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samkps
post Apr 14 2014, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(robert82 @ Apr 14 2014, 12:18 AM)
1st May 2014, 6.48am
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Wow... SMS alert again... doh.gif doh.gif heart attack.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Rabel @ Apr 14 2014, 02:01 PM)
Haha, Actly tis last minute sms alert really no good.
Make ppl speedy. If anything happen, I believe wil become a big big news.
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Rabel gor.. Yeah, kinda agree, but do you have any other suggestion?

Presumebly if they announce it early, then maybe one or two days before launching, you will see big bosses sending bangla queing in front of the sales gallery... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

If doing for ballot, only the "lucky one" will get it, those really wish to buy it, no chance.. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

Sometime, if we really think back, last minute sms do serves its purpose too, although it is good solution... hmm.gif hmm.gif

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post Apr 14 2014, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Apr 14 2014, 02:08 PM)
Not expecting a sold out on first day.
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Okay, if SEH can do it within 5 hours, what's the weakness of EM that you think can't make it? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Apr 14 2014, 09:06 AM)
Yeah, that linkage is very crucial. I am pretty much that linked road to NSE would be there.

Guess I need to do another rounds of site visit to know it much further. 1/2 year never go since SEH launched. Lol.
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Let's hope so. If this link road is confirmed establised, SEH / EM will become the center hub in terms of connectivity in Semenyih.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Apr 14 2014, 02:31 PM)
the entry price is much higher for EM compare to SEH...

somemore semenyih still not well develop...

600k for DSL at semenyih, dun think is easy sell out in one day in current market...
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Bro doomdoom, you have your point too..

I presume the utmost concern currently is DIBS scheme already abolished, this will somehow affect the sales too. hmm.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 14 2014, 02:55 PM)
yawor, toll and petrol sibeh not cheap. sibeh worry if go kl.

australia people now start to move back to city or closer to city... even smaller space also don't mind liao.
coz the petrol, long distance public transport not cheap liao and also city parking...1 day parking at city centre can cost them up to aus80. save save save.
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Lol, people that live nearby city will take public transport to work only? They no need to pay city parking?

Be frankly, the petrol spent for 20km travelling with smooth traffic if compare to 10km congested jam is really nothing. As a matter of fact, most of the petrol / time spent is on the jam, rather on the smooth travelling. Don't you think so? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Apr 14 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Apr 14 2014, 03:40 PM)
Hmm, I assume the entry price is slightly higher than SEH but price point could be your factor of deciding.

If we taking SEH's both 20x70 Argentea and Aquatilis as comparison, the selling price was RM 488,000 and RM 528,000 respectively. Argentea built up is 1810 sq ft while Aquatilis is 1820 sq ft thus, the price per sq ft begins at RM 270 psf or RM 290 psf onwards. The price was average RM 280 psf since 2013, and not sure for now.

EM's smallest size is 20x70 foot print and built up could be within the range of 2000-2100 built up ( about 10% bigger than SEH ), and bro fongolou posted that the price could be around RM 290 psf, which SA mentioned it is not confirmed yet.

EM is strata title with landscape at the backyard, so I expected a little bit premium over the pricing, say by 5% and there are also differentiate btw the launching date of both where SEH's price mentioned was last year, 2013 while EM's is 2014 and I dont think any developer would price the same range for a similar huge township which was able to sold out in just hours and it was an incredible response.

If we add back the 5-7% premium ( strata title cost, landscape cost, timing issue ), the average 2050 sq ft unit could be price at the range of RM 280 psf + 5-7% = RM 294 to RM 300 psf

To translate back, a 20x70 with built up 2050 sq feet should be started from RM 602,700 to RM 615,000

If the developer launch it at below RM 600k, I guess-ing the que would be as long as how SEH sold the cakes in hours time.
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Bro chris Chew, your calculation has the rationale too.

But the SEH prices is set based on DIBS scheme, does this give some impact on the EM entry price too, since it is a non-DIBS housing project? hmm.gif hmm.gif

5% of 600k (~30k) is the amount they need to top up within the construction period, plus the 60k downpayment, I presume this will somehow gives some impact on the sales too..

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post Apr 14 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Apr 14 2014, 03:46 PM)
DIBS is really a big hand to the developer in clearing the stocks.. hehehe...

In the other way, pure buyers claim it could reduce the speculators.
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True bro Chris, that's why we don't know how many are flippers and how many are pure buyers in SEH too.

