Dear all,

Within my budget (below 90k), I have shortlisted my choice to this two.

1.4 Kia Rio SX & 1.5 Vios G spec.

I dont really care about the resell value as Im planning to use the car for 10 years.
Therefore, my main concern would be the reliability, maintenance/spare part costs, and fuel consumption hopefully not too bad. I really like the design of the all new Kia Rio though. Btw, sorry for the noob question, but does the sunroof affect it's NvH. I am very particular with this as well. I like my car to be silent

Which will be a better choice?
Kia Rio SX 79,888
Vios G spec 88,500

This post has been edited by artisan8: Nov 9 2013, 11:51 AM

Of course Kia Rio SX.

i'd get the Rio. Vios just not worth it for that price.

any justification? especially in the main factors that im concerned of?

Of course RIO lar. VIOS is junk.

You mean other than the 6 airbags, ESC, DRL etc. etc. and RM9k cheaper?

The only downside is that the Rio feels underpowered compared to Vios and bootspace.

" reliability, maintenance/spare part costs, and fuel consumption " - Vios

" Outlook, Handling, Technology, " - Kia Rio

You forgot Safety.

How is the FC for both cars on the road (not papers), any idea?
If the spare part cost significantly much lower on the Vios side?

underpowered..yikes, that's the last thing i wanna hear of but oh well i know i cant get the best of both worlds. therefore i need justification like yours. thanks for your input

how bout the legspace for the rear seat.. will it be too small for rio?

Go test drive both and decide for yourself, you'll find both drive quite differently. Choose the one you like the most, what I think is underpowered may not be the same for you.

Rear seat space is OK for me, but my expectations may differ from yours.

Previosly I would say VIOS...

Now? Avoid VIOS at all cost...

TOYOTA always more for realibility, fuel economy, lowest maintenance .

New model NCP150 vios.
Every
10k=RM211.30
40k=RM398.50
80k=RM780. (Including gearbox oil)
NOTE: vios gearbox oil only change every 80k KM.

why so?

Try have a ride on it... Not test drive unit, a consumer unit..

Test 1: drive in a raining day, you have to shout to your passenger in order for them to hear what you say..

Test 2: drive in a sunny day... Off the radio n aircon and press the pedal harder to accelerate.... At first I thought the exhaust piping got hole... Sounds like aeroplane pick up... After fren send to a 3rd party exhaust pipe shop checking, only know they are using very thin and low grade metal to do the piping... Don't hit bump with the stock piping... One hit KO...

This post has been edited by geek8585: Nov 9 2013, 12:47 PM

good add..

oh ? i thought they have improved a bit on chasis, some said closing door sound more solid now...

VIOS and how old are you again?

I thought they improved alot on the NvH ? what a disapointment to hear that

Going to 23 next year and why?

Reliability- vios
Maintenance / spare parts - vios
FC - vios


There goes your answer!

Reliability and Maintenance / spare parts - vios
Fancy gadget + safety - Rio

I will take vios if I am going to use it for 10 years. But if I plan to use for 3~5 years, Rio ,so I no need worry bout reliability . Kia is getting better but reliability wise is still not good as toyota . If you really take care of toyota car well, they can last quite longer, not the longest but longer than kimchi car . Kimchi car is suitable for those who dont care about reliability(8 9 years ++), resell value , like new tech , gadget and more safety feature

This post has been edited by blueyan: Nov 9 2013, 05:02 PM

When they refuse to adjust their supplier price. What can their supplier do?

Rio la..88k for vios is too much la
can get City and upcoming polo sedan at 85k

if u are sales man....

Vios 3 years warranty and limit to 100k whichever comes first
Rio 5 years warranty and no limit of mileage - Pls read T&c when u test drive

Based on your requirement, vios is your choice.... If you buy rio, u will cry for that none of the requirement you listed is met.

If you buy Vios your wife will cry cause you died in an accident involving a car hitting you from the side.

I'd take the Rio. Or, perhaps, the Polo sedan, though it isn't as safe as the Rio, but at least better than the Vios.

wow....what kind of vios is that? cross bump that time wont bottom out la, even if bottom out it wont hit the exhaust system, only the side of the chassis where they use it to jack up and support the car

for the exhaust sound, i didnt hear anything at all even though i always off aircon and radio while driving

btw mine is vios first gen facelift version

Come on, look at his requirement, he dont cRe bout safety. Reliability, fuel saving, low maintenance are his requiremnt. Sure vios win hands down

1st gen and the new vios big diff eh

That price for sedan or hatchback?

Even when someone doesnt care about safety, we should really recommend cars for its safety features. IMO.

true..Everyone has different requirement on buying a car but let just focus in TS main requirement reliability, maintenance/spare part costs, and fuel consumption

What is the point TS get more safety measure but a car doesnt meet his requirement ? Vios has been here for 10 years ++ , spare part are easily to be found , and Toyota prove to have longer reliability, and adequate fuel consumption for a sedan. If TS want to focus in safety , there are other few cars apart from these two can be added in consideration , but most of them wont fullfill these main 3 requirement
reliability, maintenance/spare part costs, and fuel consumption

This post has been edited by linkinawe: Nov 9 2013, 11:40 PM

what other cars can be recommended around this price range below 90k?

