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TSfat_joseph
post Nov 13 2013, 02:43 PM, updated 13y ago

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I have done big 3 and bigger battery upgrade. Now thinking to add capacitors.

my current system:
alpine 9887
H701 DSP
Focal FP1.800 mono
Focal FP2.150 2ch amp
PhD 4060 4ch
Boston SL60 set (active)
midrange (buying soon, not yet decide which brand to use)
Focal 30A1 sub
my power cable to trunk is 4 gauge. Since Im not going for competition, 4 gauge should be enough for my usage.

for capacitors, I heard those cheaper one are from same manufacturer from china (streetwire, efx etc). So I narrow down my choices to 3 brands:

1) Helix
2) Mundorf
3) Rockford

Helix and mundorf are basically the same level for me. But for rockford, Im considering the RFC10HB, which is a 10farad hybrid cap. A lot of positive reviews on the rockford cap. But the main problem is, if I get the rockford, I wont be able to connect it to all amps within power cable of 45cm. And with the same budget, I can get 2 or 3 mundorf or helix 1farad cap.

So my question is,
-should I get 2 or 3 mundorf caps, place it right beside aech amps OR get 1 unit of rockford cap, hook up all amps to it?
-will a good quality cap improve sound quality? will I get cleaner sound when I play music loud?
-should I invest on a voltage stabilizer instead of caps?
-will the 10 farad help when Im not using it for SPL?

Ur comments and suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks tongue.gif
CarroTT
post Nov 13 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(fat_joseph @ Nov 13 2013, 02:43 PM)
I have done big 3 and bigger battery upgrade. Now thinking to add capacitors.

my current system:
alpine 9887
H701 DSP
Focal FP1.800 mono
Focal FP2.150 2ch amp
PhD 4060 4ch
Boston SL60 set (active)
midrange (buying soon, not yet decide which brand to use)
Focal 30A1 sub
my power cable to trunk is 4 gauge. Since Im not going for competition, 4 gauge should be enough for my usage.

for capacitors, I heard those cheaper one are from same manufacturer from china (streetwire, efx etc). So I narrow down my choices to 3 brands:

1) Helix
2) Mundorf
3) Rockford

Helix and mundorf are basically the same level for me. But for rockford, Im considering the RFC10HB, which is a 10farad hybrid cap. A lot of positive reviews on the rockford cap. But the main problem is, if I get the rockford, I wont be able to connect it to all amps  within power cable of 45cm. And with the same budget, I can get 2 or 3 mundorf or helix 1farad cap.

So my question is,
-should I get 2 or 3 mundorf caps, place it right beside aech amps OR get 1 unit of rockford cap, hook up all amps to it?
-will a good quality cap improve sound quality? will I get cleaner sound when I play music loud?
-should I invest on a voltage stabilizer instead of caps?
-will the 10 farad help when Im not using it for SPL?

Ur comments and suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks  tongue.gif
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adding a cap oso can make my car engine response better and aircond smoother, its benefits goes beyond sound quality biggrin.gif

i got voltage stabilizer oso, its also caps inside just smallers ones. doesn't work as well as the big cap i experience. Its now in my motobike, works well oso.


i m oso itching to get half dozen of those industrial maxwell supercaps and hook it together, a few hundred farads ready to start ur car without a battery biggrin.gif
TSfat_joseph
post Nov 13 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(CarroTT @ Nov 13 2013, 05:35 PM)
adding a cap oso can make my car engine response better and aircond smoother, its benefits goes beyond sound quality  biggrin.gif

i got voltage stabilizer oso, its also caps inside just smallers ones. doesn't work as well as the big cap i experience. Its now in my motobike, works well oso.
i m oso itching to get half dozen of those industrial maxwell supercaps and hook it together, a few hundred farads ready to start ur car without a battery  biggrin.gif
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oh really? what is the brand of capacitor u using? I dont dare to DIY caps, I scare my car kaa boommmm tongue.gif
CarroTT
post Nov 13 2013, 08:35 PM

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post Nov 14 2013, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(fat_joseph @ Nov 13 2013, 02:43 PM)
I have done big 3 and bigger battery upgrade. Now thinking to add capacitors.

my current system:
alpine 9887
H701 DSP
Focal FP1.800 mono
Focal FP2.150 2ch amp
PhD 4060 4ch
Boston SL60 set (active)
midrange (buying soon, not yet decide which brand to use)
Focal 30A1 sub
my power cable to trunk is 4 gauge. Since Im not going for competition, 4 gauge should be enough for my usage.

for capacitors, I heard those cheaper one are from same manufacturer from china (streetwire, efx etc). So I narrow down my choices to 3 brands:

1) Helix
2) Mundorf
3) Rockford

Helix and mundorf are basically the same level for me. But for rockford, Im considering the RFC10HB, which is a 10farad hybrid cap. A lot of positive reviews on the rockford cap. But the main problem is, if I get the rockford, I wont be able to connect it to all amps  within power cable of 45cm. And with the same budget, I can get 2 or 3 mundorf or helix 1farad cap.

