QUOTE(samkps @ Dec 11 2013, 09:15 PM)
LOL ... me TKJ over here enuf de, let Sam kor be the advisor over there Setia EcoHill (SEH) V5: Inspiring Eco Township, SEH Comprehensive Info Thread
Setia EcoHill (SEH) V5: Inspiring Eco Township, SEH Comprehensive Info Thread
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Dec 12 2013, 10:33 AM
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Dec 12 2013, 10:35 AM
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Dec 12 2013, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(firett @ Dec 12 2013, 09:53 AM) I don't wish to pour cold water over your estimation, but 80-90% is definitely very optimistic figure ! Perhaps, yes in the initial stages, but over time you'll be laughing behind your back if you can get anything beyond 70% ! I know, becoz the place where I'm currently living we (or rather they, since I'm just a contributor only) set up a RA few years back. Starting I would said around 80%, but now we would be very lucky if can get each month 60% !! But, still they are maintaining the programme........sometimes just "break-even" only ! And mind you, the charges RM50 only per month !! You can't drink kopi-ais every day with that amount in a month, I believe ! LOL. The best part is those who don't pay always instigate others not to pay !! Paiseh mah to them !! And yet, those who don't pay rumah ada berbiji-biji kereta punya loh !! Btw, since the programme started, my area had seen a drastic drop in housebreakings, snatch thiet, etc, etc. So far, only 1 isolated case I heard. Before that, every week also a few cases!! Bro, what you said is true. I am just trying to be positive here Wish you guys luck !! |
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Dec 12 2013, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(treehill @ Dec 12 2013, 11:57 AM) Bro, what you said is true. I am just trying to be positive here Actually kesian those committee members....doing voluntary service only, no gaji, need to arrange this, need to arrange that, come end of the day........seeing those figures keep dropping slowly but surely !Too many Malaysians took advantages of others' kindheartedness and sacrifices, I guess !! This is a classic case of Lembu Punya Susu Sapi Dapat Nama !! |
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Dec 12 2013, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(firett @ Dec 12 2013, 11:06 AM) Actually kesian those committee members....doing voluntary service only, no gaji, need to arrange this, need to arrange that, come end of the day........seeing those figures keep dropping slowly but surely ! Yes bro, always reactive but not proactive. If nothing happen to them they won't pay a single cent I guess. When something happen to them they might CONSIDER to pay. Like I said before, can only hope for the best.Too many Malaysians took advantages of others' kindheartedness and sacrifices, I guess !! This is a classic case of Lembu Punya Susu Sapi Dapat Nama !! |
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Dec 12 2013, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(treehill @ Dec 12 2013, 08:29 AM) 1. Everytime payment is made, free organic vege for residents. Appreciate for the suggestion.... 2. If extra money collected for current year, next year pay can pay lesser. 3. Extra money can use it to fix/implement certain things which will directly benefit the residents. 4. Explain to resident the benefit for security. This is in terms of safety and traffic as well. 5. Security will help boost up the property price as ppl now see security is compulsory. Would it be cost feasible if there is discount for those resident who pay advanced? For example, 0.5 month free for 6 months advanced payment, 1 months free for 12 months advanced payment, etc.... How about the touching card with certain valid period for the boom gate? Is it okay not give to those resident not paying the fees or dragging the payment? They still can pass through the gate, just everyday in and out need go to the guard house for validation purpose, is this feasible? |
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Dec 12 2013, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(firett @ Dec 12 2013, 09:53 AM) I don't wish to pour cold water over your estimation, but 80-90% is definitely very optimistic figure ! Perhaps, yes in the initial stages, but over time you'll be laughing behind your back if you can get anything beyond 70% ! I know, becoz the place where I'm currently living we (or rather they, since I'm just a contributor only) set up a RA few years back. Starting I would said around 80%, but now we would be very lucky if can get each month 60% !! But, still they are maintaining the programme........sometimes just "break-even" only ! And mind you, the charges RM50 only per month !! You can't drink kopi-ais every day with that amount in a month, I believe ! LOL. The best part is those who don't pay always instigate others not to pay !! Paiseh mah to them !! And yet, those who don't pay rumah ada berbiji-biji kereta punya loh !! Btw, since the programme started, my area had seen a drastic drop in housebreakings, snatch thiet, etc, etc. So far, only 1 isolated case I heard. Before that, every week also a few cases!! This is indeed very sad, it just cost you a few starbucks coffee a month, but yet not willing to pay. Shame of them.Wish you guys luck !! Can the RA set up a fb page and share the information for those people with such selfish behavior so that every resident know? |
