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post Feb 12 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(ken_zie @ Feb 12 2014, 06:45 PM)
After calculated, it's around 11% jump. I would like to have a change in current work environment.
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Sounds a bit low. My recent t two jumps (fellow banker here tongue.gif) was around 20% each within a few months apart. More details?
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post Feb 13 2014, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(ken_zie @ Feb 12 2014, 10:55 PM)
Yeah... I do feel so.

Well, current job is in retail banking (front line, customer services, branch operation). Have been working for 2.5 years. Previous increment was around 6%. Most colleagues are senior staff who have been working for more than 10 years who are in their own comfort zone. Can be pretty fed up with the working environment at times.

New offer.... is in trade banking. Desktop bound job working with PC and the system. Was warned of heavy workload, working on staggered hours, and Malaysia public holidays.
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Hmm, my personal feeling is that 11% for a 2.5 years experience is on the low side, but it could possibly be due to a totally new field? I was lucky to get that 20% because I was moving in to a totally new area but then again, I think I was lucky as well when I jumped after a few months to something I was more familiar with and still get another 20% bump.

Perhaps try to negotiate something higher? If it fails, you can still go back to taking the 11% so no harm trying unless they are adamant about the 11%.
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post Feb 21 2014, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(jbanya @ Feb 19 2014, 06:10 PM)
I think I am underpaid as what the boss promised (quarterly incentives) seems hard to achieve >.<

Job Title : Sales & Marketing Manager
Job Desciption : Chanel & Enterprise Sales for program & solutions; Marketing for their eCommerce business
Years spent in company : 3 months
Company : small company, only me & the director run market >.<
Industry : IT Solutions & eCommerce
Tenure : Permenant
Employment Level : Manager
Experience before joining : 10
Highest paper qualification/ education background : MBA
salary : RM5.5K (Boss verbally committed have incentive bonus but just found out they can't achieve target for the past few years) sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

p.s. helping the director manage 2 businesses. Weekends also need to meet up for discussion and midnight received email+whatsapp...
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I think this is extremely underpaid hmm.gif

With your experience and qualification alone, I'd look at more than double of what you get now.
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post Mar 28 2014, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Azurika @ Mar 28 2014, 04:16 PM)
In the Corporate World, you go through a department called HR which will use a degree as a filter.
Unless 1 is able to get in touch with the upper management, a degree is a passport to obtain a job, besides attitude and skill set.
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Not really. It might be important for an entry level job or a very technical one because it implies an basic understanding of the theoretical knowledge or simply the industry practice, but for senior roles experience and achievements far trump and degree you can flash.

Take a stock check around the successful people, you will be surprise at how little they talk or even care about a degree.
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post May 22 2014, 04:46 PM

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Job Title : Rewards Specialist
Job Desciption : Looking at the remuneration structure of the org.
Years spent in company : 5 months
Company : GLC
Industry : Finance
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior Management
Experience before joining : 2 years
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree
Salary : RM6600 + RM160 allowance + 6-8 months bonus

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post May 22 2014, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Striverly @ May 22 2014, 05:12 PM)
May I know what degree you having?
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post May 22 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ May 22 2014, 05:15 PM)
so high? are you working in Malaysia? or oversea pay? I cannot believe GLC will pay so high. mine share more?
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Not sure what you want to know. I'm in Malaysia working for a FI. I don't think my pay is high at all, in fact it's probably lower because I had a later start to my 'career' compared to some of my peers.

But I have jumped a couple of times because I didn't felt I'd hit this salary if I remained in the same place and grew organically that soon.
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post May 22 2014, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ May 22 2014, 05:46 PM)
u got degree in finance as well? working with bank, which department?
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I'm not that smart tongue.gif

Rewards is a HR component, just happened to be a specialist in a finance field at the moment. I have received offers to move cross industry (FMCG, MLM and O&G) but I'm not as keen currently.
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post May 22 2014, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(alpha team @ May 22 2014, 05:55 PM)
but RM6k with 2 years experience is really high. you are degree in actuary or wat?
Im degree in account, start work as auditor, now in advisory, salary 6k with almost 5 years experience.
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Psychology bro.

I did make 2 jumps within a year due to better pay and I do have working experience (albeit part time) during my study years smile.gif

Plus, Rewards is a specialised field, so the pay position is slightly higher compared to a generalist due to the limited pool, and if you factor in a position for a financial industry, its even fewer. Unless something drastic changes, I forsee no problem in me getting a position if I decide to jump tomorrow, even.


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post May 22 2014, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(nyra @ May 22 2014, 06:38 PM)
Hmm... this is a good pay in deed, very rare. Do you have any professional cert in hand?
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Nope, though I am exploring a Masters, hopefully soon.

I initially started in a different department before being offered a Rewards position. Subsequently I made a couple of jumps to where I am now. Having knowledge of the industry remunerations didn't hurt either wink.gif

But I have to admit I have been blessed to have been able to join and remain hired by the top tier FI, which pays much better for their specialist. It is also a big boost to my resume as I from the get go have been working regional projects which adds another element to it, as many FI's as exploring the overseas market now so they pay a premium for those with these experience.


