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 Panasonic Lumix/eCam Series Discussion, Introduced MOIS, 3CCD, 12x f/2.8 Leica

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post May 8 2007, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 8 2007, 03:13 PM)
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This shot was taken at Putrajaya for a leflet I am doing for them.

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This is shot using HOYA closeup filter. Its a weed I pluck by the roadside.



See more highres pictures at:

http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/558967210xPAxXI
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yo bro...
the pic very nice color and less noise leh...
got heavy photoshop or not???

cant belif my eyes as it was taken using fz7 leh~ thumbup.gif


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post May 9 2007, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 8 2007, 04:47 PM)
For the macro shots no edit in Photoshop at all. As for the Chin Swee temple, I only edit out cable wire, tong sampah, some indonesian workers, panaroma stiching and things that is not suppose to be there. Not a bad camera this FZ7! Infact the pictures you see in webshots have been converted to low res! With the highres pic, you will see much more detail.
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darn it..sounds like i no need go to dslr yet frm there...hehehe~i tot i had used all of fz7...but from ur pic..i know its not yet all...

well....seems like i still will be stick wif fz7 for quite some time frm now..hehehe~
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QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 9 2007, 04:37 PM)
Agree with you 110% tongyam.

I am still learning and don't consider my own picture up to par in an artistic way yet. Must learn to "see" better. That is why there are many times when people wonder "what is that guy doing squating by the longkang and bushes?" When I tell them I am trying to take an artistic shot, they say no wonder all art people are weird! blush.gif
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yo bro...
ask u hor...
bout the close up filter u used ....
actually how the close up filter function de har?
can teach teach share share abit on it? icon_question.gif
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post May 9 2007, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 9 2007, 04:54 PM)
aero99, I would not give up my FZ7 yet too. I feel if we are not gonna shoot sports pictures, or wearing binocular as spectacle (noise hunter), we can do without DSLR. I have both but I have more fun with FZ7 any day.

My boss have an old P&S Olympus and he always complain that it took lousy pictures and he wanted to upgrade to my camera (FZ7) cause he said it can take better pictures. At lunch time, I took his Olympus to KLCC park to take some pictures. When I come back I show him the pictures. You know what he says? "you went to the camera shop to repair the camera oredi ah? Now look so nice" doh.gif

Its not the camera, it's the photographer that needs repair  tongue.gif
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i understand the meaning...lets we both together work out on the FZ7..heheheh~ thumbup.gif
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post May 9 2007, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(tongyam @ May 9 2007, 05:06 PM)
close up filter just like "fong dai kiang" everything become big

but...for close up only  tongue.gif
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hmmm....juz do close up?
mean it can provide nearly distance for me when i shot macro??

fz7 default is 5cm ... if a closup +4 mean can go to ???
or tat is not wat it mean for close up?

sorry..but i still not really catching the meaning~ cry.gif


Added on May 9, 2007, 5:32 pm
QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 9 2007, 05:20 PM)
Actual it is very easy only. Depends on how many filter you buy. The set I got is +1,+2 and +4. There is also +3 and +10 in the market but have to order.

What you do is attached the FZ7 lens adapter first then the +4 follows by +2 then +1. This will give you +7. Always attached the biggest number first. You'll find that you can focus closer now. The best way for me is to move forward or backwards abit and use the zoom a bit too. It is hard for me to explain unless you explore it yourself. Some people advice to use manual focus but for me FZ7 98% of the time correct. Also try to use a bigger apeture number to increase DOF.
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hmmm...mean if only use +4 is not enuf?
heard frm fren saying hoya close up +4 selling rm35+- ...and my fren already got 1...
mayb find 1 day drop by his hse n try it out see how it really use to ~
if ngam might get one myself~


Added on May 9, 2007, 5:36 pm
QUOTE(tongyam @ May 9 2007, 05:25 PM)
for close up dun use zoom better, it will increase bokeh depend wat level u wan to.

when my camera doing macro, only allow X2,if more than tht it will lost focus, even with MF
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abang tomyam...bokeh mean apa? icon_question.gif

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post May 9 2007, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 9 2007, 05:43 PM)
FZ7 macro mode can go very near to your subject. The thing is, if you are shooting a fly, it will notice you are coming close and will fly away no? With the +7 Closeup filter you can stand just a bit back and zoom in on it. This way not only will the fly not notice you but you can have a bigger manification than the normal macro mode. But because our FZ7 dont have a manual zoom ring on our lens, it is easier to move forward or backward abit to get it in sharp focus. You can zoom just a bit if too much, picture quality not nice.

