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 Alienware Mothership V11, Intruder alert!

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post Jan 10 2015, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Jan 10 2015, 06:59 PM)
hahaha that's my point, looking for solutions for the already limited options I currently have lol

actually the other day I came across some articles on GeForce GTX 970 mini, which have the said 8-pin connector instead of the 6+6 pin like most of the mid-end graphics card biggrin.gif
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good luck smile.gif
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post Feb 3 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(GreaseMonkey90 @ Feb 3 2015, 12:12 PM)
After the AMA session with the GM of Alienware, there will be no MXM GPUs or DT CPUs in the near future. Therefore, if this information is important to you, you can switch to a clevo.
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thanks for the information. there are too many issues in aw gpu upgrades.

QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Feb 3 2015, 12:55 PM)
Or MSI  rolleyes.gif
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lol hell no clevo is much better although it's called a hair dryer biggrin.gif

QUOTE(GreaseMonkey90 @ Feb 3 2015, 01:37 PM)
nice, but maybe you wanna wait for a refresh, especially the one with x79. (this one is a damn heavy beast). for the one with mobile cpu (2x gpu), there is still no m.2 slots for pcie ssd. (well maybe there will not be one with m.2 slots i am not sure yet) there are already new models with z97 chip (1x gpu).

http://clevo.com/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=752&lang=en
http://clevo.com/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=762&lang=en

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post Feb 11 2015, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Feb 10 2015, 11:46 PM)
[WTS] Premium Best Thermal Paste In The Worldx Nutella Liquid Choco Ultra Cooling Thermal Compound.

See below link for more details

http://www.lowyat.net/2015/02/because-it-c...for-amd-fx-cpu/
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hehe.. seriously imo the best that are available here for aw laptops are coolaboratory liquid ultra and gelid gc-extreme. if you're worried about the electrical conductivity issue on clu, ge gc-extreme.
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post Feb 11 2015, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Feb 11 2015, 12:12 AM)
Where can get GC extreme? It go chocolate favour? Haha....

Seriously, where can get it? Garage sale got PPL selling GC extreme?
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lol!

apes.my. i got 2 tubes from them. MYR 29.00 each. will get more later biggrin.gif
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post Feb 16 2015, 11:17 AM

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nice biggrin.gif

teach us more about the heat sink mods lol!
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post Feb 16 2015, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Feb 16 2015, 11:24 AM)
Add copper shim? Later I send out a photo  tongue.gif
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yes i am looking for copper shims and heat conducting tapes to make them stick. i am not sure if the effects are good but i am gonna try it out hahaha

if this worked well i will swap my cpu later.
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post Feb 16 2015, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Feb 16 2015, 11:47 AM)
thermal compound like Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra between the shim and heatsink will good enough.
I don't think the tapes will do the heat conduction job as good as thermal compound.
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oh. that's easy. i think i will try gc-extreme out also.
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post Feb 16 2015, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Feb 16 2015, 12:28 PM)
I suggest IC diamond. Quite a good thermal compound.
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well from my experience for some reasons ic.diamond didn't work well. clu and gc-extreme are far better. i am talking about at much as 10c drop.

QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Feb 16 2015, 12:37 PM)
user posted image

Here you go.

The reason that we add cooper shim is because we have various of GPU core height and xbracket height.

If you found there are gaps between the GPU core and the heatsink, two way to go.

1) Shorten the xbracket screw thread
2) Add a cooper shim between to filled up the gap

I read a lot of review told that add cooper shim is a bad idea. Base on what I've tested, it was not much difference compare with the mod without cooper shim (shorten xbracket screw thread). Provided you need to use a good thermal compound. The test I've done is I used IC Diamond.
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oh i am looking at different heatsink mods.

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i have no issues with this one. in my case, there is no need for copper shim. with stock configurations running heavy game sessions, the temperatures are good for cpu and gpu. for gpu especially, it's around high sides of 75c but seldom reach 80c.




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post Feb 16 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Feb 16 2015, 01:27 PM)
Your GPU too cold la. seldom reach 80c is very good already. TmI never tried the small heatsink mod before. maybe will try to do one and see. Haha
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yes lol! not yet in air-cond room some more. that's why that triple-heatpipe heatsink is a must-have.

however if can go further down lagi syok ma biggrin.gif
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post Feb 21 2015, 09:09 PM

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yeah. as long as the voltage is the same, you should run higher-wattage ac adapters. your ac adapter gets longer life span because of less stress, and it's less hot. with time you might change hardware to cope with your requirements (more ram, more disks, etc.) the power requirements might also change accordingly.

for m17x r4 and 17 r1, they are good to run with a 330W ac adapter. however i haven't found anything concrete about its compatibilities with newer models.
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post Mar 7 2015, 09:53 PM

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azamalin, 93c usually means you need to do some cleanup on vents and fans, and replacement of thermal paste on gpu only. it's just a simple regular maintenance to keep the gpu in good shape. tbh i only replaced the thermal paste on my gpu of m17x r4 just recently because it's been running at stock paste for 2 years+ lol (680m) the gpu temperature was still good to me even with stock paste for so long (below 85c under load). after cleaning up and reapplying new thermal paste, i get below 80c. (for thermal paste i suggest gc-extreme from apes.my. this one is good compared to others imo. dip it into hot water for 5 minutes to make it easier to spread)

i guess the gpu is working fine. 880m should have a triple-pipe heat sink that are very efficient in heat dissipation.

