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post Nov 23 2013, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(yusiang @ Nov 23 2013, 03:13 AM)
You are the one getting so excited about BN government, I didn't even mention anything about corruption. What I said is that Singapore has limited land and their policy attracts expats, I am sure that the forumers here understand simple statement like that.
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Why cant we compare malaysia and singapore? To be specific we are talking about KL city in gneral right? So the heart of KL got a lot of land? Ok lets not talk about KL, how about land in subang? Or shah alam?..

Can always buy cheap in Malaysia. Try bukit beruntong.

Dont talk down on property in Malaysia please. If you want cheap, always can, if you want good place to live then prepare to buy it at premium price.
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post Nov 23 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Nov 23 2013, 03:50 PM)
Bro, the frequency of your posting seems that you are desperate to buy cheap properties  laugh.gif

Don't worry, your time will come. Many people have been waiting for the crash since 3-4 years ago. So, it won't be long  thumbup.gif
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Miss that old thread
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post Nov 23 2013, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(ebee33 @ Nov 23 2013, 05:17 PM)
Singapore's land is limited, so it is not a good comparison.
A majority of Malaysians' salaries are stagnant, so there is a limit to the ability of our population to absorb the continuously price increase of property.

To most Malaysians, there is a already a mismatch between what they earn and the high property prices.
There is no point comparing to other countries, as their population has high standard of living + high income, e.g. Hong Kong and Singapore.
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There we go again people saying wrong to cmpare malaysia with singapore. Hey everybody here...KL ni besar sangat keeee?
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post Nov 23 2013, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Nov 23 2013, 10:33 PM)
KL has a hinterland. There is still land in cyberjaya, kajang...etc

Singapore doesn't. Neither does HK.

China and Johore does not count as hinterland.

There is a huge difference.
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Yeah try and buy property in bukit bintang then. What i am saying good areas will have prime price.

Cyberjaya is selangor i believe.

My point was again, KL and i mean prime KL areas are very limited, same as singapore. Want to compare the whole of Malaysia, hey can buy at bukit beruntong.

Kajang is rising in price but wont be as expensive as properties near kampong pandan.

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post Nov 24 2013, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Nov 24 2013, 08:33 AM)
Dude what I meant was in kL you not necessarily live in kl in order to enjoy its economic activities and leisure activities as there is ample land at greater kl that is well connected and easy to drive and travel into. And they are relatively close to each and other

Kl and kajang for example is still within the same country. If you live in kajang and work in kl, you need not present a passport to go into kl to work and vice versa.

Singapore and Johore is 2 different countries. Hence Johor is not Singapore's hinterland. Hence Singapore has very limited land. Likewise for hong kong.

That is why your argument about land in kl as compared to singapore is inaccurate. Kl can rely on land in selangor to grow while Singapore and HK cannot.

Thus your argument for skyrocketing prices for kl is not accurate when you compare it to Singapore.
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Brother,
Then i am saying that for the whole of malaysia to compare with singapore, we still hav cheap land in bukit beruntong. Get it?

In KL prime areas will be very expensive, they are very limited. Ergo skyrocketing price. Must remember that singapore was once Malaysia. Not comparable enuff?

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post Nov 24 2013, 09:47 PM

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Lets put it this way. We have 30 million population in Malaysia and most of these middle class rich people in Malaysia wants a piece of prime land in KL. Not to mention Singaporeans who buy properties in KL. What happens to the property in KL then? And i reiterate, prime land in KL is very limited.

Singaporeans all 5 million of them are competing with each other to buy property in the singapore island. And correct me if i am wrong, all land in sgpore are leasehold.

Now malaysia, still can get freehold. And in KL too get freehold but buy at premium price. Having said thats, still chepaer compared to sgpore lands that are all leasheold. U guys try analysing it that way. IMO, prime property in KL right now are at the correct price and it is stagnant. If drop it wont be a major crash.
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post Nov 24 2013, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(realcyma @ Nov 24 2013, 09:40 PM)
KL vs Kajang; Singapore vs Johor; HK vs Shenzhen.  I don't see any difference; and it is a good comparison.
Whether Singapore and Johor is same country or not, it doesn't matter.

If Singaporean need to apply visa or do a lot of red tape for every trip to Johor; then it will be matter.  But, they are free to come and go; then, it just the matter of COSTING.  the cost of the travel time.  Same as Kajang people work in KL, it just the matter of travel time.

