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post Mar 6 2014, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(skuipeng @ Mar 6 2014, 09:37 PM)
hi all,i'm currently using amd phenom x4 945+msi hd 5770
is it possible i change my gpu to better unit for me to play game like crysis
3 or bf4?? do i need change my cpu also??
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If you're perfectly happy with playing at medium settings for BF3/BF4 then it should be fine. The HD5770 should be able to achieve reasonable FPS at that range.

But if you want 1080p Ultra then its a different story. You'll definitely have to get a better GPU. Do you have a budget it mind?

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QUOTE(skuipeng @ Mar 6 2014, 11:43 PM)
+-3500 what can i do for my system ungrade?
cpu:phenom x4 945
mobo:msi 770a-g43
psu:750w
ram:kingston 4g normal
cpu cooler:cm v8
gpu:msi 5700 hawk

thx for helping
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I think you can reuse that PSU, your old hard drive and casing.

Intel Core i5 4570 - RM639
Asrock H87 Pro4- RM319
Corsair Value Ram 8GB DDR3 1600MHz - RM239
MSI R9 290 Gaming – RM1499
Plextor M5S 128GB SSD - RM299
Phanteks PH-TC14PE "Black" CPU Cooler - RM280

Total : RM3275

Full 1080p gaming anytime anywhere any title. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(skuipeng @ Mar 7 2014, 12:17 AM)
huh,where can i sell those old school stuff oh.......hahah
and sorry about i forgot to mention the sad i already owned the ssd which is
1xintel 530 120g 1xkingston v300 120g 2darddisk 250gb 1x500gb

for gpu is that big differentn(beside price) between 280x toxic and r9 290(which is 4gd5/512bit)

and one more thing to ask here,
as an example what if i got 1500 budget to get mobo+cpu
should i get i5 4670k+asus vi hero or
i7 4770k + asrock extreme 3?? as both about the same price.
thx again bro  biggrin.gif
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You can try selling it on LYN. There are still people buying old school stuff. smile.gif

As for price difference, its around RM300-400 depending on which 280X and 290 model you're looking at. But i do suggest topping up for that performance increase.

No point getting the 4670K or 4770K if you are not overclocking. If you really want good performance get the Core i7-4770 (non k version) and a good H87 board like the ASUS H87I - PLUS LGA 1150 if you wanna spend a little more.

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 7 2014, 09:17 AM)
Thanks bro.

I read alot of reviews yesterday, come out with the selection very similar to ur recommended.

1. i7 4770K
2. Asrock Extreme4 Motherboard OR
    GIGABYTE Z87X-UD3H OR (Damn expensive)
    ASUS Z87-PRO
3. RAM wise, might stick to your recommendation speed. Brand wise is OK for me, see which one cheaper.

As for WC, still in review research.
In my mind now got Swiftech H220, Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme and Corsair H100i.
Chew Yongxian May i know where can i get the Swiftech H220? I stay at JB, and will go to Genting from next Friday until Sunday, between i will go to KL Lowyat Plaza to hunt for my rig component, can you tell me which shop carry this WC kit? I download few price list, i only saw C-ZONE carry alot of coolers, but still i couldn't see Swiftech H220.

As for Thermaltake water 3.0 Extreme, price around 399, the performance is better than Swiftech H220 in max fan power, but at the expense of noise. However 3.0 Extreme fan and bump speed can controlled by software (Through internal USB connection), which is attractive too.

For Corsair H100i, the performance is quite similar to Thermaltake water 3 extreme, but the price is higher. Also come with control software.

Casing wise, can i get something decent under RM200? Corsair 350D is overkill IMO. tongue.gif
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Just stick to the Extreme4 mobo. It's good enough. No need to overspend to much like getting the Z87 Pro.

Swiftech H220 you gotta get via Lowyat forum from Cyntrix or any of their resellers like GBros. They hold the swiftech license.

Regarding the Thermaltake, if you don't mind the fan noise then by all means go ahead and get it. But the Swiftech allows future expansion so if you wanna cool your GPU in the future you can expand it. You can also get H220's bigger brother the H320 if you have expansion plans in mind. Not sure if they gave H320 in stock though.

Of course with any AIO you could also replace the fan with quieter or more powerful aftermarket ones.

Casing I suggest you get a nice NZXT Source 210 from Linglong at RM150 or so.
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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 7 2014, 05:58 PM)
Not sure if the NZXT Source 210 does support 240mm radiators. In fact, I find a number of < RM200 casings do not really have such support.

Can try CM N200, at RM149 but it is limited to micro-ATX. unsure.gif
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I think it can support a 240mm or 280mm on top, but that's about it. Which is still pretty good though.

Worse comes to worse he can always get a Cooler Master Nepton 140XL which performs as good as a H100i. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 7 2014, 09:31 PM)
But the fan on the Nepton 140XL is a tad loud though. tongue.gif And also need to bear in mind that not all casings support 140mm fans on rear/top. Source 210 seems possible to mount on the top side however.
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Yeah that's why I said I think the Source can take a 240 or 280 rad on top, so the 140 shouldn't be an issue. But true also, many small cases cant take dual rads on top. Or even 140mm sizes.

