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Investment 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market, Property Investment

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post Jan 2 2014, 07:16 PM

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Desperate times lah, they will say anything
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post Jan 4 2014, 12:52 PM

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Reading between the lines, the amaya unit is neither sold nor rented out?
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post Jan 4 2014, 07:54 PM

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Read both sides and make one's own decision lor.
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post Jan 5 2014, 10:39 AM

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See, no one will ever admit theyre bull. But their arguments indicate they go in one direction.
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post Jan 6 2014, 09:30 PM

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To put it in an ironic way, the demographic that enjoys clubbing is likely too poor to live near good clubbing areas whereas those who could afford those areas tend to look for more peaceful districts biggrin.gif
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post Jan 7 2014, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Jan 7 2014, 01:47 PM)
property bubble makes people think they are "rich" therefore they spend on luxury items ... Logical?
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I think they go in tandem but one doesnt necessarily cause the other. Like the other reply said its easy credit that makes people 'feel' rich
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post Jan 7 2014, 05:43 PM

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There is a shortage - of affordable housing. There is an oversupply of high-priced condos. Building more high end condos will not solve the shortage.
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post Jan 7 2014, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(chengcheng @ Jan 7 2014, 07:50 PM)
I totally agree with you.

Now all new projects,mall selling more than RM 1000 psf.. Sub standard but at that prices.

Scary..
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Yeah it would be worth something if those flats were fitted with some top end fittings instead of generic stuff
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post Jan 8 2014, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Jan 8 2014, 01:08 PM)
i read online news,

in Q2 2013, transaction down but value maintain (meaning price still UUU) ... can shed some lights on it?
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Means only rich ppl buying tongue.gif
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post Jan 9 2014, 12:32 AM

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^ I believe those buying in those areas got in at the tail's end of the boom. But they're convinced otherwise. Many are still calculating the possible subsale price based on increases in prime locations.
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post Jan 9 2014, 08:27 PM

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As if the house price increase in the last few years was due to inflation hehe
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post Jan 11 2014, 10:58 PM

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Correct me if im wrong but i think the dibs & rebate thing became "the norm" circa 2009/2010 right? That means the mass of people who could just pass borrowing guidelines, but had few other resources, started jumping into the RE market around then. Of course there was already an active RE flipping/investment market by then, mainly in prime areas, but it was only about 4 years ago that it became everyone's game which then pushed prices in ulu places to match PJ/Damansara levels. Therefore those bandwagon jumpers are only being tested for holding power and capability from around late last year. My unscientific deduction lah wink.gif i think we should see the real effects from end of this year.
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post Jan 12 2014, 07:22 AM

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Malaysians who thought they could flip to Singaporeans imo ^
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post Jan 12 2014, 11:32 AM

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Do u know what 'suckers' really mean? ^
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post Jan 12 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 12 2014, 11:39 AM)
Haiy my friend.. take dat all aside.. ask yourself.. will u buy a studio in kl for 600k for stay or investment.. for landed.. are u going to buy 750k outskirt say kajang.. for stay.. thereafter see d market in general can absord or not..
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To say flippers allow people to find good units.... Thats gold!! :-D
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post Jan 12 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Jan 12 2014, 11:41 AM)
In 2002 not many dare to enter the DPC as many claimed tat 400+k in kaptong is crazy. Fast forward to 2014 now. Regardless of the boom, I BTC so cant find a gd word to describe.
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In 2002 what was the interest rate amd how easy was it to get loans though?
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post Jan 12 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Jan 12 2014, 11:51 AM)
R U serious ? lol

Without flipper every one can get a good property with reasonable price,  many flippers bribe the developers staff to hold on to good property before launch,  causing genuine buyer lack of good choice, this in fact allowed developer jack up the price further,  thus eventually kills the entire economy as people have less nett disposable income to spend on other sectors, this is what happened now in Hong Kong & Singapore,  as if wasn't flippers that destroyed the US & Spain economy during 2008 real estate subprime crisis which still can't solved till today.
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Let him buy from flippers then since they provide good units lol
The market will shake these people up soon.
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post Jan 12 2014, 01:27 PM

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Good move!^^ (jwrx)

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post Jan 12 2014, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(kradun @ Jan 12 2014, 08:05 PM)
Hi gspirit..
Sorry for make u misunderstand.. i am refering to my last 2 months searching, then i compare the roi based on the owner 2 years ++ input cost with the recent last call selling price.. eventhough they are still earning at least 2fold if based on my offer but at the end people are not satisfied with my offer so deal breakdown..
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Two fold based on their estimated costs (downpayments, etc) or based on ori selling price?
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QUOTE(kradun @ Jan 12 2014, 08:28 PM)
Hi Wiredx,
Is based on estimated cost. If the down payment is just less than 20k and after deducted expenses the owner is expected to earn the net profit of nearby to 80k++ then that is easily get them roi of 3fold++..
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Ic. Imo these past few years they tend to look at doubling the ori sellng price rather than estimated costs leh

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