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quovadis123
post Nov 26 2013, 01:17 AM

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hi,
keyboard newbie here.
Want to ask where I can find blank pbt key caps set?
Btw, coz I'm using Dvorak layout, so common qwerty not useful to me.

Thanks.
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post Nov 26 2013, 01:27 AM

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As long as you not looking for black color, taobao quite a lot.


Thanks. Most colors I also can accept as long as blank. smile.gif
Still looking in taobao store.
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post Nov 26 2013, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 26 2013, 01:33 AM)
Just incase you need keywords.

- 无刻
- pbt
- keycool pbt

If only 37 keys are enough for you, then
- Cherry 无刻
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Ya. 37 keys are enough for me.

Cherry 38

I only need more tahan d key caps. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 26 2013, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 26 2013, 01:42 AM)
My link better, more reliable.

BTW, your model? Cause this set of keycaps are cherry profile, mean if you install it on OEM profile, it will be a tad shorter.
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ducky shine2 Black (MX blue), Filco Majetouch 2 White(MX Brown)
Heard there are a lot of kind of key caps materials.
POM, PBT, dye sub etc.
Which 1 is the most tahan 1 for intensive typing.
My ducky's ABS keys already shining using around 1-2months.
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post Nov 26 2013, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 26 2013, 01:55 AM)
Dyesub isn't material, but the printing method.

Since your boards are OEM profile boards, I think the previous link isn't too suitable for you (that one cherry profile, if install on your board will be shorter than stock keycaps).

PBT and POM are durable enough for most ppl.
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So, can't choose any key caps with cherry name on it? sad.gif
I think POM is ok to me, although i never type on with POM as long as it blank. smile.gif
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post Nov 26 2013, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 26 2013, 02:20 AM)
In short yes, those "Cherry" and "原厂" better to avoid.

For POM, I will suggest you better avoid it too, as most POM keycaps are made too tight, mean you may accidentally pull the switch stems out when removing keycaps next time.

In short, I will suggest you to get from below, depend on your color preference (avoid black color as it is POM)
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....&id=15485618522
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....&id=19215064699
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Thanks for the links. Really look nice white PBT in the 1st link, and purple in 2nd link.
Really thanks for the help. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 26 2013, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 26 2013, 02:13 AM)
Trying to order this too. 87PBT白色无刻
And another extra 37keys PBT白色无刻. drool.gif
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post Nov 26 2013, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 26 2013, 08:04 AM)
Nope.

I suggest him to avoid cherry profile for dat he isn't changing fullset. It will be weird to mix both oem stock keycaps with cherry profile.

Regarding the POM part, some chinaboards (namely keycool, kbc and plu) are having tight POM. The ok one is rare, such as official cherry or plum's one.

In his condition, he seeking for blank cap, which so far the ok one (POM) didn't offer (except you manage to special order official cherry one unprinted). As he is still beginner, so I suggested him to simply avoid it.

For the vortex RGB, yar the printing sucks, but at least, it is still pbt, which is far superior than most oem boards' offer.

So in short, my suggestion is valid enough. I gave suggestion based on his requirements and needs, rather than suggesting what is the best he can get.
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Bro,
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....&id=19027437880

Is this keycool reliable? Should be ori right? not clone..
I'm interested in 108键 无刻 & 字母区37键 无刻.

Yesterday cherry profile red color 37 keys price is too cheap.
Should be clone.
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post Nov 26 2013, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Nov 26 2013, 11:51 AM)
user posted image
should be something like this kua...

and no i'm not interested in pitch black yet haha!
i'm pretty much locking down on Raindrop set next month or January.
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Do they have really blank non-legend type black pbt key caps.
Weirdo here biggrin.gif
What I saw in taobao only POM black.
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post Nov 26 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Nov 26 2013, 11:57 AM)
blank black pbt keycaps? hmm...i might have come across but i didn't take notice because i'm not interested in blanks yet tongue.gif
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I use touch typing.
I don't really see what font on my keyboard.
Most importantly still the feel is good then is ok.
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post Nov 26 2013, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 26 2013, 12:22 PM)
IINM, 108 keys set that are blank somemore had long gone in taobao (even keycool's own store also don't have).

Better ask the agent to double confirm the availability first.


EDITED: Just checked the sale history, recently still got a set sold, mean probably still have stock.

Also, as the keycaps maybe quite old, I not too sure on the compatibility of the spacebar, better have a check on that too.

EDITED2: Just noticed that they bundle in an extra no logo blank spacebar, with 5 stems one. Which mean it should be compatible with Filco, ducky and so on.