I'm assuming he is ready to face the loudness of the Thermaltake 3.0 Extreme so the 140XL should be just fine. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Mar 8 2014, 12:06 AM)
Sometimes being able to fit certain sized fans does not certainly mean it can mount radiator + fans. There is a difference, especially on small budget casings. Like my old Thermaltake V3, which supposedly clears for a 120mm rear fan, turned it can't even mount a 120mm radiator + fan.

It seems that 210 can't take a 240mm radiator without some improvisations. Not sure about 140mm radiators, my only concern is that it will clash with the motherboard.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1220330/mod-nzx...00-in-push-pull
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I have seen one before and i thought it could fit a 240mm rad. But true, just because it can fit a fan doesn't mean it can fit a rad. sweat.gif

And after reading your article and looking at pictures, I don't thino a top mounted 140mm works as well. The problem with the Nepton is that it's inherently thick. Not sure if it will also face spacing issues for the top.

The rear meanwhile is a different story. I think the case can handle 120mm Rads just fine. However I do suggest getting thicker Rads to handle the 4770K's heat output.

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Dunno why he needs so much goddamn RAM, but those vengeance are high profile so i think it'll do fine.

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 9 2014, 10:18 PM)
What's in my mind now:

I still have a 120mm radiator, is brass tube + copper fins. If i get the Swiftech H220, actually i can expand the setup to 240mm top + 120mm rear radiator setup... brows.gif
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You actually can. You can even cool your GPU as well if you're willing to fork out for a Waterblock.

But the question remains. You need a bigger case. The Source 210 can't handle a 240mm rad on top. I suggest getting the NZXT Phantom 410 to fit everything. It's a nice solid case. The Corsair Obsidian 350D is also a fine choice.

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QUOTE(xelrix @ Mar 9 2014, 10:28 AM)
Budget: RM1000-2000
Purpose: dota2 and some lightweight gaming aka goty titles on low
Reusing hardware: monitor and speaker only
Monitor Resolution: lowest reso for aspect ratio 16:9 or even 4:3
Frequently used games and software: dota2 and minecraft
Personal Preferences: cheapest, bang for buck
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There, edited it for you. The members are here to recommend you the best bang for buck components, not to know whether if you think AMD is filthy or if Egypt is a shithole/unstable.

Here you go:
CPU:Intel Core i3 4130 3.4Ghz RM369
Mobo:Asus B85M-G RM279
RAM:Corsair 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz RM239
GPU: MSI N650 Ti HAWK Edition 1GB GDDR5 RM525
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM189
PSU:FSP Hexa 500W RM149
Casing:CM K380 RM149
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Total: RM1958

Quite recent hardware. Should be able to handle most lightweight gaming.

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 10 2014, 08:43 AM)
Again no to 350D. This casing is too small for me.

Ok, i expand my budget for my casing within RM300-400, In my list now:
1. Corsair Carbide 400R (Very good review in techpowerup)
2. Cooler Master RC-690 III (very good review in guru3d)

My 1st priority is CM RC-690III, the attractive point is there are 3 grommet holes for WC tubing, if let say i hook the 240mm radiator on top, most probably I will not be able to mount 120mm raditor on rear inside the casing. So i can extend the tubing outside the casing and mount the 120mm casing outside the casing.

Actually for radiator i more prefer mount outside the case like my current setup, the cooling performance is better.
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Hahahahahha. Okay okay. But you won't consider the Phantom 410? It's a pretty good case. biggrin.gif

Yeah the Corsair and CM are good mid sized caxes that would suit you fine.

As for radiator mounts, its up to you. My preference is to mount it inside. Haha.
Btw for the CM690III you can actually mount the second rad at the bottom of the case.
So Swiftech H220 pump/Waterblock > CPU > 240mm Rad > GPU > 120mm Rad > Pump/Waterblock again.

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 10 2014, 02:05 PM)
Haha, no plan to cool my ancient 6870 GPU at all as i seldom gaming and nv OC GPU.

I actually want my extra 120mm radiator give extra cooling for CPU as well.

Meaning water block/pump -> 240mm radiator -> 120mm radiator -> water block/pump. Haswell is a hot chip, i plan to OC at least 4.6Ghz, means also with high voltage, so i predict alot of heats will be generated by the chip.
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Oh. Hahaha okay. But i think the H220 by itself should be sufficient for cooling the 4770K. But again you already have the radiator. Just make sure you buy the right fittings and tubing for the loop. Primochill Advance LRT Tubing and XSPC Compressions are good cheap alternatives.

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 10 2014, 11:19 PM)
f***...my appetite is getting bigger after i come back from Jayacom at JB.

Final thought about casing and WC.

