original guides post:

remarks:

1) please note that the minimum cost has slightly increased after maxis recent changes.


2) the guides above were flawed after maxis puts in further restrictions.


2) AND NOW IT'S TOTALLY NOT APPLICABLE ANYMORE AFTER MAXIS RECENTLY ADDED IN NEW RULES.


This post has been edited by victorywp: Feb 2 2014, 12:45 AM

how fast was the supercharge internet rm30 per month?

I have also thought about that, and damn sure Maxis has also saw the loophole.

Thus

your plan won't work (at least not fully)

because

NOW at present, Hotlink Share-A-Topup or Ask-A-Topup can only performs max RM20 transactions per day, and max RM100 per month.

So if you want to transfer RM100 from one hotlink to another, you have to do 5 times over 5 days, and with costs of (RM0.50 x 5 times)

This is probably the cheapest option if you want to have unlimited internet for Whatsapp / Email eh?

OMG they changed the max share/day to RM20

RM10 for 7 days so roughly RM2/month
Still works what

how to tell? i suppose each individual has different of standard for fast?

if that's the case, just change step (6) from rm100 to rm20. so instead of a fee of rm0.50 to transfer rm100 back from #hotlink plan to hotlink plan, it would be an additional of rm2 of fee to become rm2.50 in total.

still not bad in the end right?

for browsing too, maybe?

yeah, not sure when they changed it...


yeah, still works but with additional fee of rm2 now.

Indeed, it is still cheap...
all in
70 days of Free internet would costs RM7.50 (i.e. RM3.21 per month)
but with certain drawbacks
a) have to maintain 2 sim
b) suppose SIM 1 - old Hotlink plan with Hotlink 365/Activ10 numbers for calling
c) SIM 2 - #Hotlink plan for free internet every 10 days
d) hassle to do the transfer every 10 days

I think with the credit in SIM 2 - the money is safe there, cause once the line is inactive - you can't use the internet and thus not charged per kb <----- NOT SURE, have to confirm. Don't want a situation where I forget to do the transfer to keep SIM 2 active, and have it eat all the credit inside.

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As for me, saw the opportunity to have free internet albeit at 64kbps for a full one year 365 days + 100 days with my old Hotlink plans(in deactive period).
- top up RM100 get 100 days active + extra RM5
- subscribe to Hotlink365 (RM33) so that adds 365 days to 100 days
- upgrade to #Hotlink plan (RM5) and have 365 days+100 days of free internet.
- transfer out any leftover credit to other old Hotlink numbers which doesn't want to migrate to this #hotlink plan.

Not bothered with losing out on Activ10 - as phone seldom make calls , further more it is an Old Extra Plan, where the call rate are very expensive. So this #Hotlink call rate better for my case. But the call rate is definitely not good for those who utilizes the Activ10 numbers often.

Also not bothered with losing out on the Hotlink365 at the end of the (365 + 100 days)... can MNP out, or maybe things will change after one year whereby all telcos will give free basic internet... 465 days is a long time.

Although RM3.21 per month is good, I have heard of other MVNO that can provide affordable deals <RM8 per month unlimited with 600MB @ 364kbps with One year validity as well. But it seems only ppl with access to Genting Casino can apply. Dunno if the deals are still valid today.

This post has been edited by password8431: Nov 29 2013, 01:02 PM

After top up RM100 then subscribe to hotlink 365, validity is still 365 right? It doesn't stack.

And can we buy the hotlink plan that can subscribe to hotlink 365? All new hotlink is #hotlink right?

As far as I recall from when I first subscribed, it does stack though there must be some limit.

However, because there is the rule that you have to top up minimum RM30 in the first 6 months of the 365 days term, then I do not recommend topping up RM100 beforehand.

#hotlink is the only plan right now for new activations and port-in. I am trying to persuade Maxis to add an alternative prepaid plan that's optimized for call and SMS, and has lifetime validity.

This post has been edited by dgboy: Nov 29 2013, 11:38 AM

Yup someone said they bought 365 validity then convert to #hotlink plan it still valid for the duration.
I havent tried it yet though.

How do u persuade them to do so? U got connection to their CEO ah?



Btw victorywp in your theory, it requires 2 card to share topup with means the actual costs are RM2.50 x 2 right?

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Nov 29 2013, 11:40 AM

The RM30 requirement is no longer required.
I think there used to be a requirement to have at least one top-up of any value after Hotlink365, but even this is rescinded with Validity365.

read it somewhere in Maxis forum.