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Dec 12 2013, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(firett @ Dec 12 2013, 11:06 AM) Actually kesian those committee members....doing voluntary service only, no gaji, need to arrange this, need to arrange that, come end of the day........seeing those figures keep dropping slowly but surely ! I salute and respect those RA committee members. Be a responsible resident, and we should appreciate every effort the committee member pouring in... Too many Malaysians took advantages of others' kindheartedness and sacrifices, I guess !! This is a classic case of Lembu Punya Susu Sapi Dapat Nama !! |
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Dec 12 2013, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(treehill @ Dec 12 2013, 11:30 AM) Yes bro, always reactive but not proactive. If nothing happen to them they won't pay a single cent I guess. When something happen to them they might CONSIDER to pay. Like I said before, can only hope for the best. Bro treehill, I agree with you, since there is no legal pressure, residents may act selfish. This is really annoying... |
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Dec 12 2013, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Dec 12 2013, 11:39 AM) This is indeed very sad, it just cost you a few starbucks coffee a month, but yet not willing to pay. Shame of them. I only go mamak stall drink kopi-o saja...... Can the RA set up a fb page and share the information for those people with such selfish behavior so that every resident know? |
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Dec 12 2013, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(firett @ Dec 12 2013, 11:06 AM) Actually kesian those committee members....doing voluntary service only, no gaji, need to arrange this, need to arrange that, come end of the day........seeing those figures keep dropping slowly but surely ! Ya, really Kesian the committee. Sometimes kena kaow kaow from those refuse to support. Too many Malaysians took advantages of others' kindheartedness and sacrifices, I guess !! This is a classic case of Lembu Punya Susu Sapi Dapat Nama !! Maybe need to let them( ppl dun wat to pay) kena kaow kaow one time. Tak kena chili paddy Tak tahu pedas. |
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Dec 12 2013, 01:24 PM
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Dec 12 2013, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Dec 12 2013, 11:33 AM) Appreciate for the suggestion.... Your suggestion is a good 1 but also provided it is enough to cover all the necessary fees Would it be cost feasible if there is discount for those resident who pay advanced? For example, 0.5 month free for 6 months advanced payment, 1 months free for 12 months advanced payment, etc.... How about the touching card with certain valid period for the boom gate? Is it okay not give to those resident not paying the fees or dragging the payment? They still can pass through the gate, just everyday in and out need go to the guard house for validation purpose, is this feasible? Btw, boom gate and touch card will only be cover by those who willing to pay. Those not willing to pay, maybe we can negotiate with them to at least pay certain amount to get a car sticker or something. At least guards will know and won't simply let ppl come in. Most importantly, every unit should be given a sticker so they will know which 1 is covered. Those do not have that, if got thief or robbers then we can ask them to ignore. I know this is bad but if they don't pay and they still get the help it wont be fair to those who contributed. |
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Dec 12 2013, 02:09 PM
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Dec 12 2013, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(Rabel @ Dec 12 2013, 01:07 PM) Ya, really Kesian the committee. Sometimes kena kaow kaow from those refuse to support. If they dont pay and you are paying and there is a robbery at their place. You want to help? You want to ask guards to help? Really susah... Maybe need to let them( ppl dun wat to pay) kena kaow kaow one time. Tak kena chili paddy Tak tahu pedas. |
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Dec 12 2013, 02:31 PM
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