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Chris Chew
post Apr 14 2014, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Apr 13 2014, 10:45 PM)
Ya, commercial area near future LEKAS interchange, those with white color high rise shown on the master scale model

SA told me no need ballot...not sure how true
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I dont think it is ballot.
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post Apr 14 2014, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Apr 13 2014, 08:36 PM)
No clubhouse for EM? Then whats make it different and better than SEH?
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Yes, if not mistaken n like wat bro sam said, no clubhouse and there would be a sportscomplex.

Stratified G&G vs individual title F&G can be have some differences.

IMO, both are equally good and rely on individual preference.

Other differences could be the built up area is slightly bigger and backyard is landscape instead of tar road.
If SEH back yard is standard 10" long, then EM would be 15" feet.
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post Apr 14 2014, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Apr 14 2014, 11:04 AM)
Chris gor interested on EM?
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A bit interested due to my preference to buy or own a stratified landed, the entry price within my level and good master plan in such big spanning township.

Most of the strata title landed in KV, I couldn't afford anymore.

See if I manage or else, could have to wait for next phase. Get loan now is very very huge task for me.
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post Apr 14 2014, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Apr 14 2014, 02:31 PM)
the entry price is much higher for EM compare to SEH...

somemore semenyih still not well develop...

600k for DSL at semenyih, dun think is easy sell out in one day in current market...
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Hmm, I assume the entry price is slightly higher than SEH but price point could be your factor of deciding.

If we taking SEH's both 20x70 Argentea and Aquatilis as comparison, the selling price was RM 488,000 and RM 528,000 respectively. Argentea built up is 1810 sq ft while Aquatilis is 1820 sq ft thus, the price per sq ft begins at RM 270 psf or RM 290 psf onwards. The price was average RM 280 psf since 2013, and not sure for now.

EM's smallest size is 20x70 foot print and built up could be within the range of 2000-2100 built up ( about 10% bigger than SEH ), and bro fongolou posted that the price could be around RM 290 psf, which SA mentioned it is not confirmed yet.

EM is strata title with landscape at the backyard, so I expected a little bit premium over the pricing, say by 5% and there are also differentiate btw the launching date of both where SEH's price mentioned was last year, 2013 while EM's is 2014 and I dont think any developer would price the same range for a similar huge township which was able to sold out in just hours and it was an incredible response.

If we add back the 5-7% premium ( strata title cost, landscape cost, timing issue ), the average 2050 sq ft unit could be price at the range of RM 280 psf + 5-7% = RM 294 to RM 300 psf

To translate back, a 20x70 with built up 2050 sq feet should be started from RM 602,700 to RM 615,000

If the developer launch it at below RM 600k, I guess-ing the que would be as long as how SEH sold the cakes in hours time.

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post Apr 14 2014, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Apr 14 2014, 03:18 PM)
Bro doomdoom, you have your point too..

I presume the utmost concern currently is DIBS scheme already abolished, this will somehow affect the sales too.  hmm.gif
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DIBS is really a big hand to the developer in clearing the stocks.. hehehe...

In the other way, pure buyers claim it could reduce the speculators.


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post Apr 14 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Apr 14 2014, 03:48 PM)
Bro chris Chew, your calculation has the rationale too.

But the SEH prices is set based on DIBS scheme, does this give some impact on the EM entry price too, since it is a non-DIBS housing project?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

5% of 600k (~30k) is the amount they need to top up within the construction period, plus the 60k downpayment, I presume this will somehow gives some impact on the sales too..
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Yes bro sam, DIBS definitely giving some impact. That's why I using 5% difference only, or else, I maybe use 10% bcz I notice most stratified projects are price even higher. Even EM now is individual title, if I am developer, I would easily set at 10% higher price but to maintain the same built up as SEH to have attractive price point

The problem is we dunno the actual pricing of EM yet and the discount is unknown, lol, perhaps we draw a line later on when the price is reveal?

I think progressive interest is not a big issue as it paid by monthly over the short course but one should not fully determine by DIBS to escape whatever cost incurred now due to DIBS price was factor into the purchase price. And most of all, DIBS is already a past tense.

Furthermore, I still see most landed are sold very well this year. Emerald in TTDI Alam Impian, Bdr Rimbayu by IJM, Elmina's by Sime Darby, Bdr Bukit Raja by Sime Darby and few more.

