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TSTmnet
post Nov 24 2013, 01:27 PM, updated 13y ago

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Hi guys, I'm Synarchy-FFM formally known as FriendlyFireMan. For those who are unaware, Synarchy is a competitive south-east-asia based team which is attached to BADASS and VG (Vantage Gaming). We had our facebook and youtube channels where you can check out our activities and videos. Feel free to comment and feedback.

https://www.facebook.com/Synarchy.Battlefield
http://www.youtube.com/user/SynarchyBF

Recently it was brought up to our attention that one of our players Synarchy-Krypto was hacking based on the observation in spectator mode on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS0FUl-tIpk

Just to put some FAQ ahead.
Q : How can you deny he is hacking? There is video proof!"
A : We had reviewed the video, it is not conclusive. This had been echoed by the battlefield community alike if you follow this thread http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum...64768852636181/ We felt its also best for everyone to decide for themselves based on facts by doing some research on game mechanics and not just perception alone. While we don't condone 'hacker' 'cheater' we also don't condone discrediting legitimate players.

Q : I knew he was hacking! he is having impossible KDR 42-4.
A : It is not impossible, it depends on the map (Closed map metro or lockers like map?), game mode, player form and opponents. Synarchy-MJRMCGR had posted some games in our youtube for both bf4 and bf3 you can check it out.

Q : So why didn't Synarchy-Krypto post his pub gaming videos?
A : We do not force our players to record pub games. We are however required to record scrim videos for discussion and review. But some players don't record because of frame drop. And in BF4 there are now spectator mode.

Q : He is pro but using cheat because nobody will suspect him using it!
A : While this is a possible scenario it is merely a accusation without proof. Without proof this statement can be used on everyone, pro or normal players alike. Since with the 'cheat' you can adjust your skill level.

Q : He is cheating for fun!! Just for testing out cheats, and he is only using it in pubs and not scrims!!
A : Same as above.

If anyone wants to discuss this issue based on facts and game mechanics and not perception and witch hunt mentality please fire away. You may also ask any questions about our team if you would like to know more.
niy1989
post Nov 24 2013, 01:32 PM

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Well, only PB screenshots can tell the truth now.
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post Nov 24 2013, 01:43 PM

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I truly believe Krypto ain't hacking. Video is too bloody laggy to be conclusive, and from what I've seen, its quite legit to me since in spectator mode it will show ALL ENEMIES...
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post Nov 24 2013, 05:47 PM

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im just going to say - hahaha.
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post Nov 24 2013, 08:45 PM

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Hi Synarchy, Gooby here from deviantGaming.

I have also reviewed the video (that you provided but) earlier today in the noon. I personally conclude that spectating video cannot be THE evidence to proof he is cheating. However, based on the recording and how people have been hackusing him, he should, I repeat, should, record a pub game to proof that he isn't.

We all in the competitive know that Synarchy - is a well known clan that is very clean. Hence, the best way to proof it is by pub record.

And record with dSLR/video cameras to proof there are no external ESP & radars.
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post Nov 24 2013, 11:04 PM

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Hi Gooby, thanks for the support. Thing about pistol is that you pull it out and spam it after your primary weapon runs out of bullet and there's no time to aim down site because you're in middle of firefight. This is exactly what happened in the hackusation videos. Impossible? I had reproduced it easily in test range and I'm not even using FN57.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efqcOdFUbbA&feature=youtu.be (please turn off the horrible music)

BTW, I think in the battlelog forums more and more people are supporting us by stating the facts and logic. By the way, I'm sure they already have hours of his PUB video in spectator mode since you see this is recorded throughout different maps. Upload the full uncut video of him playing in MBT server in spectator mode for everyone to see and judge.

But to us this is all just a big misunderstanding and hope everyone can learn from it and move on.

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MieRz
post Nov 24 2013, 11:30 PM

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Thanks for trying to replicate this, but it doesnt seem to match the original video. Could you try replicating that in a public game on a human target, while moving (not crouching).

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post Nov 24 2013, 11:52 PM

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I was standing btw and I need to go unlock my FN-57 first, to save everyone's time.... Please get second opinion. BFNUT has a facebook page, go ask them see what they think. In facebook you can also create a fake account if you don't dare to show your real identity.

Otherwise ask MBT to upload the full video so everyone can judge. If there are hours of videos recording his game play and the only thing to show for is shot down by the community what do you think? And in hours of recording are these the only pistol kills they can find? Get MBT to upload the full video then we talk. Otherwise people are just going to ask me to replicate things again and again because they are not convinced (because they made up their mind)


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post Nov 25 2013, 12:03 AM

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And if you want to go with the logic of "OH since you can't reproduce that pistol shot in pub game hence you must be hacking"

Please post that statement in the battlelog forum thread Sirolgac4 created. Or just state that hipfire pistol mid-long range is impossible I would love to see the responses of the community. But i doubt you would because you would have to use your real battlelog account and you know how much of a fool you risk sounding like in everyone's eyes.