So my question is,
-should I get 2 or 3 mundorf caps, place it right beside aech amps OR get 1 unit of rockford cap, hook up all amps to it?
-will a good quality cap improve sound quality? will I get cleaner sound when I play music loud?
-should I invest on a voltage stabilizer instead of caps?
-will the 10 farad help when Im not using it for SPL?

Ur comments and suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks  tongue.gif
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Hello ! Brother to be honest with yu you minimum need two gauge to your trunk, you know what is stress?and add a dry cell at the back. cell to cell 0 gauge,and get a bigger alternator (advice).2 gauge is economy way to go,but not 4 gauge. Is not very hard to find second hand alternator slightly exceed 100 amp.
TSfat_joseph
post Nov 14 2013, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(KKfai @ Nov 14 2013, 12:47 AM)
Hello ! Brother to be honest with yu you minimum need two gauge to your trunk, you know what is stress?and add a dry cell at the back. cell to cell 0 gauge,and get a bigger alternator (advice).2 gauge is economy way to go,but not 4 gauge. Is not very hard to find second hand alternator  slightly exceed 100 amp.
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I considered before to upgrade my cable to 0 gauge, but my friend (technician) told me, for the volume I play, 4 gauge is more than enough. The main reason I used 4 gauge is because that was what my sold system use. and since my friend told me so, so I dint upgrade. really should I upgrade to 2 gauge? not much to do that also, will upgrade if necessary. btw what dry cell do u recommend? size and brand? I never thought of having second battery in my trunk even though I seen people did this before. Cause my car is not for competition, I thought that wont be necessary. Same goes to the alternator. and my car's engine is still under warranty, dont dare to change alternator biggrin.gif
TSfat_joseph
post Nov 14 2013, 02:49 AM

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any other sifu think I should use 2 gauge or above?
malutapimau
post Nov 14 2013, 09:03 AM

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whats total current of your system? (~ total fuse size of all amps)

4ga supports up to 125a
2ga ----- 200a
0ga -----325a

http://www.bcae1.com/wire.htm

This post has been edited by malutapimau: Nov 14 2013, 09:05 AM
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post Nov 14 2013, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(fat_joseph @ Nov 14 2013, 02:49 AM)
I considered before to upgrade my cable to 0 gauge, but my friend (technician) told me, for the volume I play, 4 gauge is more than enough. The main reason I used 4 gauge is because that was what my sold system use. and since my friend told me so, so I dint upgrade. really should I upgrade to 2 gauge? not much to do that also, will upgrade if necessary. btw what dry cell do u recommend? size and brand? I never thought of having second battery in my trunk even though I seen people did this before. Cause my car is not for competition, I thought that wont be necessary. Same goes to the alternator. and my car's engine is still under warranty, dont dare to change alternator  biggrin.gif
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Adding more than 100 amp electonic thing in yr car is a huge stress to alternator. Yu think yr car elect system still entitled warranty ?
TSfat_joseph
post Nov 14 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(malutapimau @ Nov 14 2013, 09:03 AM)
whats total current of your system? (~ total fuse size of all amps)

4ga supports up to 125a
2ga ----- 200a
0ga -----325a

http://www.bcae1.com/wire.htm
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if 1 amp got 2x30A, mean 60 or 30? lol
TSfat_joseph
post Nov 14 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(KKfai @ Nov 14 2013, 11:19 AM)
Adding more than 100 amp electonic thing in yr car is a huge stress to alternator. Yu think yr  car elect system still entitled warranty ?
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no more electrical warranty but engine warranty still have 2 years to go. Change alternator wont affect engine warranty ah? blink.gif
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post Nov 14 2013, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(fat_joseph @ Nov 14 2013, 11:27 AM)
no more electrical warranty but engine warranty still have 2 years to go. Change alternator wont affect engine warranty ah?  blink.gif
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warranty card make sure yu read carefully.since yu like music i hope nothing will happen to engine.
TSfat_joseph
post Nov 14 2013, 09:58 PM

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yea... I have been claiming warranty twice for my turbo. so far no prob smile.gif
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post Nov 15 2013, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(fat_joseph @ Nov 14 2013, 11:25 AM)
if 1 amp got 2x30A, mean 60 or 30? lol
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could consider 60a.Or look at the fuse size closed to battery.

 

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