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post Nov 11 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Nov 11 2013, 04:50 PM)
I was thought of the same question as well. sweat.gif somemore same battery capacity as Nexus 5 as well... something fishy here.
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It's not Area 51 mystery.
All Nexus devices' battery are crappier compared to regular high end devices.
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post Nov 13 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Nov 13 2013, 03:59 PM)
that's the problem when I was using the O2X.  must flash CM10.  that's why i swore never to buy another LG phone ever again.
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LG is just a manufacturing partner & hardware blob supplier for Nexus 5. On OS side they don't do sh*t.Google take care of it. Don't be too afraid of Nexus devices software things.

My experience after using Nexus 4 for almost 10 months is I feel like LG's support for hardware is quite good. The repair parts for Nexus 4 is much cheaper than other devices and the repairs are done quite fast if the parts were available.
On software side, it's a Nexus device.No need to say more. It does get updated promptly.

The only bad thing about Nexus 4 in Malaysia when it was launched in Malaysia was the carrier exclusive by DiGi. They bought the right to distribute Nexus 4 in Malaysia & at same time had right to set the RRP themselves. When N4 LGE Malaysian set was first sold in Malaysia, it was sold for RM1549. Roughly RM400 more expensive than US price. The price went down fast in a month. Initial buyers felt like suckers sad.gif I feel like the appropriate for N4 should be around RM1.3K plus.

Back to Nexus 5, I'm still considering about upgrading to Nexus 5. If the RRP for 32GB was set around RM1.6K I might seriously have to consider upgrading.
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post Nov 14 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(gmhafiz @ Nov 14 2013, 03:31 PM)
Where did you get wifi at medium brightness? Also what is medium brightness? Different panel has different brightness.

I'd wait for anandtech's review that standardized all screen test at 200nits.
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Seriously, you don't need Anadtech's review o know that Nexus 5's battery life will be average.Or crap like some people would say.
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post Nov 14 2013, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ahmaz @ Nov 14 2013, 04:30 PM)
I repeat again; you guys are just considering hard paper specs and ignoring software optimisations completely. Go look at faux/franco kernel on N5.
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Flashing custom kernel won't magically G2 like battery life. There might be improvement but it'll around 10-20% (rough estimation). The 2300mA battery won't be enough to power up the 1080p screen for too long. You probably need to learn to use the phone conservatively & monitor the apps in device to prevent wakelocks & whatnot to prolong the battery life as much as possible.

This is how I learned to live with my Nexus 4. Love the software & hardware except for the less than stellar battery life & *cough* "average" *cough" camera.

QUOTE(covah @ Nov 14 2013, 04:55 PM)
does anyone here bought nexus 5 D820 using 3g postpaid? any problem?
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You won't have problem connecting to any of Malaysian telco's 3G service.

QUOTE(benny888 @ Nov 14 2013, 05:02 PM)
Digi 3g/h network is bad n many areas don't even have h+. If serious intention to use mobile data network should consider change to maxis or celcom. In KL even the newer UMobile thrumps it
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Depends on place. For me I'm ok with DiGi 3G. The 3 places I go frequently Kluang(Johor),Melaka & KL have decent DiGi 3.5G service.
UMobile service is a jekyll and hyde story. Sometimes it's good & at another time it's plain crap.Too many downtime in many places (admittedly it's for maintenance purpose but there shouldn't be that many downtime).
If you want the widest coverage, go for Celcom. If you want the fastest service go for Maxis instead.

1 thing that till bugging me is why DiGi haven't improved on their LTE coverage. They made a big deal out of the Tomorrow's Network dung & they are the 1st telco in Malaysia to publicly acknowledge that they are building LTE network. But now their LTE coverage is suuuupeeer pathetic.
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QUOTE(gmhafiz @ Nov 14 2013, 05:30 PM)
I don't know if you own a nexus 5 but I do. I also like to present evidence backing up my claims.

I can get the phone through the day with similar usage as my sgs4. A reason why a 2300mAh battery could perform similarly to sgs4:

- S800 being much more power efficient than s600. Source and formatted image I made
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The table above is compared against s600. My exynos sgs4 would fare worse than s600. The information looks believable because my nexus5 standby time is much better than my sgs4.