The stacking of 100 days on top of Validity365 is also confirmed in there. Seems like that is the maximum one can get at one go.

This post has been edited by password8431: Nov 29 2013, 12:20 PM

If you have an old Hotlink plan with option to subscribe to Validity365 - YES.. .365 validity is extended to your current validity days.

However all new Hotlink simpacks, and newly MNP are immediately placed under #hotlink plan with no option to subscribe to the Validty365.
Hope you understand.

The stuff the thread is discussing is for ppl with old Hotlink plan contemplating the pros and cons of migrating to this new #Hotlink. The thread starter mentioned how you can get free basic internet (at minimal costs) only if you have access to an old plan.

As mentioned, the downside of #Hotlink plan is you have no Active10, and no Validity365 and reduced deactive period from 90 days to 50 days. So calls and SMS are effectively more expensive, but then Maxis already giving you free internet @64kbps, in essence majority will be whatsapp/wechat instead of calling/sms anyway.

However if you look at the pros of it, for those who tops up monthly of at least RM30, or even wants to take advantage of the RM30/1GB per month subscription... it is worthwhile migrating to the #Hotlink plan. Coz even in deactive period, as long as the RM30/1GB per month still valid - can still use internet at "Supercharged" speed.

This post has been edited by password8431: Nov 29 2013, 01:01 PM

Thanks for the update, that's useful info. Till now, I only knew that Validity90 had no topup requirement.

found it

https://forum.maxis.com.my/forum_topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=15148

if buy topup frm u sure will save more

i haven't try internet plan yet, how their internet speed?

if browsing, will spend time more waiting loading?

mcmc now give warning to all telcos if not deliver for wht their offering

Topup RM100 + subscribe 365days can get 465 days?
I think MNVO anyone also can buy. I saw got 1 counter near Nyonya Colour selling simcards but didnt went near to check it out coz not familiar with the brand name.


Not really save.
U buy RM10 from him for 7 days for RM9.60 meaning u need RM9.60 x 4 for 1 month.
Compared to if u buy RM30 reload card u can get 30 days.

But unless u dont use the credits you bought, instead u "sell" back to him at lower price then probably its cheaper compared to buying RM30 reload card.

nice plan there... +1

it does stack up or extended on top of the 365 validity days.

not sure if certain places still selling (or still able to sell) the old hotlink sim packs. but by right all new hotlink is now #hotlink.

This post has been edited by victorywp: Nov 30 2013, 03:08 PM

hopefully you were able to persuade maxis then! all the best! do update us!

1) for hotlink to transfer rm10/time to #hotlink cost you rm0.50 x 10 times (transfer every 7 days) to get 70 days validity = rm5.00 cost.
2) for #hotlink to transfer rm20/time back to hotlink cost you rm0.50 x 5 times (transfer every day) = rm2.50 cost.

total cost is rm7.50 for 70 days validity on your #hotlink.

however, if you don't mind to keep the money in #hotlink (maybe you seldom use activ10 and prefer to call your friends at other network operators using #hotlink), then you don't have to incur the cost for (2), meaning that your total cost is only rm5 for 70 days.

just another 4% saving on the top up value.

then buy the rm30 at rm28.80 instead of rm10 at rm9.60.

anyway, the reason i started this thread is to discuss the possibility of optimising #hotlink with minimal cost (not to promote my hotlink reload). if anyone interested for hotlink top up may go to my thread there, not here.

+1

haha

Yes ... Topup RM100 + subscribe 365days can get 465 days.

Digi MVNO, Tron.

Found out that new simcards required to have atleast 3 months tenure with Maxis only eligible to receive shared credit.
victorywp

My new simcard expired yesterday now need to buy reload card liao lol

yup, i noticed that too when my sister bought one recently. need to have at least 3 months with maxis.

All sort of restrictions, maxis is not really sincere..

Why suddenly come out with this restrictions?

So with the restrictions to the Share-A-Top-UP for New Hotlink numbers, (2 or 3 months tenure before be able to share or receive top-up); that adds more complexity to these method described above.

Would have to top-up at least RM90 for 90 days on the new #Hotlink number, or keep the number active/deactive periods for 90 days.

I have always thought you need 3 months usage before be able to Share "OUT", definitely didn't know a new Hotlink number would also need 3 months to Share "IN" credit.

yeah, not sure when all these restrictions came about.

you are right. maybe will just leave it deactive and only top up before service termination within the first 90 days.


yes, and i wonder whether it's a new rule?

I guess you have to re-write your first post.

Going to be massive modifications in it.

Surprise... Surprise...