A little insight on the impact of non-DIBS shall prevail in the EM launching I suppose, let's see the sales hot scene in SEH will be repeated again later... hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif


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post Apr 14 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 14 2014, 04:01 PM)
not all. those got ahmad and sibeh can pay one.
but more people will choose public transport.
you sibeh got option..unless you can pay sibeh high parking rate.
nobody stop anyone not to park. as long as you can pay city parking rate.

petrol 20KM or 10KM?  aiya during working hour when u almost reach also jam sama sama jialat only. only different is  long distance + jam later... add on only.
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Oic, then those people who stay in Puchong / Setia Alam / Kota kemuning who currently don't have transport, should they move to KL too... doh.gif doh.gif

Petrol for congested 10km: RM 15
Time taken for congested 10km: 1 hour

Petrol for 20km smooth traffic: RM 4
Time take for 20km smooth traffic: RM 20 minutes.

So you just pay RM 4 extra plus 20 minutes drive, but can have a decent dsl landed house, why not? doh.gif doh.gif


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post Apr 14 2014, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Apr 14 2014, 04:06 PM)
Looks like there are many experts here that have given valid reasons. I am learning more here.
The main points are highlighted here. The minor points are omitted.

1. No DIBs
2. Interest from Chinese investors not clear after MH 370 incident management hiccup.
3. Semenyih still infancy stage
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1. No DIBs - government punya pasal
2. Interest from Chinese investors not clear after MH 370 incident management hiccup. - MAS punya pasal
3. Semenyih still infancy stage - When SEH is launched, Semenyih is a bit more than zygote stage only..


Poor EW... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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post Apr 14 2014, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 14 2014, 04:40 PM)
add on cost mah. petrol naik harga ler. setia alam, puchong to kl not jam meh?

this is not should or should not lar....is a option for people.
you can stay as far as you like. as long as you can pay higher cost of transport.
just recently look like the aussie people change lifestyle due to higher petrol, city car park rate and long distance transport fee.... and more people come back stay somewhere closer to city.

ic. is 20km smooth traffic. rm4 per trip.
hope next type of elertic or hybrid car can replace. save more.
car park naik harga ler. not evryone can afford to park at city. car park keep naik harga.
my city condo now 2nd car park rate from rm80 jump to rm150 per month liao. 3rd car park start from rm180.
stay closer take mrt or lrt can save 5 days car park fee.
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True, option mah, you have the choice to choose want or don't want loh..

There will be 3 MRT stations in Kajang, all about 10km from the Semenyih area, giving more choice to the residents. Just worry when people starting taking the public transport, parking rate at the MRT station will be high too... doh.gif doh.gif


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post Apr 14 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 14 2014, 10:51 PM)
parking rate at MRT go high. Take bus to mrt lo... Kakaka. See which affordable and convenient lo.
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Bus pun traffic jam woh, how??? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Apr 15 2014, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 15 2014, 02:11 AM)
how? take car also lagi traffic jam lar.  laugh.gif
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Lol, Ampang, Cheras, Kuchai lama, Puchong, Subang Jaya, PJ, Damansara, Mont Kiara, Bandar Manjalara, Sentul, Wangsa Maju, Setapak, all these townships also everyday jam jam jam, whether got public transport or no public transport, but people still staying there loh...

Why? Coz people no choice already and have to use to jam loh... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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post Apr 15 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 15 2014, 09:39 AM)
what u talking...siao? the places u mention close to kl ler. thats why people try stay close to KL as close as possible mah.
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Hello gor, your talking similar to our bro BBW bomoh.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

Close to KL then how? Perhaps you just reach your KL office 20 minutes earlier than me loh, correct?

As return, I get a decent landed house with good environment loh, why not? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 15 2014, 10:00 AM)
jam? jam and close to kl is ok. normal. and people stay close to kl. jam ong.
jam stay sibeh far drive far and when close to kl also jam. sibeh jialat
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Oic, I get your principle now.

Come out from house, jam till destination: okay, no problem and can used to it.

Come out from house, smooth drive for 20 minutes, jam till destination: sibeh jialat, sure will die...

So those stay in Puchong / Kota Kemuning / Setia alam can never work in KL, coz sibeh jialat as well.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 15 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 15 2014, 11:07 AM)
semenyih be like PJ in 5 years... sibeh hard ler. and can never macam PJ.
maybe 10 years + when semenyih become like what PJ 10 years ago.
but PJ maybe after 10 year more canggih ler. also well connect mrt and lrt
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Hello @ BBW gor...