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post Nov 25 2013, 12:50 AM

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I just saw this and no...we dont know that mierz guy. I can see that you are implying he is us...secondly, i'm not gonna waste my time arguing with people, especially on battlelog forums. I didn't post there in the first place because it clearly states no posting of such material and that wasn't the main intention. I'm surprised its not even deleted yet.

As you realize, the video in still in unlisted mode, it was passed around for admins to judge if they want to ban (hence posted for LYN, GOLD, and MBT). He will be continued to be banned in ours. I for one can get around the pistol where it might be plausible, but not the esp, aek, & ace23. Lastly, this will be my last post on this matter while I figure out how to upload 50gb uncompressed video.

EDIT: We never did bring in KD into the discussion. There are other players in your ranks (eg: Fyre) which had better K/D but looked absolutely fine as a player. Also, Fyre never did have an MAV up the entire time, so I'm not sure what he is talking about in the B-log forum.

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post Nov 25 2013, 12:56 AM

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Not easy to recreate those pistol shot as those enemy on receiving end of them is pretty bad tongue.gif

It's not impossible to get those kills though especially with FN57, it is very accurate and have one of the highest range. If you watch most sniper streamer or clips on Youtube, you would notice this is their sidearm of choice to secure the kill after getting a hit marker.

About the long range ACE shot, it's nothing out of the ordinary. If you frequently play that map especially on TDM, 90% of the time you would find at least 2 or 3 sniper campers right where he shoot at


p/s: How do you keep increasing your skill so quickly, trying desperately to dethrone you laugh.gif
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post Nov 25 2013, 01:42 AM

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Hi, tmnet ~ i just trying to find out the truth, but you end up accusing me sad.gif


i have not bought bf4 yet, still saving money. i am reading about the game now, but i sad to see that there is hacking problem in the games already, i am a bf3 player.

o by the way, my ign is ApLinD, so you can stop thinking too much ~ sad.gif

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TSTmnet
post Nov 25 2013, 01:48 AM

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I'm not implying anyone. I'm asking that new poster to reveal himself and don't be a coward. And also, the K/D question is not towards MBT its something someone else brought up in Facebook. Fine this is for admins, but i'm creating this thread because you posted in a public thread and they are spreading like wildfire. We are getting messages telling us about the video and that they are supporting us, they know we are legit. If fact holeymoley from BFNUT is supporting in battlefield log thread, Battlefield India is also showing a lot of support. There's a Malaysia Battlefield Community on facebook who initially thinks Krypto hack but had changed their mind after thoroughly reviewing the video. Its not always about you or MBT. We are fine with leaving things as it is.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/battlefield.my/

Its ok if you don't want to waste time arguing with people, these people stated facts whilst you guys made up your mind. If I can't do it means he hack. oh wait you just said you can get around the pistol i wonder why you make the pistol video count in the first place. Its not like he run around gunning people down with pistol. He followed up with it for the kill and that is consistent throughout the video you posted.

MBTserver is a 64 man map its not strange that people are spotted and furthermore we play VOIP. I'm sure MBT has teamspeak as well and teammates will report enemy positions. And then there's Minimap.

All these are stated by posters in battlefield log forums and other communities and if you want to continue to do hackcusation within your own circle we are fine with it.

You don't have to upload your 50gig video, you can show everyone in the LAN event next month. We will have other people looking at it.

ITSYBITSYPONY - Skill is quite random, and there are a lot of players better than me. I remembered you from pub one time. You're quite good ...i think you can exceed me easily if you keep playing.

This post has been edited by Tmnet: Nov 25 2013, 02:11 AM
TSTmnet
post Nov 25 2013, 02:00 AM

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To Mierz : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umVvX6g143M&feature=youtu.be

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post Nov 25 2013, 02:05 AM

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I need to get a mic and run with fixed squad. I remember you guys keep reviving each other, making me so frustrated that no one ever revive me. We lose like 3 game straight until you guys leave cry.gif
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post Nov 26 2013, 04:01 PM

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I thought this discussion is already over. Im still not convinced that Krypto is hacking, considering that pistol has the 2nd highest range in the pistol category. I agree that someone need to upload the entire match to judge, since recording some kills that kinda looks like aimbot doesn't proof anything at all. That ACE 23 kill looks ok to me.
QUOTE(Nojo @ Nov 25 2013, 02:05 AM)
I need to get a mic and run with fixed squad. I remember you guys keep reviving each other, making me so frustrated that no one ever revive me. We lose like 3 game straight until you guys leave  cry.gif
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post Nov 26 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(devillightning1 @ Nov 26 2013, 04:01 PM)
I thought this discussion is already over. Im still not convinced that Krypto is hacking, considering that pistol has the 2nd highest range in the pistol category. I agree that someone need to upload the entire match to judge, since recording some kills that kinda looks like aimbot doesn't proof anything at all. That ACE 23 kill looks ok to me.

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