Then, it goes to the justification and personal preference of travel time cost vs property cost. some people want to pay more on the property instead of wasting time in travel; some prefer to pay less in property have to suffer the cost of travel.

So, whether propriety price will stop rise in KL and all go to Kajang?  It is not a yes/no question.  It is a statistical question, and the answer is HOW MUCH and HOW MANY.  The answer is the distribution of how many people willing to pay how much travailing cost to live at Kajang.

In the mean time, I feel that there are still a lot of people willing and able to live in KL or very near KL, instead of outskirt. it just my feeling, I do not have precise statistic, and I dont think anyone have precise data, even government.
If you feel compare KL vs Kajang to Singapore vs Jahor is not good; how about compare to New York vs Detroit.
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Right on the dot. As i said it is comparable.
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post Nov 24 2013, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Nov 24 2013, 08:50 PM)
KL is not meant to be as expensive as Singapore because Singapore has a genuine shortage of land compared to kl.

KL has room to expand into greater kl hence high prices in the city centre is not justified as compared to Singapore.
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Of ourse but the outskirt of KL wil not be the same price as in the heart of KL.

That is what Iskandar is all about, trying to make Iskandar as almost a part of Singapore, ie for singapore to expand itselves. Badawi once said that he suggested a singapore minister to be an advisor for the development of Iskandar but mahathir shot the idea down, which is the correct move. Malaysia should be govern by malaysian not outsiders.

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post Nov 24 2013, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Nov 24 2013, 10:09 PM)
Look at how good we have govern ourselves  doh.gif

people say see you at 3 already [referring to the exchange rate]
whats is so shameful about getting proper help ?
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We have good brilliant people. Unfortunately they are not in BN. And it is shameful because we do not need anybody's interference to mind our business. They say advising but of course it interfering. I want to plant a tree in my backyard, then suddenly the neighbour says i should not plant the tree because they dont like the view of the tree. Well that is not my problem.
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post Nov 24 2013, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Nov 24 2013, 10:18 PM)
there is a malay phrase for it. malu bertanya sesat selamanya
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Bertanye boleh tapi jangan paksa nak ikut. JWW Birch was killed because of this. They say it is advising but in reality they are trying to take control.
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post Nov 24 2013, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Kevin Chan @ Nov 24 2013, 11:17 PM)
advise is ask to confirm the knowledge that you have. of course you don't ask advise from people that have no knowledge. if you want to plant tree you ask from your neighbor that have a big nice tree.

now you plant on your own and its stunted + damage your house cause the root is too close. what else you want.

we all begin the same.
Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, Singapore have landmass that is even combine cannot fight Malaysia
We speak 3 of the most spoken language in the world, Tamil, Chinese & English
We have natural resource that trumpt all the 5 little dragon
We are totally natural disaster free ... apart from our self made flood

How did we get lagged behind ?

not asking you to listen to them but ask for help and confirm if your knowledge is correct, if not ask why, what is the difference in assumption, look at what people has already done, even if you don't get 100%, getting 60% same result also not bad mah. no need to cover the head and try everything on your own. someone somewhere has already done it before, look and just copy.
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Asking is oK of course but badawi i suggested to have a special department from sgpore to help ( they say help but is actually controlling) to govern Iskandar. Cmon no good leader will accept that. Badawi was weak. Ask england if they want france to help them in governing london. Do u think they will accept? We should be smart here, i myself will never agree somebody come to my house and then insist and forced me to cut down my tree.
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post Nov 24 2013, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Elway @ Nov 24 2013, 11:37 PM)
I dont think it's about malu to ask for help, but reluctant to let non-Malaysian into position of power.

I'm pretty sure M'sia gomen dont mind asking for help/advice, just want to keep things 'within the family' so to speak
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It is also a strategical concern. It involves the security of the country. Althought mahathir was a failed leader, he understood the implication,abdullah badawi was too dumb to realize dat. Anyway the idea was scrapped.
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jan 2 2014, 11:08 PM)
Lol. Then explain how can I build a house at RM140k be built again at the price of RM150k after one year?

But condos sold from RM90k (4~5 years ago) suddenly become 600k+ wor... Build up more the less the same, only glamour name, freehold (actually pretty useless for condos), free this and that, add discount, become 500K+!!!

Wow, I don't know who yang otak jam now. 20 years stock market how many points important ka... Then why we got recession during 1987, 1998, and 2008 ah?
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Where did you build your house? Bukit Beruntong?