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post May 22 2014, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(nyra @ May 22 2014, 07:13 PM)
Which GLC your are working with haha
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Not in the position to reveal too much la bro tongue.gif

But, I've been in working for the top tier FI's smile.gif
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post May 28 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ May 23 2014, 09:01 AM)
Morning fuzzy,

mind to share your work challenges ?
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Well, perhaps not a specific challenge that I face, but in general what Rewards team face.

1) Sensitivity to data - we deal in one of the most sensitive area (especially in Asia) of a workplace, your compensation. Rewards team gets access to everyone's pay data so it is crucial that they understand the importance that role and be able to keep it confidential. You won't believe how many people do try and tease out details such as how much bonus they can expect, and we have had odd cases where a spouse had called the Rewards team to try to find out how much bonus his/her partner got because they think some cheating is going on.

2) Availability of data - Pay data is hard to get at times. While you have compensation surveys around, you can face challenges in verifying those details and for some positions, no one is willing to share those details. Even between your internal counterparts, some might be hesitant to share data simply because it is sensitive in their view.

3) Reconciling what we say and what we do - In a way, I'm lucky to have spend most of my young career in areas which takes a real concern in the area of remuneration and benefits. Many large organisation (including some of the listed companies) takes HR as a largely administrative function of no value, I have gone to interviews where the organisation was just starting a rewards team and the role offered was to create and head such a team, yet they were only willing to pay my current salary.

Many organisation still doesn't see that their human capital is the most valuable asset they have and how much hidden losses they occur because they didn't bother to implement proper structures on hiring, rewarding, training and retaining talents because they were far too focus on products.

So, while it is easy for anyone to blurt out how important their people is to the organisation, getting them to really believing in that mantra and carry out initiatives that supports that mantra is really hard.

QUOTE(xpole @ May 27 2014, 05:41 PM)
If I don't have HR Degree, I can still work at HR Department? unsure.gif
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Definitely. I know some of the department heads that holds engineering degrees, some are MBA holders and you can also see some of the CEO of large companies have held some HR roles in the past. HR is more than just mere administrative, as companies begin to invest in talents, you can see some strategic functions (i.e Rewards, Talent Management, etc) popping up that requires very different skillset than the traditional HR functions.
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post Jul 22 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(algonjo_encem @ Jul 22 2014, 01:32 PM)
Now i working at Bank in Malaysia, got 4month bonus at least, yearly increment RM5++ (6-10%), my basic salary RM6000. Total Experience 5 years (2 year Sony, 3 years Bank).
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Nice, congrats rclxms.gif
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post Nov 19 2014, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Dead4Life @ Nov 19 2014, 04:33 PM)
You salary is Rm 7k but still in junior position. damn pretty good grade level your company have.
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Depending on the bank, he's either one or two level to reach Manager. 7k reflects his talent and experience, grades usually doesn't mean as much as it used to be. Some banks allow a pretty with salary range for certain grades.
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QUOTE(squall8985 @ Nov 20 2014, 02:46 PM)
Are you a Java developer as well?
Yup I'm consider a junior in my current company.
But alas i don't mind junior or senior or manager as long as at end of month you will get what you deserve.
Previously was working with 2 companies.
I can say MNC/Bank pay good salary to attract talented software engineer to join them.
In term of annual increment here I'm not sure yet. We will wait and see  whistling.gif

But i would agree with most of you that when your pay grade increase, the work/task/assignment is most likely going to be lesser  icon_idea.gif
Can post more in /k to earn 20k a month lol  rclxms.gif
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Annual increment not that hard to predict la bro, especially in Banking smile.gif

Your salary includes things like OT?
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post Nov 20 2014, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(squall8985 @ Nov 20 2014, 06:34 PM)
how much percentage usually if i may ask?
i just work here few months back

No OT. Executive title. Work for free when required  rclxub.gif
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Haven't got the full detail, but initial look would suggest a 6-10% average smile.gif

But that is subjective to your boss and your dept budget as well. Also, see which bank you work for as their pay philosophy might be different smile.gif
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QUOTE(squall8985 @ Nov 20 2014, 06:44 PM)
you are working in which field?

that would be great. but from the bank performance it seems like this year it is not making much profit.
perhaps next year less increment.
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I'm in Rewards for a FI as well wink.gif
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post Nov 20 2014, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(squall8985 @ Nov 20 2014, 06:58 PM)
Errr..what's that?
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The compensation and benefits part of HR smile.gif
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QUOTE(superbike @ Nov 25 2014, 09:15 PM)
Job Title : Carrier Trailer Driver
Job Desciption : Transport cars
Years spent in company : 11 years (since 2003)
Company : Various
Industry : Transportation
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : School teacher
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor in Education (Hons)
salary : RM 3000
Location: Sarawak and Selangor
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One of the coolest job I've heard notworthy.gif

I can only judge by my experiences of playing Euro Truck Simulator tongue.gif
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QUOTE(superbike @ Nov 27 2014, 07:30 PM)
you should drive for living mate. even with low salary, its fun. I don't care about salary income cos my wife has a stable business  thumbup.gif
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