Regarding the cherry profile thing, I don't think it is fake. The RRP is around the 7x range RMB. It is firstly mean to be a bundle for those who get Cherry G80-3496.
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Thanks.. tongue.gif
So, I will go for this 1.
Why the black pbt is so rare? I only see alot of POM black in taobao..
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post Nov 27 2013, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Nov 26 2013, 11:48 PM)
TK user here, the build quality is not bad and have bunch of features. Unless u really need a compact kb with numpad like me, else not so recommended due to the non-standard layout.
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Any nice features?
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post Nov 27 2013, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Nov 27 2013, 12:27 AM)
1. LEDs backlit
2. NKRO with USB
3. Media keys access and Win Key lock

And the rest u can pretty much find in official web or other reviews in detail.
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Great features there of LED backlit and winkey lock.
Btw, how great is the NKRO? do common people really able to utilize NKRO?
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post Nov 27 2013, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ Nov 27 2013, 12:47 AM)
The NKRO is working and i don't really utilize it fully. I only enable it when playing o2mania that needs 7 keys pressed at same time. Compared to 6 keys, I feel very slightly delays when using N-Keys mode. I'm not so sure about this is true or not coz it just a feel.
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I'm wondering for so long why my lapsap ASUS laptop keyboard can support 8 keys rollover by default. sweat.gif
But my mechanical keyboard support 6keys. Sometime I really think NKRO not really a feature.
Anyway, 6keys default is enough for me. There is a dip to switch from 6keys to Nkeys.
Maybe there is limitation after switch to Nkeys like your delay etc. smile.gif
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post Nov 27 2013, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 27 2013, 01:05 AM)
Laptop's keyboard isn't using USB interface, hence no the default 6keys limitation.

Btw, I doubt your keyboard is really 8kro. I think it is 2kro but passing certain 8keys combination.
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I tested using this
http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/c...ostingDemo.aspx
Maybe you are correct 2kro but passing 8keys.
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post Nov 27 2013, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 27 2013, 01:08 AM)
im in doubt either. even if they are able to put a 6 KRO onto a laptop, maybe the PCB board will be very thick. hence, the laptop's thin profile cannot be kept.
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Care to explain actually what kept inside the pcb?
What kind of profile?
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post Nov 27 2013, 01:18 AM

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Do Filco Majestouch 2 have features? No dip key behind d keyboard, no NKRO only 6kro.
I can only feel the great typing feeling is the main feature. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 27 2013, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Nov 27 2013, 01:20 AM)
no features nor flashy shits.
just a plain, firm and reliable piece of normal keyboard.
the brand scream itself.
it doesn't need flashy things to show off  laugh.gif
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True enough.
Since I disabled the LED light of the caps and scroll lock & remapped entirely the keyboard keys to the layout I prefer.
The media keys on mechanical keyboards always useless to me.
Just the great typing experience, that's why I enjoy using mechanical keyboard.
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post Nov 27 2013, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(raymondtong94 @ Nov 27 2013, 01:34 AM)
doh.gif  doh.gif

its a circuit board, brah.
i mean that since a mech kb has 6 KRO (as default), normally the board itself will be thicker than laptop keyboard's board. so if you are going to plant that thing into your laptop, are you able to close it perfectly?
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Of course dont fit if using pcb on laptop.
But that not real reason.
Haha.. mkb , each switch as diode on pcb.
Indeed is thick since using pcb, more durable and long lasting. smile.gif

My ASUS laptop is thin keyboard, inside is using flex cables.
Laptop can use multilayered flex to support its individual key IC design.
But it is hassle and not cost effective. Once single key break, hard to fix.
Everything is possible.
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post Nov 27 2013, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(168257061 @ Nov 27 2013, 01:51 AM)
Typing experience is the first thing to consider in mechanical keyboard.
That's why hardcore people always looking for the best for their fingers.

Usually starting from the switch.
Linear vs Tactile. Best linear would be vintage black and the tactile one should be mx clear.

Springs - stock springs not so nice - 55G/62G korean springs will be the best.

Lube - A must for the best feeling out of your fingers.

Stickers - Eye candies. Less wobbles, for people can feel it.

Plate - just metal/alu plate.

Casing - Metal casing is a must too (P/S I should recommend this first before anything)

Memory foam - Another little things, but giving great effect. It dampens the sound a lot. Quite noticeable. But you can't use too thick as you will feel like typing a keyboard on sofa.
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You're the hardcore 1 rclxms.gif
Actually why MX Clear is the best for tactile? Do it feel like heavy MX brown instead of MX Blue?
For casing, why metal alloy is a must? because of the crispy sound produce? brows.gif
Currently, I still ok with the thermosets casing of Filco or ducky altho not elegant enough to fight metallic finishing casing.

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