaker for you. If flaps already been a deal breaker for you then about the phone front and back glass. You said you will take care of your phone when you travel but not at home. So if you accidentally drop your phone even at home at a right angle correctly there goes your phone front and back glass it will break. The cost of replacement is RM 900 above it i am not mistaken. ( The glass on Xperia Z have few weak points and if it`s drop ngam ngam on the correct point the glass will break ) After that you said you like to play game when you bombing in toilet. So i considered you are an android gamer and you will download games on your Xperia Z phone for example. Do you know that for Xperia Z easily get hot when you play games on that phone. From there the heat will be a issue of loosing the phone water proof feature because when the excessive of heat on the phone it will make the back glass of the phone being lifted up and you will not notice and when you dunk your phone into the water then when the glass lifted up then the water will enter the phone. After that you will have a good trip to service center hehe. Like me i just play normal Castle Clash my Xperia Z can reach 48 °C and it make me shock. Now even my phone back plate got lift up abit already. Next week i am going Service Center and repair it or see lucky go claim new. I recommend Xperia ZL because those problem above wont happen and ZL spare parts is cheap if anything happen to your phone. ZL can play games better then Xperia Z and you don`t need to scare the heat of the phone make the behind glass lifted because ZL no glass hehe and its very secure. For LG G2 if you want to buy then buy from this guy https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2682044&hl= RM 1699 AP Set. If not mistaken LG G2 Malaysia very less sell. Not sure got Ori Set anot. If compare to Z1 for me la Z1 screen better than G2 with their TRILUMINOUS and X-Reality display. The Design of Z1 looks square abit with aluminum material makes Z1 more sturdy and good. LG G2 is plastic if i am not mistaken. See here compare LG G2 vs Z1 http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPho...6&idPhone2=5543 + Z1 now only Android 4.2 and 4.3 and 4.4 is coming soon without date notice. LG G2 already seeding their 4.4 Update to users and the good thing is they skip 4.3 http://www.gsmarena.com/android_44_kitkat_...2-news-7288.php Hi, thanks for the long reply... If AP set, maybe I will get Z1 since it's RM 1799 IINM, and aluminum casing, and better cam. But Z1 is waterproof right, I afraid the overheating issue will happen with Z1 again. Hmmm... Yeah, ZL looks like the best bang for buck here, and win in every aspect though not the best. And will be Note 2 upgrade right, spec wise? And seems like Sony ahead in updates compared to Samseng.
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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 06:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #9
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(Nephrite @ Nov 30 2013, 06:12 PM) Just remind you if you want to get Xperia Z1 get the dock charger together so you will be hassle free. BTW Z1 is waterproof phone and the great feature there is the 3.5mm jack is not covered by flaps so no need to open and close the flaps when you want to pluck in earphones to listen to musics. Do remember do not call Samsung as Samseng respect each other brand because every brand have their own pro and cons. If you buy ZL its an upgrade in terms of screen resolutions, camera megapixel increase, better graphics, and IRDA system. Cons is you lose S-Pen feature, Multi Windows, Big Screen and Air View system. If you buy Z1 its an upgrade for overall spec but you still lose S-Pen / Air View / Big Screen feature. The Multi Window feature is in Z1 and not in ZL is because ZL only supports 1 Mini Apps per times while Z1 supports until your screen is full. Not sure the coming android 4.3 update will make it enabled to use more mini apps per time anot. Thanks, and again so detail. Why dock charger? All come with dock charger or not? So no USB charger for Z1? And can bring to swim or not since the 3.5mm is not covered? I think I read everything about the phone but still many to read. I will keep my Note 2 so I don't think will lose the feature. Wow, Z1 really an upgrade. I was going to buy from below link until you highlight all the pro and con that I never think or read off.: http://www.lelong.com.my/xperia-zl-free-gi...4-02-Sale-P.htm RM1k different from Z1. And Sony Malaysia warranty should be Chorus right?
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diaBoliQu3	Nov 30 2013, 06:37 PM Return to original view \| Post #10
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(JeffChong @ Nov 30 2013, 06:36 PM) Haha forget about the ip4 just single core~.~ by the way im in stamina mode.I'm comparing because we travelling about 10 hours so wanna see the battery consumption when listening song only Then he said that Sony not good as Apple? JK
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diaBoliQu3	Dec 4 2013, 07:45 PM Return to original view \| Post #11
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	Decided to get ZL, thanks to those who educate me. So, seems like RM 1305 is the cheapest ori set I found including shipping to Kuching, free anti-fingerprint SP, and free Papago M11 GPS, and the most important it's black color. Still thinking getting it or not. Thinking of looking at retail shop at Miri since I found my Note 2 cheaper than lowyat.net price last time. Hmmm...
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diaBoliQu3	Dec 30 2013, 03:38 PM Return to original view \| Post #12
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	Guys... Very confused. Either xperia zl or xperia zr... well, I know two different league but I need to know why zl better than zr other than the 1080p.
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diaBoliQu3	Dec 30 2013, 03:50 PM Return to original view \| Post #13
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	And I wondering if zr already improve the problem with z series. I mean waterproof design etc...
