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TSBlofeld
post Nov 18 2013, 03:35 PM, updated 13y ago

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What is the difference between pertukaran and penukaran? icon_question.gif

Eg.

Saya ingin memohon penukaran tajuk.....

or pertukaran tajuk
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post Nov 18 2013, 03:40 PM

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Pertukaran ialah perbuatan atau hal bertukar, per­gantian, perubahan, dsb bertukar-tukar(melibatkan sesuatu yang baru).
Contoh ayat, pertukaran iklim secara mengejut telah menyebabkan ia sakit.


Penukaran pula ialah perbuatan (hal dsb) me­nukar atau menukarkan.
Contoh ayat, penukaran permata asli dgn permata palsu itu dibuat secara sulit.
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post Nov 18 2013, 03:42 PM

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pertukaran = transformers! more than meets the eyes.

penukaran = uhhhhhhhh
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post Nov 18 2013, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Nov 18 2013, 03:40 PM)
Pertukaran ialah perbuatan atau hal bertukar, per­gantian, perubahan, dsb bertukar-tukar(melibatkan sesuatu yang baru).
Contoh ayat, pertukaran iklim secara mengejut telah menyebabkan ia sakit.
Penukaran pula ialah perbuatan (hal dsb) me­nukar atau menukarkan.
Contoh ayat, penukaran permata asli dgn permata palsu itu dibuat secara sulit.
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Already google that webpage.

So, change title is penukaran tajuk or pertukaran tajuk?
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post Nov 18 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 18 2013, 03:42 PM)
Already google that webpage.

So, change title is penukaran tajuk or pertukaran tajuk?
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to simply put,

pertukaran is a statement
penukaran is a process

so in your case, depends on what purpose you use. is it a statement (pertukaran tajuk) or a process (penukaran tajuk).
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post Nov 18 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(sickx @ Nov 18 2013, 03:45 PM)
to simply put,

pertukaran is a statement
penukaran is a process

so in your case, depends on what purpose you use. is it a statement (pertukaran tajuk) or a process (penukaran tajuk).
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For example:

Saya ingin memaklumkan pihak tuan tentang penukaran tajuk penyelidikan.....

atau

...tentang pertukaran tajuk....
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post Nov 18 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 18 2013, 03:35 PM)
What is the difference between pertukaran and penukaran?  icon_question.gif

Eg.

Saya ingin memohon penukaran tajuk.....

or pertukaran tajuk
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pertukaran = transforming

penukaran = exchanging
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post Nov 18 2013, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2013, 03:48 PM)
pertukaran = transforming

penukaran = exchanging
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Thanks.

I think I got it now.
sickx
post Nov 18 2013, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 18 2013, 03:46 PM)
For example:

Saya ingin memaklumkan pihak tuan tentang penukaran tajuk penyelidikan.....

atau

...tentang pertukaran tajuk....
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i think penukaran is more appropriate since you're changing the tajuk penyelidikan.

pertukaran can only be used like this:

"pertukaran tajuk penyelidikan oleh .... or pertukaran tajuk penyelidikan disebabkan ...."
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post Nov 18 2013, 03:56 PM

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dun wan himbuhan kenot meh ???

just:

Tukar Tajuk
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post Nov 18 2013, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(sickx @ Nov 18 2013, 03:53 PM)
i think penukaran is more appropriate since you're changing the tajuk penyelidikan.

pertukaran can only be used like this:

"pertukaran tajuk penyelidikan oleh .... or pertukaran tajuk penyelidikan disebabkan ...."
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post Nov 18 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 18 2013, 03:57 PM)
thanks a lot  rclxms.gif
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post Nov 18 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 18 2013, 03:35 PM)
What is the difference between pertukaran and penukaran?  icon_question.gif

Eg.

Saya ingin memohon penukaran tajuk.....

or pertukaran tajuk
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Boss you wanna change your PhD area kaa??
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post Nov 18 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 18 2013, 03:35 PM)
What is the difference between pertukaran and penukaran?  icon_question.gif

Eg.

Saya ingin memohon penukaran tajuk.....

or pertukaran tajuk
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in b4, pergi sekolah hari hari buat apa bro? tengok dinding?
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post Nov 18 2013, 05:06 PM

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1) baharu
2) bahru
3) baru

mana satu?
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This post has been edited by zem: Nov 18 2013, 05:06 PM
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post Nov 18 2013, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(bb100 @ Nov 18 2013, 04:48 PM)
Boss you wanna change your PhD area kaa??
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just refine the title only laugh.gif
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post Nov 18 2013, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 18 2013, 03:42 PM)
Already google that webpage.

So, change title is penukaran tajuk or pertukaran tajuk?
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penukaran tajuk.

change of subject

tukar topic

penukar topic forum ini adalah saya.

belukar dalam seluar saya lebat.
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post Nov 18 2013, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(zem @ Nov 18 2013, 05:06 PM)
1) baharu
2) bahru
3) baru

mana satu?
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1) johor baharu
2) bahru-ah
3) su-baru
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post Nov 18 2013, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 18 2013, 03:46 PM)
For example:

Saya ingin memaklumkan pihak tuan tentang penukaran tajuk penyelidikan.....

atau

...tentang pertukaran tajuk....
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the later..
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post Nov 18 2013, 06:23 PM

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Penukaran tajuk.
When in doubt, try to rephrase the sentence in active voice.

Saya bertukar tajuk or saya menukar tajuk?

Bertukar = pertukaran.
Menukar = penukaran.

Just like peninju vs petinju.
Orang yang bertinju = petinju (boxer)
Salim meninju Abu apabila Abu mengutuk Salim = Peninjuan berlaku di antara Salim dan Abu apabila Salim mengutuk Abu.

Inb4 boxer shorts = Seluar petinju.
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post Nov 18 2013, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Nov 18 2013, 05:51 PM)
just refine the title only  laugh.gif
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post Nov 18 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 18 2013, 03:48 PM)
pertukaran = transforming

penukaran = exchanging
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if transchanging how? biggrin.gif

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