I prefer they giving some discount, but hopefully not 10% discount. This will impact the project owners' quality or the profile as the EM buyers too where most buyers are simply enter with lowest possible cash mode.

However, I maybe wrong too.
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post Apr 14 2014, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Apr 14 2014, 04:06 PM)
Looks like there are many experts here that have given valid reasons. I am learning more here.
The main points are highlighted here. The minor points are omitted.

1. No DIBs
2. Interest from Chinese investors not clear after MH 370 incident management hiccup.
3. Semenyih still infancy stage
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1. DIBS should not be a big issue for me.
2. Har? MH370 incident? No opinion. I rather to buy a project without a large group of China-man investors.
3. Hmm, maybe
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post Apr 14 2014, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Apr 14 2014, 04:21 PM)
i will be very happy if the long queue happens as well when the EM launch..this proven the SEH and EM already create a momentum at this area and the hope for the population grow at this part of semenyih is in good path...

when population grow, the commercial will start come up, when commecial and population in good uo trend, guess what..the price also keep growing up... whistling.gif
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Hmm, not sure about the momentum bcz one launch with almost 1000 units is not an easy task, if EW is going to launch last year end, I am pretty sure the momentum is pretty high like how the response from public in their Eco Botanic and Eco Sky ...

If I am to buy into SEH / EM, I reckon I need to hold at least 2 years after VP and assume to prepare without any rental income.

I also think that SEH Phase 1 buyers could be there and if EM do well, this is a really good news to the SEH buyers. Or else, I don't think SPS will be able to launch the next phase next year, with bigger size and even higher price.
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post Apr 15 2014, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Apr 15 2014, 02:11 AM)
how? take car also lagi traffic jam lar.  laugh.gif
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Jam? Yes, pls jam kao kao. I love to buy prop at jam kao kao location.

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post Apr 15 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Apr 15 2014, 10:59 PM)
Well, i vested in semenyih, but i also dun think semnyih can become next PJ in next 10 years,

Pj is at very unique location, fully develop with residential, commerical, education, public transport......

No place can beat PJ for the next 20 years exclude kl city center,,,,
Semenyih most likely will become like sg long/setia alam/kota kemuning in next 5-10 years....a stand alone township development....ppl will forget to call this place as semenyih but will call it as setia eco hill...

Just like setia alam, nobody will mention is shah alam or meru.....but only cal it as setia alam...
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Seconded your comment....

For me, not necessary must be like PJ, it was a fact that PJ at a very strategic location and a very matured & old township.

It is not bad to be like Setia Alam, Kota Kemuning or Puchong if within 10 years time.

I also very agree that after 10 years, ppl would call it SEH or EM instead of Semenyih.

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post Apr 17 2014, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Apr 16 2014, 08:22 PM)
Boss chew, plan to buy eco majestic? No bad got 600k  DsL gated guarded....
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Boss, plan only. I always a stratified landed fansi.

Not afford to buy Desa Park City , so ma, have to find those below RM 600k since I believe the potential of G&G is there esp for such nice and huge township.

If you know, SEH next phase no longer small sizes and such price, see if to enter now or wait next 1-2 more phases.
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post Apr 17 2014, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Apr 17 2014, 09:49 AM)
I am thinking DSL 22x75, 2200 sf with full clay brick walls and ceramic roof tiles. Fenced and Gated layout for Resident Association to organise the security arrangements. Price should be 549,900.
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Wahhh, if 22x75 and built up 2200 at RM 549,900 for EM. My frens and i would be the first one to buy without thinking.

SEH 22x75 with built up less than 2000 sq ft already sold at RM 583k onwards, and this is last year price with good response.

Btw, if F&G then u should wait SEH. EM is fully G&G.
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post Apr 17 2014, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Apr 17 2014, 01:36 PM)
Why not?

549K +- 10% loh.
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Haha ...
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post Apr 17 2014, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Apr 17 2014, 05:50 PM)
Chris kor,

549k + 10% = starting rate of 20' x 70' lo ... tongue.gif
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Maybe lower lehh.

Hmm, I eager to know the 22x70 or 24x80.