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diaBoliQu3	Dec 31 2013, 01:36 AM Return to original view \| Post #14
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	Seems like nobody answer me regarding ZL vs ZR. I guess will go with ZL due to the better pixel etc. I afraid waterproof design can cause issue for long term use. BTW, I read that some of you guys having issue with the battery. When you guys send for repair, or changing the battery, will it take a long time? Because today I went survey for new mobile, the seller tell me that one of his customer facing difficulties with battery replacement. I quote him "Kawan saya punya battery rosak, less than 1 tahun. Hantar pergi Sony, cakap mau tunggu satu bulan dari KL. Sudah satu bulan, cakap perlu tunggu lagi kerana tiada stock. Lepas satu bulan, Sony suruh saya punya kawan ambik dari Sony Centre kerana susah mau dapat stock bateri. Hujung-hujung kawan modifed bateri lo." I don't know if the spread fake story or what, but I just need confirmation from ZL owner or ex-owner regarding this issue. Kinda not logic for me even though I realize Kuching is another land next to malaya island.
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diaBoliQu3	Dec 31 2013, 02:10 AM Return to original view \| Post #15
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(AmmoShaf @ Dec 31 2013, 01:58 AM) I did some comparison for ZL and ZR previously but it was 2months ago, so its quite hard to find back my post regarding that. So to conclude the thing easily, I recommend ZL better than ZR. Or you could topup RM100 more and get the Z as the price difference now are not that much if you really need the waterproof features. I had enough budget back then to choose between Z and ZL(totally not interested in ZR). Before going to the shop to buy, Z is on my top list. Testing and seeing the phone directly, I choose ZL because its smaller and sexier, more comfortable in hand. And there are some of my colleague that are already using Z. I like to be different. Z is a great phone, so does the ZL. About the battery, coming from Note 2, definitely I feel the difference. Previously when using note 2, i just charge my phone one and a half day once. But with ZL, at least a day once, and I am an average user, I dont play games on my phone, just sms, calls, whatsapp, some browsing and data on/wifi 24hours. And so far I dont encounter any major battery defect that need me to send the phone to SC. I think it is okay for most people as the battery can last for a day, except if you are one hardcore user. edit : just saw your point regarding pixel. ZL and Z does have better screen resolution compared to ZR, and main reason for me to change from Note 2 to Sony Xperia phone is because I don't like over saturated screen, I want my phone screen to look natural. Thanks bro, still updating. Hopefully all will be great. Interested to get ZR but the down point for me is: - Waterproof design can be a bad thing if exposed to heat. I played mobile game and I afraid this will affect the seal etc. In the end, might not be waterproof anymore. - Already owned Note 2 which is an excellent phone, which is already 720p. So another point for 1080p phone. - I did compare Xperia Z and ZL, so I decided to get ZL. But suddenly today, got poisoned again by mobile seller at Kuching. ZR for RM 1132, ZL for RM 1240. Now I just worry for the batter replacement issue. If I'm convinced for the battery, I will grab a ZL tomorrow for sure. Or else, repair my Note 2 camera and get cheapo Android phone. I need second phone.
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diaBoliQu3	Dec 31 2013, 02:12 AM Return to original view \| Post #16
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	ZR out from the list... Only ZL in my list. Waterproof issue: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=64501158 Temptation...
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diaBoliQu3	Dec 31 2013, 02:27 AM Return to original view \| Post #17
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(AmmoShaf @ Dec 31 2013, 02:20 AM) if you really want to buy a new phone, forget about the RM100 price different and go with what you want. Okay, battery life is okay for me, not as great as the note 2. Critical battery problem like some of our forumers had here though depends on luck, as I could say there are many people outside this forum used ZL and have no issue with battery(like mine). if you still worry about this, get the original set rather than the AP as it will at least make you feel more secure. RM1240 is a good price if it is original set(thorus,midland or dynamic). That guy claim ori Sony, not AP so I think it's a good deal. I don't expect battery life to be excellent if compared to Note 2 due to more pixel, and smaller battery capacity. BTW, I think you misunderstand regarding the battery that I concerned about. It's not the standby issue that I worry. I'm concerned regarding battery replacement in case the battery spoil. I want to know if it's easy to get battery replacement or not.
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diaBoliQu3	Dec 31 2013, 11:54 AM Return to original view \| Post #18
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(anarchy2cruo @ Dec 31 2013, 11:11 AM) the main rule for not spoiling your battery is dont heat it too much. if u same as me. like to playing games. im playing games everyday on my zl. 1-2hours/day. very important rule!!do not charge the phone while playing games. it will burn.. since im using my phone naked. so there are better heats dissipation. recommended to remove casing if wanna play games for long duration. preferably if playing games dont go from 100% until below 30@20%. will shorten battery life faster. this rule only applied for xperia zl because of its fragile battery and board due to heat issue. Really? Any proof or something should I read regarding this? But I will not be really heavy gaming on this ZL since the main reason I get ZL camera. Ahhh, now my Note 2 battery life become shorter. Always abuse her until 5%.
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diaBoliQu3	Dec 31 2013, 11:13 PM Return to original view \| Post #19
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	RM 1300 including cherry brand casing, and matte screen protector. But it's black. Such a drama for black color since I already give up for black color. Suddenly that guy said, what color you want? Hehe... This post has been edited by diaBoliQu3: Jan 1 2014, 01:44 AM
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diaBoliQu3	Jan 1 2014, 01:41 AM Return to original view \| Post #20
☆ Untitled ☆ Senior Member 5,631 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: ☆ Kuching ☆	QUOTE(archangel1989 @ Dec 31 2013, 03:00 PM) im one of the victim of ZL overheat..after warning of overheat using burst camera ..my phone face SOD..and need to put charger if want to turn on the phone..sent to service centre by three week..right now now having prob drain bit too fast... How many burst you took? And is it really easy to get overheat? I hope I won't face any issue in my case so that I won't regret for getting this phone. SOD means screen of death? And what doe SC do to revive the phone?
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