Corsair Carbide 500R + Corsair H110... doh.gif

Anway, Kingston hyperX 2400Mhz 16GB @ RM599...nice grab is it?? rclxub.gif
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA. Who ask you go self poison. Hehehe. tongue.gif

Not sure if the Carbide 500R can fit the 280mm H110 on top. I think sticking to the Swiftech H220 is still better since its at 240mm, but an extremely powerful one.. But the 500R is a good case. Lots of fans placements to keep it cool.

And bro you need make sure the RAM is not above CL10 timing. Even at 2400MhZ if its at cL11, you might as well get a 1600MHz CL9.

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 11 2014, 08:52 AM)
Can fit. Stated in official page. Just set as pull configuration will do.

I know H220 has powerful pump which can expand later on, but most probably i won't expand the setup. Yesterday i checked my left over radiator, it measure 140mm width, which most casing will not support, so basically expand using this radiator is no more possible now. Buy new radiator? Mostly i won't. So H110 maybe is better choice for me. In stock, H110 is silent, yet cooling performance is better than H220 due to larger radiator area.

As for the RAM, from what i understood, if 1600Mhz is at CL9, most probably 2400Mhz will be at CL11 (1866Mhz CL10), will look and see. But from Kingston website, yes, 2400Mhz will be at CL11. Corsair Vengeance Pro @ 2400Mhz also CL11, but is almost RM200 more than Kingston Hyper X. rclxub.gif Any concern if i use CL11 RAM for i7 4770k? The internal memory controller not support?
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Well you've pretty much made up your mind. So Corsair Carbide 500R and Corsair H110 then. Or you can get the NZXT Kraken X60 which is also the same Asetek 280mm cooler for RM399. smile.gif

Yeah pretty much. Try get tight CL9/CL10 timings and reasonable speeds of 1600Mhz and above. But of course the higher the performance of the RAM, the pricier it is. And as for support, the 4770K is fine. It's your motherboard you have to watch out for. You have to make sure it allows XMP mode or allows overclocking to fully utilize the 2400MHz. Most will run at 1600MHz stock if you don't get a mobo that allows faster speeds or turn on XMP.

I really suggest you find a nice 1600MHz CL8 or lower RAM would be sufficient. No need to get too fancy.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 11 2014, 01:29 PM)
Haiz, now the most difficult part is mobo for me.

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Please, anyone help me out...

I just want a OC oriented board with not much features, no need SLI+CF, need at least 1 PCI slot, price RM600+-...some luxury feature is welcome such as CMOS switch (Tired with clear CMOS with jumper), useful OC software in windows, why so difficult. sad.gif
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The Asrock is fine. A lot of members here use the Extreme4. My board is also a variant of the Extreme6. You're not gonna OC a lot or tweak your bios settings alot right? The Asrock will be a fine choice. But the GD45 is also a good choice if you want stable BIOs and great OCing. Or you can get its big brother the GD65. brows.gif brows.gif

But I think you mean PCi Expresss slot? All boards have PCI 3.0 slots standard.

But if you want to spend a but more check out the ASUS MAXIMUS VI HERO LGA 1150 Intel Z87 Mobo. Rock solid ASUS stability. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 11 2014, 02:35 PM)
Not PCI express (short), is old school PCI slot.(long one, slightly shorter than GPU PCIE slot)
The board you mentioned except Asrock didn come with this slot.
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Oh that old school slot. Hahaha. Again guess you've made up your mind already. Hahah. tongue.gif

Corsair 500R, Asrock Extreme6. And either the H110 of X60. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 11 2014, 04:32 PM)
Plan to buy additional SSD for RAID 0 configuration. biggrin.gif
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LOL dude, no point really. For benchmarks, yes you'll see a nice improvement, but otherwise daily usage you won't really notice it. Haha.

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 13 2014, 01:19 AM)
is it better than gigabyte gtx 660 ti?
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Definitely. The GTX660Ti is behind the 7970. So you can guess where it stands here.

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 13 2014, 01:31 AM)
how much does it cost?

does it compatible with the rig that was mention before?
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Depends on which non reference brand you get it from. Prices hover between 1.1K-1.4K.

I suggest you get the MSI R9 280X GAMING 3GB @ RM1149. The ones costing higher is no point as its too close to GTX770/R9 290 areas.

And yes it's compatible with the specs Cable707 gave you.

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 13 2014, 02:40 AM)
in other words as long as it r9 290/280/gtx770 its good right?
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More or less really. If you're a nVidia fan, get the 770. If you're on a smaller budget, get the 280X. But if you have RM1500-1600 to spare, get a non reference 290.

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 13 2014, 03:07 AM)
im sorry but what is non-reference?, mean the one by amd?.
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Reference cards are basically generic GPUs that follow either AMDs or nVidia's design with a stock coolers.

Non reference are cards made by third party brands like ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI or others who take out the stock coolers and use their own, sometimes even using custom PCBs.

To iillustrate, the back card is a reference AMD design. The front is a non rreference card by ASUS.

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