As a regular member, I ordered "100pcs Mitsubishi DVDR" from Chee & "IDE to USB converter" from Motorbaby, two famous trader in Lowyat.net .

I told them to COD at Lowyat Plaza (in front of Speedy shop) on this 14 Jun 2006 at 7pm, I already PMed them clearly and given them my handphone number, they also PMed me their number. I didnt save their numbers in my handphone because they are very famous and Senior Member of LYN forum, I have no problem of expecting them to be turn out in the COD session.

Well, it turn into a nightmare, I went there at 7pm sharp and didnt see anybody waiting for me, so I guess they are busy at the mean time, so I waited... At the end, I waited for 50 minitues, still no one come to appoarch me with my ordered item or even a miss call from them. Really dissapointed and piss off. Why I wasted 50 minitues and money standing in front of Speedy waiting for nobody?

So, I went back and I PMed them, "What do you have to say?" . Their reply seems to be "You didnt call me" . One question, why do I need to PMed to specify time and place at the first place? No need to use the PM anymore right? Is that means no phone call when COD mean FFK?

Use your common sense, these people are just using their own excuse to make sure they are not to be blame because of FFK. They might said "You should remind me of the COD when I am very busy", if people take seriously of the COD no need for remind.

The main reason of starting this thread is :
1. Make sure next time when I COD, I didnt call the seller/buyer, doesnt mean I am FFK them.
2. Chee and Motorbaby are using method of "No phone call means buyer/seller FFK"
3. To avoid another failed COD, wasting time and money

PM sent between karising and Chee



PM sent between karising and motorbaby



This post has been edited by karising: Jun 18 2006, 01:40 AM

hell yes

report made

I'd say both party have fault..
Yesterday i COD keyboard with silenthunter and we agreed to meet a a place..
I asked for his number earlier but i didnt give mine to him..
I went to the meeting point but realised i forgot to save his number..

So i just thought i will go there and wait and if he dont come i will go back and PM him to setup anoter meeting.

So i went there and i see him waiting for me.. end of story.

i didnt read thru the whole msg BUT in my book, if the pm u sent was acknowledged by him including the time, date, quantity and all those information, then maybe he is to blame since it's already beeon confirmed.

but if those info are not there..then...

Just look at the pm I sent to them. You will see what kind of information I gave.

what i can see now is not ur pm contents.

1. it's unfair that you blame them when yourself is at fault too. firstly, i don't know how busy Motorbaby they all are - they might be......... you did foolishly when you assumed so many things and didn't keep their phone number to COD either.

i personally dealt with Motorbaby before and the COD worked very well.

2. your signature is inappropriate not just for it's humongous nature but also you're blaming others when you're at fault as well.

3. the first one you should be pissed off / disappointed / angry would be towards yourself. cos from what i see, everything would've been fine if you had the decency (or some common sense) to save their number on your phone - after all you ARE and SHOULD be aware of how usually COD goes....

ie.
A to B : i'm here already, u here yet?
B to A : ok, parking. arriving shortly
A to B : alright, i'm in front of Speedy
B to A : ok

This post has been edited by goldfries: Jun 17 2006, 03:11 AM

got once I try to wait for buyer and it end up all late and I wait wait wait , so I become smart ,keep on calling my buyer and ask when r they arrive rather then I wait at there like a FOOL or ask them when reach call/SMS me

All the best to ur case.

This post has been edited by lgs: Jun 17 2006, 03:11 AM

From this message, you did imply that you're going to contact him when you've arrived. The keywords are in red.


And from the seller's reply to your msg above, he didn't acknowledge that he will meet you in front of that shop at 7pm. He only acknowledged the quantity and brand of the dvdr.


Anyway I'll get back to this issue here later, need to concentrate on the WC.

lol..turned out to be ur own carelessness caused all this..

don't worry la, no goals yet.

btw yes - great observation there!!

see, the seller could always agree on the COD to be there. to get the goods ready. but the buyer did say he would contact when he arrive.


Hi, i made up my mind already, 100 pcs of mitsubishi 8x dvdr, if you have the DVD-R one is lagi best, but DVD+R is still okay, we meet at LYP at about 7pm. give me your hp no. so i can contact you when i arrived. thank you.

so u want the mitsubishi minus 8x, right? deal
DVD minus or DVD plus?
012-2010 xxx

so based on this message - you (threadstarter) did not fulfil your part of the DEAL either, by calling when you arrive. did you? no you didn't.

before you hentam the seller's attitude or anything - your should acknowledge your mistake first. like i said earlier, the trade would've gone fine if YOU had saved their numbers.

better luck next time.

how could u not bring the seller's number with u ?

well, nothing really to say, but i guess it's your own pride and foolishness that crap on you yourself.

stop whining like a baby and grow up to admit your own mistakes instead of shoving it over to other's side.

ps : there's Cybercafe around, why didn't u pay a small sum to go online to check your pm instead?

if you're gonna answer me because i thought i pmed them my number and they would call me. dont bother to answer, u're just too proud.


ot: goldfries, coming trainin tmr?

This post has been edited by exkay: Jun 17 2006, 03:38 AM

My verdict:

Chee: Not guilty

Motorbaby: Not guilty



What kind of logic/excuse is this? You didn't even save their numbers because of their status in this forum?

Another thing is, you could have at least messaged them politely regarding your dissatisfaction instead of showing your blatant hostility. I'm referring to these messages:
That alone is another minus for you in this case. Motorbaby was even nice enough to apologise to you, yet you continued being hostile. Yet having said that, this part doesn't affect the outcome of this 'case' for me.

One 'key point' in this case is the fact that you purposely did not save their numbers, yet you were being absolute on the believe that "They're the ones who should call me, after all I did give my number to them".

On top of that, you're pointing all 10 fingers at them whilst absolving yourself from any blame.


Anyway I'm done here, let's hear from the others.

Nope cant blame chee or motorbaby at all coz ppl that do COD are usually not punctual or dont turn out at all!

SInce motorbaby is working at lowyat of coz he'll wait for your call then only come down and pass the stuff to u right

else he'll assume you're not coming.

Good luck babe and I hope you edit your signature....dun le spoil people's name. Good luck babe.

k la. it's clear now on the verdict.

so IMO case closed and will be closed.

lol....another clever guy said want to close thread ...LoL. R u the one who decide is the case is clear n thread close.....

don forget that the thread starter oso gave his number to CHee n Motorbaby. They should call to make sure too. U think seller is tai kor arr....need to sms them 1st.

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This post has been edited by Indecided: Jun 17 2006, 10:50 AM

i dont agree to threadstarter.. coz from his word, i will call u when i arrive;
if u said why seler didnt contact the buyer at 7pm
ans : because he said he will call him/her when he arrive
besides, the best part is, because he/she is a senior member n u didnt save his phone number? what fact is this? i really really really dun understand this part lo

well....i din said the threadstarter not wrong...both party oso wrong...

you have problem understanding english.

i said

so IMO case closed and will be closed.

do you even understand that?

there's obviously nothing else to discuss about the case. the threadstarter has the main fault here, so every thing from this point onwards could be settled with the sellers via PM.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Jun 17 2006, 12:21 PM