You wouldn't believe what I read in the maxis forum.

Yup.
But u can buy a normal plan and subscribe 365 days then only switch to #Hotlink plan.

I personally havent tried yet.

dunno about the switching to #Hotlink plan as you have described. Most probably there is a 6 months tenure to a year, before these newly purchased plans can migrate to #Hotlink OR other hidden requirements unknown to us.

When I changed mine to #Hotlink plan with 465 days - I guess a lot of things will change in that time. Surprise the changes came so early.

so when did you successfully switched using your idea to 465 days? seems like maxis is afraid more and more people doing the switching following the tricks mentioned here...

p/s: i like to add spice to my food but not spies to my thread!

I have done it already..... in fact did it two times,

First time, in my family there is a Hotlink number in deactive period. We were thinking of letting it terminate after 90 days, until this #Hotlink plan came about. I top-up RM30+RM10 from M2U, and realised the 30 days adds to the 365 days.
(I top up RM40 total because it costs RM33 for HL365 and another RM5 to migrate to #Hotlink Plan)

Second time, after confirmation from maxis forum, and realising that Maximum validity per any amout of top up is 100 days for RM100, I proceeded to top-up RM100 with M2U on a second Old hotlink plan (which so happens to have just expired its HL365). So I got RM100 +RM5 bonus, and then used RM38 total to get 365 +migrate to #Hotlink. So total 100 days + 365 days VALIDITY. Then over 3 days, moved the rest of the RM60 credit out to a third Hotlink number which only expires its HL365 next year and have no intention of migrating for this third number.

All this is confirmed in the MAxis forum..... you don't have to believe me if you are suspicious of me.

I only meant to inform the masses with the experience and info that I have, don't want others jumping in after just reading your first post. So I thought it would be best to update your guide.

This post has been edited by password8431: Dec 10 2013, 12:45 PM

Probably as mentioned by @dgboy, he was trying to convince Maxis to bring back plans with long live validity, after #Hotilnk plan disables this feature.

So if I am to guess, Maxis took up the consideration - and reintroduced back the old plans, but one can only purchase these plans in official Maxis centers and not outside phone shops.

And I am sure Maxis would have known about "HL365+#Hotlink" loop hole. Thus I am very sure there are certain requirements in these new sim packs that is only available for purchase in official Maxis centers.

What these requirements are - I dunno. I can only guess....
either
- cannot migrate to #Hotlink
- can only migrate after 6 months
- can migrate after 1 year
- etc.....

This post has been edited by password8431: Dec 10 2013, 01:13 PM

i believe you, of course. what i mean is there is/are maxis spy or spies in this thread (which i dislike).

No need to have spies here... there is so much information and Q&A in the maxis forum - I am very sure Maxis personnel are aware of the loophole.

In fact there already taken into account of that loophole.

HOW?

Because it costs me RM38 to have 13 months of Free basic internet.
If you work it out... it costs.. RM2.90 a month

or if I have topup RM100... then
RM38 + RM 1.50 transfer fee for 465 days.
Then it works out to be RM2.54 per month.

So... I suspect... Maxis can live with that if customer can commit those amounts monthly.

Further more, all these can only be done one time, after that... cannot do again after 13 months, or 465 days. As I mentioned, I saw the opportunity, calculated the costs, analysed the situation and took it up. Hotlink prepaid has all these cheap promo which might come in handy as well i.e. RM1=1GB(2am-7am)... etc.


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So your guide in its present description in the first post is flawed after Maxis put in all these restrictions.

This post has been edited by password8431: Dec 10 2013, 01:24 PM

Is there anyway to get the old plan with active 10?

sorry for my late reply. already put a remark at the top of the thread. thanks for the heads up.

earlier last week, i saw some places still selling the old simpacks with activ10.
but i saw that those outlets now have kept the old simpacks and now only selling new simpacks.

This post has been edited by victorywp: Dec 12 2013, 02:34 PM

still consider pricey

Guys is that free unlimited internet with an okay speed? I am planning to switch from Umobile so what do you say, is hotlink worth buying?
I just wanna use the whatsapp and viber with that free internet!

this free unlimited internet is only basic internet which allows you to surf with speeds of up to 64kbps only.
fb/twitter/whatsapp/google search is not a problem. viber may be slow.