Compare puchong 10 years ago and now, even it is not catching up PJ I presume, but can Semenyih achieve this stage within 10 years then?

Broken crystal ball show time... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif




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post Apr 15 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 15 2014, 11:29 AM)
at most klang valley soon they have more option mah. lrt and mrt can go. no need just drive car.

not about can never work lar. macam u decide and make conclusion liao.
need more time on travel lor u sendiri oledi mention lo.
which people think whether it worth it or not lor for long run.
in return u get the landed house but far away from kl. instead of condo at kl, pj or klang valley which most people can only afford...in exchange shorter distant + better public transport system.
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Hello gor, that's up to personal preference loh...

If you are okay staying with small space, dun mind sharing land, sharing facilities, sharing car park space, but very mind to drive further everyday to work, then pick up those condo nearer to KL loh.

But if you would like to live in a more spacious room with good environement, and have own piece of land, two car park spots in front of your living hall, but need to drive 20 minutes further, then pick those further landed house loh..

Personal preference right? For you, you like type 1, but for me I like type 2 mah...

So, both also got pros and cons woh, if first type can success, why second type fated to fail? doh.gif
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 15 2014, 11:51 AM)
puchong place got cyberjaya, putrajaya and subang not far away as booster.
also reasonable distant to kl + lrt connect from puchong, subang to kl.
and puchong is part of the klang valley. PJ also and even have MRT.

semenyih pretty hard to reach macam puchong or PJ. for next 5-10 years.
but only nice and decent lifestyle G&G landed.
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BBW gor, puchong mana got LRT now??? doh.gif doh.gif After extension got lay... The booming of Puchong is not rely on LRT woh... doh.gif doh.gif

Distant from Puchong to KLCC is about 5km shorter than from Semenyih to KLCC woh, so that is reasonable distant? Further 5km is not reasonable at all? tongue.gif tongue.gif

Puchong to Putrajaya also similar from Semenyih to Putrajaya lah, even different also a few km extra lah... shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

Semenyih also close to Kajang / Cheras which is booming mah, no?? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Apr 15 2014, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 15 2014, 12:18 PM)
aiyo. lrt of coz later when complete lar. oledi buidling there mah. unless only talk nothing there.

which part of puchong to klcc? and puchong soon to have lrt. more easy to reach many townships, masjid jamek. for interchange and so on.

not so similar.. but semenyih consider still ok to putrajaya but a bit far to cyberjaya. still need to pass kajang and bangi.

and puchong locate at more west middle of klang valley. which make it better position. semenyih is east south and out of klang valley. but also consider closest to klang valley.

semenyih closer to kajang east and cheras south east.
but kajang and especially cheras got well mrt connection in future.
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Lol, Puchong already booming till establish now mah, that's why extension now go to Puchong now. Can you sure 10 years from now, there will be no public transport to Semenyih? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Lol, distant wise about similar lah my fren. Yamah, 3 MRT stations in Kajang woh..

Bro, you are good at prediction... Let's see the condition like this ya..

10 years from now, Cheras, Bangi/Putrajaya, Kajang, Semenyih, will be like today PJ, Shah Alam, Subang, Puchong already.

Ada rationale mou, bomoh BBW? tongue.gif tongue.gif


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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 15 2014, 01:02 PM)
puchong oledi booming lar. thats why lor puchong get more well connect mah.

Semenyih public transport for lrt or mrt?  bus sure ada. 10 years from now chansi quite slim?
unless when they start building mrt2 or mrt3 which can only complete by 2020+ andthat time sudah ada plan for Semenyih....

u can predict better than me. i only see what is going on only. which mrt1 and lrt sudah in progress. and mature puchong, pj township will getting well connect. mrt2 and mrt3 wait to confirm. if everything accordingly should make the whole klang valley well connect to kl and other prime places.

semenyih still need some time which i also unsure for certain things. sound like u sibeh can predict well than me.
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Lol, future is very hard to predict lah my friend, I can't predict anything. I just try to associate those establish township with current Semenyih now.

If you only see what is going on only, then most likely 10 years ago you also have the similar comment on Puchong / Kota Kemuning / Setia Alam as well.

Well, let's just see how it goes it 10 years time.. tongue.gif tongue.gif



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