Lastly, a tip: use tripod or beanbag. I dont have beanbag so I use my bantal busuk blush.gif
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oic...so erm..frm my understanding lah...
mean if no using close up filter u hav to very near to the objhect if do macro...

but wif the closeup filter (depand on + ?) mean u can hav same distance witout moving forward?

bean beg...tats the thing im gonnna diy soon ..but not yet know which bean better and use wat kind of thing to hav them inside...

so for the meantime only can use my tripid when need some steady shot for macro~


Added on May 9, 2007, 6:03 pm
QUOTE(tongyam @ May 9 2007, 05:44 PM)
so close to object for wat? no enug lighting lah  doh.gif  shot ulat also run la so close  doh.gif  sweat.gif
ur cam 5 cm, oledi enuf near loh, + use abit zoom then mai ok loh, or u go buy macro lens lor, 200rm+ only

bokeh mean, object clear, oth blur out, arron dai goh is bokeh master tongue.gif

dop = decrease bokeh.

i still NOOB in this term la ,every time need to ask aichiban si fu  thumbup.gif  laugh.gif
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so can this pic consider bokeh???? hmm.gif
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post May 9 2007, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 9 2007, 06:12 PM)
"oic...so erm..frm my understanding lah...
mean if no using close up filter u hav to very near to the objhect if do macro...

but wif the closeup filter (depand on + ?) mean u can hav same distance witout moving forward?


Correct! and the manification is also much much bigger! (depends on how many ++ you add)
bean beg...tats the thing im gonnna diy soon ..but not yet know which bean better and use wat kind of thing to hav them inside...

so for the meantime only can use my tripid when need some steady shot for macro"


If you have those small tripod can use also
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hmmm...seems like i really need to go find my fren borrow his close up filter then...ya...juz 1 more question...will the filter downgrade the pic quality? juz curios to ask~

no mini tripod on hand...got try few on market..but all kenot tahan one...still looking for nice one...
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QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 9 2007, 06:23 PM)
Dont zoom too much and it's ok. I see if I can show you some pictures 2moro. But to exp it yourself from your friend's filter firsthand is better.
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wow..good good... waiting for ur pic...ehh bro..issit possible u take same pic of before n after the usage of the closeup filter?
i guess frm there might gave us more clearer thought of it~
juz my 2cent~ laugh.gif

his filter not yet use one ohh..juz brought it few days ago frm desmond there....now im the one who try it out 1st..wakakakk brows.gif
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QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 10 2007, 01:29 PM)
I've joint 2 image for you to see the difference.

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This is taken with FZ7 Macro mode. This is the closes I can get to get to a big shot of the 1 cent and the cap. Distance from lens to subject is 3cm. As you can see, my camera cast a shadow on the lens cap.

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This is taken with HOYA close up filter. Distance form subject is 13cm. Optical zoom is 12X.

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Distance form subject is 13cm. Optical zoom is 16.5X.

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Distance form subject is 13cm. Optical zoom is 66X.

You don't have to zoom all the way to 66X to take a macro shot. Use whatever distance that will work to make your picture nice. It's not about the max zoom but it's about the picture that maters. Hope this helps.
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thx bro....this clear me enuf of the close up filter....really hand itchy to try it out liao.... gonna buy u a cup of tea when we hav chance to TT in future~ thumbup.gif
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post May 10 2007, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(ymjay @ May 10 2007, 05:23 PM)
hm....really wanna buy but i rarely go to sg wang and low yatt. any shop that is near PJ that sells lumix accessories? if i buy, i want to buy extra battery. thanks
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key color in mid valley shld have it for sales...price unknown lah~and i guess sure they got sell the battery as well~
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post May 12 2007, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(tongyam @ May 12 2007, 02:30 PM)
i jump liao luehh
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jump only the lens cover? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tongyam @ May 12 2007, 08:53 PM)
doh.gif

how come u know one,

wei where u bought the close up filter? 1 set one

i go TL today, they just leave plus 4 only  doh.gif  so no buy lor
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juz a guess base on ur earlier statement of not changing to dslr (at least not so fast) ... wakakakka....