I can consider other cars even if it does not meet my main 3 requirement. Of course, dont be too far away with it as well. Like for FC, I do not expect to have it to be better than Vios, but dont too fuel sucking too. Spare parts dont be twice the price for the spare parts of Vios then should be alright for me. As for reliability, as long as it don break down so often then can already.

Im still open up to all the sifu in FNF. Thank you all

jazz hybrid/jazz/inspira/fiesta/polo sedan

This post has been edited by linkinawe: Nov 10 2013, 12:01 AM

How about the Prius C?

Better FC than both cars.
Better reliability than both cars (the big brother is pretty much the most reliable car there is).
Good safety, on par with the Rio.
Spare parts and maintenance: Good question. The Prius C at least requires fewer brakes. Battery should easily last one car lifetime or more, no worries there. (US taxis drive 400+k without changing the battery or losing capacity).

for long run i would say vios, why they are so reliable ? LoL, using the same old tech for few generation, apa pun stable.......

skip rio if u prefer power/fc from my advice


conclusion....

wanna try peugeot 208 ?

Actually I am struggle between this two as well. Parents prefer vios. But I think Vsc and six air bag more important. Hmmm...appreciate if more people can reply. No need open new thread

yea, that should be a priority when considering a car.

If you want 6airbag and vsc, then you can skip umw toyota malaysia for sure. Dun waste time go umw show room to find your 6airbags with vsc c car there with your budget.. Even if u top up 100k more also cannot get a car with the spec you want at umw toyota.

Vios.

You can never go wrong with a Toyota.

What do you mean Vios is junk?
Can your Rio drift ?

You call that drifting ah?

Last I checked, drifting isn't one of the traits that TS is looking out for.

The Prius C has 6 airbags and VSC, the Prius too. But only cause it is CBU and it would probably be too expensive to remove those features just for Malaysia. If the government will remove the incentives for CBU hybrids then say goodbye to 6 airbags and VSC. So buy now, before it's too late.

Ok ,just compare that ..if you dont wan headache,go for j car.

K car scare is sort of parts and give problem to you.

If you dont mind all this,then up to your choice n take test drive

For me,i can say i surrender on repair car d,some people never try never know,from engine,gearbox n electronic component...japan still can said is good in quality.

I like the design of the new VIos. However did you all notice that if an adult was to exit from the rear passenger door, your head might knock against the roof of the car due to it sloping downwards?

I have try ford focus sedan ,when i enter to driver seat,really knock my head

Hahaha.. Drifting? Lol...

Lololololol "SUCCESS!!"

He's so proud his vios has a handbrake

I bought rio in april 2013.but only used it for one montj before handed over to my sister.. a little bit under power.. for town driving looka kewl... sporty..lowered.. and full features..
Fc.. a bit high..service center is few compare to toyota..
Just for info I also use toyota altis

b1tch please, do this


He is suppose to do his food review, do car review kasi tembak je lolol

This post has been edited by helven: Nov 11 2013, 01:26 AM

All talking about safety, I guess you guys all driving your car above 180km/h and wanna survive when crushing, good luck yo joker

typical hater, people were talking about safety because they value their life. While you are just bashing around by claiming others driving above 180km/h without any justification

making story of your own doesn't proof anything

ask that fello try to pour water over the floor and drift with the vios...

if the vios din turtle over, i am sure that guy surely pull handbreak come down from car... the leg will shake until cannot walk... hahaha...

This post has been edited by geek8585: Nov 11 2013, 08:41 AM

Inspira 1.8 m/t

Read on your requirement rio is your choice, but if u dont mind the underpower feel. Even saga blm faster than rio

Look stupid.. but I think it true hahahha

actually u nw also gt 1 more choice la...volkswagen polo sedan...guess it better than rio & vios gua...
(i'm rio owner,everything i like it juz d fc might nt ngam ur taste coz rio fc soso jek,haha! vios no comment,lol)

I just have a friend who claim total loss for his Ford Focus, and in the hunt for new car.

I did ask him to take a Vios, as it's overall a safer choice in term of power, FC, RV, SC etc. He is still young and need to save for marriage and set up family in future, and with the income progression Vios is a better car for him.

Rio, on the other hand, has earned many tick marks on several areas, but on 4 speeder and underpower, it needs a 6 speeder to perfect the power delivery while enhancing the FC. Vios is on 4 speeder but it's properly configured I feel.

So, to me Vios is a better car lar. Rio, not yet, despite all features it offers.

I've owned a KIA Spectra for past 10 years, Civic FD for past 8 years and Hilux since last year. I had rented a KIA Optima K5 (the cheapest budget car at Alamo Anaheim) on my vacation in USA in 2012. If you ask me about reliability of parts, Japanese win hands down. Korean cars despite their said tremendous improvements over the years simply can't match the Japs. You need to own these cars to know. By just reading specs and short test drive around taman won't help much. Get the Yaris Sedan (Vios)!

It is Friday again. Bump this up

i would say avoid vios at all cost also...
it has ntg beside reliability...
if u willing to stretch a little bit to 100k...
can consider cerato...
it has everything,reliabilty is a ?...
but d previos forte is quite gd...
dis gen cerato should be better...