I like cluster but too deep cash flow for me now.
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post Apr 17 2014, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Apr 17 2014, 06:06 PM)
24 x 75 = close to 800k onwards

It's bu is bigger than cluster 32' x 70' n cluster is starting from 800k++
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Yes, I think so since they built the house to the end and I only reckon 3 feet land at the back for washing machine or buffer zone to the landscape.

Means if 22 ft allocated at car porch, the house would be quite long at ( 55x24 ) x 2 storey = easily 2500-2700 sq ft. The built up is gonna be big.

Btw, Precinct I think dont have 24x75, but 24x80

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post Apr 17 2014, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Apr 17 2014, 09:57 PM)
Bro chris chew, do you mind to list the units available for precint 1 of EM, including the size if possible?

Many thanks..
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20x70, 22x70, 22x75, 24x80 ( or maybe changed to 24x75 like TKJ mentioned )
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post Apr 17 2014, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Apr 17 2014, 10:02 PM)
I remember leng lui show me 24' x 75' leh, itu eunice. But let me double check again
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Hmm, then I dunno lehh, maybe changed?
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post Apr 17 2014, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 17 2014, 10:09 PM)
22ft is very short, not my favorite porch length, cram
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Hehe, boss. Not sure, I just assume only. But for such standard small size landed with G&G, I think 22' feet is fine for me since 50" frontage, bigger internal built up and probably maintenance fee based on unit instead of per sq ft.

MR2 only 20 ft long for car porch.

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post Apr 18 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Apr 18 2014, 07:53 AM)
Lol, i presume your working place maybe very close to train station, that's why so support on public transport. If your working place is about 400-500m away from the station, how many people willing to walk? Raining how? Is it safe to walk back to the train station if let say you back from office around 8pm? Furthermore, sometime the place you stay and your office may don't have direct train, you may need goto interchange station and then walk across and wait for train again, that's take time too. How about LRT to Monorail? Walk and rush.. doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

You also need to ensure your kid school suppose to be around train station as well, otherwise you may need to turn back to train station, and guess what.. jam.. Most of the good township at outskirt has school nearby, no problem on that.

How about if husband and wife are working nearby? So, one car can feed two people, take public transport? Can, double the fees loh..

If you taking public transport, you will lose your commutability, die die also staying nearby office vicinity. If your working place got variety food xpe, if not everyday you take your lunch there until vomit also need take there as well..  doh.gif  doh.gif 

One more thing, MRT also extended to outskirt city mah, if you think public transport is more convenient, then drive to the nearby station and take loh.. I presume the people stay nearby KL also mostly drive to train station. As a matter of fact, those people on board near the terminal station still many places to sit and still can rest on the train. Those living nearby KL when boarding to train, be prepared to be sardined and stand along the way to your destination lah. Imagine after sardined and standing in the train for 15 - 20 minutes and still need to walk 500m to your office EVERY WORKING DAY.. Make sure your office have bath facility ya, otherwise you may need to start your working day with "sticky" mode ya..  doh.gif  doh.gif  Maybe good for your health bro, those fitness center can close shop..

Bro, use common sense lah, public transport already there for some times already. If it really works, KL won't be more and more jam nowadays. If really one day city parking is raised to unreasonable rate, people who stay nearby KL and taking public train also need to worry. Why? Coz the terminal of these train will be in outskirt area, and people in these already will already fill up the train before reaching your destination!! You slow slow wait lah. If for me, I will still driving even pay high parking rate, coz during that time, KL no more jam mah (I must be dreaming), all go to take public train already... tongue.gif 
Walau, how many shopping malls can match the city shopping mall like MV/Garden/Pavillion/KLCC in terms of variety? You thought those crowd in this shopping mall only consists people staying in KL only ah? So, the conclusion is you still need to drive to KL, paying high rate parking fees during weekend, especially when you already have a family.  doh.gif  doh.gif 

I also hope can buy a house within walking distance to KLCC to avoid jam and taking public transport. But like our BBW said, boh lui mah... What to do, boh lui mah need sacrifice abit loh, either time, toll, petrol loh..
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Sam kor, I always thought I am very patience enough to explain but now. I really salute ur patience even more.

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post Apr 18 2014, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Apr 17 2014, 11:19 PM)
20x70, 22x70, 22x75, 24x80 ( or maybe changed to 24x75 like TKJ mentioned )
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Like TKJ source, 24x80 confirmed changed to 24x75


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