TL?? shocking.gif or YL u mean tongue.gif ? i not yet buy the close up filter yet lehh.....waiting to borrow from my fren n test play test play dulu...but earlier my fren who brought it told me it sell around rm35 for the +4 filter in YL~

this morning i oso got visit YL lehh...around 12pm ... (we got meet each other without notice or not? biggrin.gif )
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QUOTE(tongyam @ May 12 2007, 09:14 PM)
hahah really liu gai me
hm.....i think no gua...i go around 1-2
ya rm35 last one liao, they going to masuk again.

but i wanna a set one which got +4+7 and +10 in the package one, 100+rm  biggrin.gif


Added on May 12, 2007, 9:16 pmi also went to raymond there, 52mm filter all tarak
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wahh....u wanna do close up project now har? thumbup.gif
+4+7+10 = RM100 package? sound interesting..
but really need to much close up meh? dunno quality of the pic will down or not leh? sad.gif

btw...raymond or desmond har? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(tongyam @ May 12 2007, 09:30 PM)
raymond , kiet photo  wink.gif

y got quality dumb, wont la
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oic...kiet photo at where?
after i finish YL ... i wanna go direct photo at jln loke yew there...but the shop gate was only half way up so i tot they r not yet really start business or wat...so juz terus went back pj liao~

when the rm100 package come...do inform me ~ icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(tongyam @ May 12 2007, 09:38 PM)
doh.gif
at pudu lah  doh.gif  direct photo ah, i pm him cpl , he told me 98 woh, but desmond there 95;) n the cap is rm10.... i think still can kurang, since discount no much, so no ask for more lor wink.gif


Added on May 12, 2007, 9:40 pmwat stock u in from desmond there leh?
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icic...din notice ..i juz drop by there not more then 5 min then go eat liao....

i din buy anything...juz look see look see around...finally get touch of the manfrotto tripod...damm heavy on the weight n ...price tooo... (rm680) i forgot wat model issit doh.gif
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QUOTE(fecgoh @ May 14 2007, 08:14 AM)
You can get a cheaper manfrotto tripod like I do.

See here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=438705&hl=
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i like the handle ~

juz got a manfrotto katalog frm a fren last saturday~ inside having alot of manfrotto model... now the thing is .. i dunno the price ...hav to go out look see look see around 1st...

coz fren say the shop is in pj somewhere...kinda near for me to find it out as im staying in pj too~


Added on May 14, 2007, 9:11 am
QUOTE(tongyam @ May 12 2007, 10:10 PM)
not really interested in tripod thing, a very good tripod no match for my device now tongue.gif

wasted if buy now wink.gif
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my current tripod is Velbon Micro Compact Ultra Maxi S Tripod with PH-243 Ball and Socket Head.. not bad to put my fz7 in... but i duno if it can tahan for heavier dc or not...gonna try it out 1 day~ tongue.gif


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QUOTE(tongyam @ May 14 2007, 10:40 AM)
using wat can use for current now loh, dun waste money to do sohai, keep that extra money  for ur future cam better, so far, i never use my sakure tripod. no chance to use it

ei, i will go pudu plaza to buy close up one day, u wan to go onot?
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sure i know bout tat...manfrotto is survey to support my future dslr too....

goin YL ? when ? i need to work during weekday de woor.... and this coming weekend not free as i got fren coming frm far away n need to accompany them around~

next week? or weeks after?
if cant catch up the time no prob de ~

btw..the close up set reach oledi?
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QUOTE(tongyam @ May 14 2007, 11:57 AM)
set one? no they no selling
i think just buy the plu4 four one, or buy 2 plus four one loh...

set one my friend is bought from ebay doh.gif

* last time lensamalaysia also got ppl seling set, 1 2 4 i think, forgot d
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oic...im not decide to buy yet..waiting my fren to borrow me play around 1st~ then only decide~ icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(tongyam @ May 14 2007, 12:27 PM)
wat size it that? borrow me to play also tongue.gif
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52mm which suit my fz 7 fit fit~

wait till he borrow me dulu lah...now he at penang outstattion...

when i get it we call up a TT and play around ~ brows.gif


Added on May 14, 2007, 1:55 pmohh no ...dunno how long i can tahan more..the dslr poison really strong...feel like im being pulled over!!

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guys~~

i had falllll~ to the dark siteeeee~ rclxm9.gif

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