And i suppose the condo you give example is in KL.

In the end it is always location location location.
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post Jan 4 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(goldchris @ Jan 4 2014, 10:05 AM)
http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-li...or-sale-4341821

http://www.propertyguru.com.my/property-li...or-sale-4341821

huiyo masih ada pai seh ya i cont here, if u are DDD just see la, huiyo cheaper than prima no house meh? if u are DDD but BBB rich man then ignore me la wahaha
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They cant accept that they have missed the boat and pray for a crash. I give example of cheap properties on the other deleted thread a few times already, but still they dont want to buy and very picky. Hey bukit beruntong house also very cheap what. Well they can wait for the never ending crash that just never comes. Except for crash like in bukit beruntong. That will be more area specific, but for the whole of KL to crash? Very in ur dreams.

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post Jan 4 2014, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2014, 11:18 AM)
Ofcourse lohh.. u bumi buyers enjoy another 7 percent discount maa.. maybe tell us how big is your ananya maluri unit lahh.. how many ppl are staying there.. last year I check developer selling RM575K...

can you enlighten us with the occupancy level..  even it is next to jusco maluri and maluri LRT station..there.. less than 20 percent... mind you the HIGH TENSION cable.. generating from power housr next to maluri station.. ya.

if bettet pray hard price stagnant.. if we wrong wr nothing to lose.. if you wrong pay installments lor if low end 2 rooms 575 k say 2.5k only per month loan alone... 3 rooms and above 750k ...how u renting amanya out..  2 rooms 1 room 1 k? Or modified the stor yo become anothet room I saw that...

Confident .. please go ahead.. amanya just like pertama residency and LIDO residency coming up.. sure all sold but vacant...
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No difference with the discount becuase not all the bumi units were taken by the bumis. What does that tell you?

Goes back to what i said, location location location. Dunt buy fine, buy la at bukit beruntong. Very cheap there.
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post Jan 4 2014, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2014, 12:21 PM)
7 % no different? maybe u can fork out another 7 percent assuming it is RM575 K.. 7 PERCENT IS how much ah...40k? easily.. NO DIFFERENCE??? MAYBE u can enlighten us with the size of your unit and your expected rental yields?

most here are gen y x or even later gen y and x.. no one mention especially maluri area those 4 storey shop houses just in front of amanya how much they have slump down during 1997.. hmm malauri area is famous with their high tension cable so high that even adjacent offices if you touch any metal components like photostatt machine u will get a shock dont belive ask CIMB maluri..
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Yo man, early bird the price is not 575k laa. So not much difference. Even without the discount, the bumis who wants to buy still can buy and some of them do buy with no discount. Got reason for bumi buy but no discount. And Yield? Well just say as long as more than a few hundred than my installment then i am fine. Thats my strategy. I dont look at yield.

Your post i see always exaggerate too much eg high tension cable laaa. Been living there since i was born. I am still alright.
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And the discount for amaya was 5% and not 7%. So as i said not much difference
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post Jan 4 2014, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jan 4 2014, 12:52 PM)
Reading between the lines, the amaya unit is neither sold nor rented out?
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Its not supposed to be sold and offers for rent is there but not to my liking
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2014, 12:43 PM)
problem is occupancy level only 20 percent for now.. expecting sun velocity to give you breath of hope SUN VELOCITY ITSELF have service apartment di.. keep on expecting 1k for 1 ROOM and increase of 10% per year haha..

wah No see yeild.. means loaded why even bother taking here this exclude ppl with load of cash.. how many are cash load.. oH for long term investment laa how much u going to sell your 2 room studio say in 5 years time? 1 million?

bumi lots confirm no one buy.. no bumi interested.. really no offence but most selangor projects have bumi lots but alwayls not sold and developer pay fine and then sell back to bumi..

how much is initial selling rpice my friend enlighten us.... MAYBE U QUOTE THE PRICE.. the ASK YOURSELF.. WILL you wanted to buy it BACK WITH THE SAME PRICE...???

still above 500k MAA 2 rooms .. still cheap wat... south ville also selling 300k plus wat KL SOUTH.. 3 ROOMS
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Well just to answer the price part. When i bought 719 was 380k and the 920 was 420k. With this price i still buy it back.
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And to highlight again. Early bird got 20k discount as well and i met malton staff, they say for them they get 40k discount. So top off wit 5% bumi, not much difference. Non well off bumi who think it was expensive still wont buy.

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