So let me get this straight,



Results :

RM 33 + 8.80 = RM 41.8 [Initial startup]
RM 0.50 X 4 = RM 2.00 [Transfer (SIM 2) into (SIM 1)]
RM 1 Every 7 days = RM 52 [For 365 Days]

Total cost RM 95.80 for 365 Days (1st Year)

2nd Year
Reload RM 133 into (SIM 1)
RM 33 [(SIM 1) Validity365]
RM 1 Every 7 Days = RM 52

Total cost RM 85.00 for 365 Days (2nd Year)

Imaginary cost per year is roughly RM 90.00
but Reality cost is RM 140 per year. (There's no such RM 133 reload)

Condition assumed :
1) HYC will auto-revert into normal hotlink plan after expires
2) RM 10 Transfer per day [Which is below RM 20 restriction]
3) RM 15.50 balance is required for (SIM 2)
4) (SIM 2) has reached 3 months tenure(* Just got changed to 6 months) service to Maxis/Hotlink [The RM 100 Top-up], thus able to share/received share-a-topup.
5) RM 0.50 cost is deducted on side which give out the share-a-topup. Not both side

Pic of 6 months tenure


This post has been edited by myself379: Dec 14 2013, 06:03 PM

victorywp WaCKy-Angel

Just postulating here, dunno if this method will work or not. But lets think about it.

A question before I continue :- Is the tenure of a new #Hotlink pack required 3 months or 6 months before it is able to use the Share-A-topup or Ask-A-Topup??

Anyway,

My thoughts are such,

Get another friend or family, to purchase #Hotlink plan - after the tenure required, then just transfer RM10 every week to each other.

Eg:- Every Monday morning, both person transfer RM10 to each other. Each will incur a costs of RM0.50. Thus a monthly costs of having free basic internet will be RM0.50 x 4 = RM2.00 per person. And both person would have the free basic internet @ 64kbps.

Pro - Rm2.00 per month
Cons - Have to find another family/friend who wants the same setup.

This post has been edited by password8431: Dec 18 2013, 08:50 PM

previously my sister told me need 3 months tenure with maxis was on 29/11 and WaCKy-Angel reported the same on 9/12.
however, myself379 reported on 14/12 that it's now 6 months tenure with maxis, instead of 3 months.

that's yet another great plan from you! +1

but as per inform by many users (including my sister), now #hotlink still allow users to use the unlimited internet even though their validity has expired.
so basically users now not even need rm2 per month yet (as per your idea).

This post has been edited by victorywp: Dec 20 2013, 05:17 PM

6 months already now?

Hmm indeed expired still can use the internet. Weird. That day once expired the data straight gone.
And i tested again now using 3G Mobile router got H+ logo and works.

That is good news indeed. Maybe Maxis decided to bring it up a level in the competition by giving free internet @64kbps with no conditions.

Better late than never.

If this is the case, then expect more freebies from other telcos.

so top up minimum RM5, and get (5 days + 50 days deactive period) of free basic internet with no charge.

this was what he posted the other day...

useless if no coverage n stablility

still okay for using whatsapp n wechat with that speed. haha

Apparently, I was still able to connected to 2G/3G even after validity expired. Somewhat good news for now.

Regarding the tenure with maxis/hotlink, I notice is actually like this:

For a new #hotlink SIM prepaid user.

You need 3 months with tenure to be able to "received" share-a-topup. However, you need 6 months tenure to be able to "give" share-a-topup.

In worst case scenario :-
Let's say Maxis/Hotlink decided to instill "only in active period" are eligible to surf 64 kbps for free. i.e. : Need to keep topup RM30 for 30 days validity.

Combining the situation with 6 months tenure with maxis/hotlink. In order for the "tricks" to work, we need a new #hotlink SIM with 6 months tenure. That is the worst case. Provided the share-a-topup rules stay the same.

I'm not sure will the 50 days grace period will "refreshed" after topup with RM5/10 on the 49th day in the grace period though. Hopefully they refreshed

my instagram load very slow with this #hotlink recently.. anyone else?

That is the flaw we already highlighted, and indicated at the top of the very first post.

As for the grace period/deactive period of 50 days.... every time you top-up/share-a-top-up, the grace period is reset back. That much is for sure.

Maxis is aware of the problem, and working on it. You are not the only one experiencing this lag with instagram on #hotlink plan.

Same situation with you. Even, Facebook pic also sometimes takes a time to load.

I'm currently on a Hotlink365 plan, will the application for the free 64Kbps internet end my Hotlink365 plan?

few ppl says no. i havent personally try, later after May only try

your current hotlink365 validity will be maintained..... when you migrate to #Hotlink plan,

but when your current hotlink365 expired, then you don't have the option to re-subscribe again to 365, as this option is no longer available after you migrate to the free 64kbps plan .