if only they have a cpu heat sink with a triple-pipe configuration :/
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post Mar 8 2015, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(Haji-Z @ Mar 8 2015, 01:55 AM)
nice explaination bro.. by da way, ur AW18 also have CPU heat sink with double-pipe configuration rite? same as AW17? smile.gif
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er.. i didn't check it out yet but i think it's a dual-pipe. (however for some reasons the cpu temperature is much better than aw17 with 4900mq)

i am getting some triple-pipe cpu heat sinks for my aw18 next week anyway smile.gif

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post Mar 8 2015, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(azamalin @ Mar 8 2015, 02:06 AM)
but i read some forum states that this is problem is due to the gpu itself.  icon_question.gif
https://latam.alienwarearena.com/forums/thr...0m-over-heating
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if that's the case, you can try to talk to dell and see if they can give you options.
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post Mar 9 2015, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Mar 8 2015, 05:58 PM)
GTX 880m is hot. But if you do a great job in cooling. You won't facing overheat issue.
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yeah. it's just around 75c max in my m17xr4 (definitely below 80c). however the problem is not the gpu temperature in my case. intermittent drops of gpu/vram clocks regardless of gpu temperature are the actual problem. it can drop to 150+mhz in-game, while the temperature is just 68c.

i am using a desktop gpu driver mod by mr. fox of techinferno/nbr, with it overall game play is acceptable (running full clocks), and the effect is much less to occur. (every time i need to hide somewhere for a few seconds in-game because of serious fps drops)
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post Mar 9 2015, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(azamalin @ Mar 9 2015, 12:37 AM)
this is quite annoying, i have to stop gaming for a while. 93c is too hot for gaming+im not overclocking.
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That was why I suggested to you to clean up cooling parts and replace the gpu thermal paste first. I use 880m in old aw so there might be incompatibility exists. I use a 330w ac adapter for my 17 btw.
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post Mar 9 2015, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Haji-Z @ Mar 9 2015, 11:51 AM)
waaa... so nice... 4930/4940MX + triple-pipe... steady~~~~ rclxms.gif

i wish my AW17 with that MX processor...  tongue.gif
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oh yeah biggrin.gif damn right i use triple-pipe for 4900mq for now and later a 4940mx haha!

well, you can. just don't run oc.


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post Mar 9 2015, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(azamalin @ Mar 9 2015, 06:25 PM)
what is the best thermal compound?? am going to to order mine tomorrow
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uh? please read my previous post to you in the previous page. i have suggested you a good thermal compound, where to get it, and how to treat it before application. apparently you didn't read it.

yes, besides its abrasive nature, ic.diamond also leaves a dark mark on your heat sink. arctic cooling mx-4 is ok but still not as good.

i have tested quite a number of thermal compounds, including ic.diamond, mx-4, tuniq tx-4, prolimatech pk2 and pk3, arctic silver 5, coolaboratory liquid ultra (clu), and gelid gc-extreme. so far the best results to me are clu and gc-extreme. gc-extreme is much safer so it's my personal preference.
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post Mar 10 2015, 07:33 AM

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QUOTE(azamalin @ Mar 10 2015, 01:17 AM)
so far im stucked between gc extreme and clu. does clu safe to use?
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QUOTE(azamalin @ Mar 10 2015, 02:37 AM)
so i finally decided to choose coollaboratory liquid ultra. thanks guys!
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oh. You chose clu. It's a good choice but you have to be extra careful with it because it's electrically conductive. this was why I didn't recommend it in the first place. It also leaves a dark mark on your heat sink. To remove that you might need their own cleaning solution, or sand papers. It's not very soluble to arctic clean. When applying, remember to use only a very small amount on the heat sink and cpu die.

Well just be extra careful with it.

Edit: i cannot stress on this enough because clu can cause serious damages to components in a computer, including cpu, if you or someone you hired to do it are not careful during removal and application. Also, fyi it can corrode aluminium. So do not use it on aluminium heat sinks.

Other than that, its performance is one of the best i must say.

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post Mar 10 2015, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(azamalin @ Mar 10 2015, 01:48 PM)
i asked apes.my and no stock for gelid. is it really difficult to remove clu?? can i apply it to both cpu and gpu?
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ah no wonder. no stock?! that's fast. i got some from them just weeks ago almost immediately after their announcement of gc-extreme availability in malaysia. i wanna get some more for spare :/

i think you should check out clu removal process at google. there are videos shown at coollaboratory website also. however, the thing they don't show you is that once clu is hardened, it's hard to remove it from the heat sink.

yes you can apply it to both cpu and gpu.
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post Mar 10 2015, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(azamalin @ Mar 10 2015, 04:29 PM)
dell technician checked my laptop today and replaced the graphic card and both fans. still the temperature wont drop.  cry.gif
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QUOTE(e_mc_square @ Mar 10 2015, 04:47 PM)
They just change like that? Dell cheapluk thermal compound can't use.
I deal with Dell many time. I know they only provide very small amount of thermal compound to technician when they come to service.
The will only change thermal compound if they change the heatsink or GPU. The thermal compound is totally low grade one...
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yeah normally they just replace parts only. no thermal paste replacement. it's simple so normally we can do it ourselves. just have some tubes ready because we do clean ups ourselves also lol!


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