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post Nov 24 2013, 05:28 AM

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post Nov 26 2013, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Nov 25 2013, 03:46 PM)
This is singapore commission, for Malaysia is far lesser for the first year premium.
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Yes, those are the commision rates for Singapore. I was thinking Malaysians' rates should be close. Oh, it is not shocking.gif


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post Nov 26 2013, 11:29 AM

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Great Eastern life insurance commission?

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1st year - 45%
2nd year - 35%
3rd year - 20%
4th year - 10%
5th year - 5%
But life as insurance agent seems tough as 65% of insurance agents earn below RM20,000 a year?

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65% of insurance agents earn below RM20,000 a year
http://www.thestar.com.my/story.aspx?file=...tion%2f11929562
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post Nov 26 2013, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Nov 26 2013, 01:52 PM)
Malaysia's commission rate is steady decrease unlike Singapore. This is to maintain a healthy Persistency Ratio in the market. FYI, if first year premium is too high and significantly drop after 1st year, the agent will "lose motivation" to service the customer after the 1st year.
Yeah of course, because in insurance industry, about 60% are parttimer or no-timer. They don't bother to do the sales and every year about 15% of manpower being terminated.
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A good insurance agent would want to sell personal accident insurance as well as travel insurance (for vacation/holidays) in addition to the life insurance to his/her customers. It is not just sell one life insurance, done deal, after 5 years, no more profit. Apart from selling personal accident and travel insurance to the customer, he has opportunites when the customer gets married, the spouse will maybe buy life insurance or when the customer has new borns, the customer will buy more insurance. I can see why a part timer gets demotivated because of his/her lack of time to build relationships for business opportunities.


QUOTE(ExpZero @ Nov 26 2013, 01:52 PM)
Malaysia's commission rate is steady decrease unlike Singapore. This is to maintain a healthy Persistency Ratio in the market. FYI, if first year premium is too high and significantly drop after 1st year, the agent will "lose motivation" to service the customer after the 1st year.
Yeah of course, because in insurance industry, about 60% are parttimer or no-timer. They don't bother to do the sales and every year about 15% of manpower being terminated.

If you look closely in Great Eastern's commission payout in year 2010.
Source: Bank Negara Malaysia. http://www.bnm.gov.my/files/publication/dgi/en/2011/L2.pdf

GE has paid out nearly 700millions of commission and we are having 16,000 agents and about 15% of agent are not doing any sales at all.

We can neglect 15% of the agent who are not doing any business at all(waiting to be terminated).
By simple mathematics, every agent averagely earning, 700,000,000/13,600(active agent)=RM51,470/year = RM4,289/month.

This is nothing to boost about it as RM4k+ can be easily reach by any average Kuala Lumpur executive who has been working for about 5 years in MNC.

However, we have to do a little mathematic to show real fulltimer's income as there are only about 30-40% of insurance agent are full timer.

I have no database to show the percentage of full timer's earn. However, as far as I know, a manager averagely earn RM15,000 and a Group manager averagely earn RM30,000.
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Those figures are good to know. RM4300/month is decent pay and the best part is the insurance agent has complete control on his work hours. The manager pay of RM15,000 a month is impressive. Worth venturing into if one is good in sales.



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post Nov 30 2013, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Nov 29 2013, 10:34 PM)

They like to show off their car with 126 number plate:


Basically it's a group of HLA agents all under Michael Tan, and his brothers Alex and Desmond.
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All those fancy cars.. with 3 digits number plates..

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post Dec 2 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Dec 2 2013, 11:44 AM)
Then what about the assistance provided to the clients for claims. Does the agent receive commission as well?
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No commission paid for claims. That is part of the agent's job responsibility. Insurance company needs to make profit drool.gif

 

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