I see, like that I won't even touch the free internet.

i've been wondering this for long time now, when the time come that we want to resubscribe to hotlink365 can't we just migrate to plan that allow it, then after successful resubscribe, we remigrate back to #hotlink and retain the extra validity?

or does maxis being tricky again and doesn't allow plan migrationa, or allow plan migration but with/after tenure?

This post has been edited by axxer: Dec 27 2013, 10:15 PM

migrate to #hotlink plan is one-way street currently

if maxis changed this in the future, it would likely only allow allow migration to a newer plan that lacks the 365 option

yes migrating to #hotlink is one way, and from here we can't reverse or changed back to older plans.

we can only hope that Maxis introduce another plan down the line, which allows 365 days subscription.

I believe this has happened before, 2/3 years back Maxis introduced a plan that with RM5 top-up for 3 months validity (0-days grace period and no 365 days subscription)... later they introduce another plan called "New Hotlink Plan/ Hotlink 3.0" with 365 days subscription. Now, this latest plan called "#Hotlink" plan ... with no 365 days.

as I know, all these extended validity options were introduced by the telcos under pressure from skmm

however, the signs are that the telcos are slowly pulling the plug on long life plans.. as they introduces new plans without it and with even shorter grace periods, such as 50, 60 and 75 days instead of the original standard 90 days

I also sensed some gentle hints from CS replies in Maxis Forum that the 365 days option may not be available from Hotlink in the future

anyway, we shall see what happens

This post has been edited by dgboy: Dec 28 2013, 12:16 AM

thanks for all the contributors of #hotlink information here.

with current situation, the hotlink365 is half dead either way. can only be subscribed by existing user whom doesn't convert to the new #hotlink

hey guys.

ive been using hotlink free basic internet simpack for about 2 month. 2 days ago i need fast internet so i subscribe RM3 200MB pack for 24 hours. after the 24 hours ended, i can't use basic internet at all! did the RM3 200MB pack makes my FOC internet basic gone? anyone had experience this before? i need those basic internet for work.

did you signed up the hotlink broadband wbb 1day 200mb?
anyway, by right it won't make changes to your free internet basic.
have you tried restart your phone and check again?
but recently many did experience unconnectivity or instability of connection to the free internet basic.

celcom sox & uox no longer have validity until 2026 & so. New sox/uox plan just come with rm5 for 1 month or buy 1 or 2 year validity like xpax.

yea..did restart phone.. n i did subscribe a RM2 data again today for 100mb. guess what, they deducted n stil cant use it. on maxis bb selfcare web, it shows my subscribed RM2 data is inactive. wtf. hmm. i think need to call the callcenter lah, i guess.

This post has been edited by topeiRa: Jan 7 2014, 01:58 AM

your problem look the same with this guy?

This post has been edited by victorywp: Jan 7 2014, 09:52 AM

Hotlink customer care is now free for first call of the month. Subsequent call is 30sen per call. Finally!

yeah..same with dat guy, but im a bit in luck today. called the call center 1300 number (not toll free). they guided me to change the setting on *100#.

because when we use free basic internet, we are in "Hotlink" profile.. when use the WBB (broadband), we are in "Wireless Broadband" profile. So it require me to change the "Tetapan" (settings).
Note: This is not the same with the phone internet profile settings that u can change in the phone, things like APN or etc is not suppose to disturb.

To revert back to free basic internet, just do this:
*100# > 01 (seterusnya) > select "Internet an Tetapan" > select "4 Hotlink Broadband" > "01 Seterusnya" > "01 Seterusnya" > select "11 Tukar Profil Perkhidmatan" - so it will send u an sms to inform the profile change confirmation.

Very hassle, because they put the menu at the very back of the system.

This post has been edited by topeiRa: Jan 8 2014, 01:06 AM

I believe there's shortcut in navigating this type of menu.

Assume that the menu is unchanged, to directly go into that particular menu. Just key in (assume Internet an Tetapan is 9)

*100#01#9#4#01#1#

This will bring you straight into the menu which display "11 Tukar Profil Perkhidmatan", kinda forgot how actually it is cause this technique is used by the phone shop that I went few years back.

This post has been edited by myself379: Jan 8 2014, 05:51 AM

yes, i already suspect you signed up the hotlink broadband wbb 1day 200mb.
because there is no 200mb for rm3 in hotlink profile.

so you need to change back to hotlink profile after using it.

Wrong,

Example, if you want to buy internet that uses bbnet's APN:

*100*9*4#

yes, # is always at the ending only.