Besides that, we know kitkat has reduced memory footprint. I have no concrete source but there are rumours of software optimizations to reduce battery consumption too although it is not far fetched.

Anandtech's tests are standardized. That has more credibility than some random people claim's with various unknown parameters such as whether google now is enabled, brightness level, location accuracy is high or low, wifi/4g/3g etc.

FWIW, I am happy with nexus 5 battery life. I haven't even root the phone or flash custom kernel yet  thumbup.gif
franco tells us nothing about his kernel sad.gif

There's a possible battery leak which has been manually solved by supercurio. I couldn't find where it is but if this is true, then I can expect longer standby battery life.
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It's reasonable to expect Nexus 5 to have slight better battery usage than SGS IV. But it's unreasonable to expect Nexus 5 to last like G2 or Note3 due to lower battery rate.

I do agree that Anandtech's review is much more comprehensive that other websites. But regular people don't want to know about every single nuts and bolts in a device laugh.gif

Another battery bug with Nexus at launch? This seems like annual thing for Qualcomm. Same thing happened during Nexus 4's launch last year.

QUOTE(iOrange @ Nov 14 2013, 05:43 PM)
is nexus battery that bad? hmm.gif
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No.It's decent. But it's not as good as the flagships from other OEMs.

Talking about the battery life really make me wonder how the heck LG managed to make Optimus G & G2's last longer than other devices which used similar hardwares. Their UI department suck balls but their battery optimization tricks are excellent.
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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Nov 14 2013, 06:07 PM)
In my opinion, this SIRIM nonsense should stop.  It's not like Malaysia has higher standards in terms of electronics or anything.  Why can't ASEAN countries meet together and define a set of standards that applies to all member countries?  It'll save money, time and effort for manufacturers to get their device certified for sale in the region.  Also, the increase in transparency will benefit all parties (except for the Malaysian market monopoly that SIRIM enjoys of course).

Malaysians will then enjoy earlier launches in line with the region.  I bet Malaysians and Singaporeans are similar in their hunger for the latest gadgets.

Some manufacturer must start lobbying soon, *ahem*Apple*ahem*.
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The word "efficiently" doesn't translate well to Malaysian politicians.Especially for the blue side.

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QUOTE(fcuk90 @ Nov 14 2013, 11:48 PM)
I agree with u
battery optimization ? bigger capacity beat that.

g2 has quite a lot of development too , when ur nexus can flash custom kernel , how about flashing the custom kernel and cm/pa/aokp on g2? wink.gif
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I would seriously consider G2 if LG put the power at the side instead of at the back.
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post Nov 17 2013, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Nov 17 2013, 05:42 AM)
I noticed there is a faint buzzing noise when scrolling.  From my experience in my previous job, it is most likely due to insufficient grounding of the lcd screen resulting in unintended capacitive coupling.

Not sure if it's intrinsic to the design or just my unit.
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Maybe you can look up iFix site to see how the lcd part assembled.
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QUOTE(feekle @ Nov 17 2013, 07:41 PM)
ahh..better buy the AP set then  cool2.gif
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If there's any decent AP warranty provider even I don't mind buying AP set.
But there are way too many horror stories regarding claiming warranty from AP warranty provider.
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post Nov 17 2013, 08:05 PM

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Based on previous leaks from LG Malaysia Service Center I think LG Malaysia do have Nexus 5 in stock. But the testing, pricing & negotiation with telcos will probably delay it.
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QUOTE(djlah @ Nov 17 2013, 08:35 PM)
hopefully not only digi like last year n4. Celcom,  please bring it.....
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Oh, so know about the bullsh*t ride with DiGi early this year?
They really messed up the Nexus 4 launch. First the delay because of exclusivity deal with LG.Then fixed price which kept changing. After releasing the device they dropped the price around RM150 in few weeks. Initial buyers like me felt like suckers.

I'm not much fan of carriers selling devices under contract but I hope this time all Malaysian carriers are given equal stock of Nexus 5.

Speaking of selling device under contract, what's up with DiGi lately? Feel like they only sell Samsung & Apple devices under contract. Other devices are only available under zero contract.
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QUOTE(Ahmaz @ Nov 19 2013, 10:36 AM)
DiGi seems like they're bringing Nexus 5?

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QUOTE(ireneooi @ Nov 19 2013, 11:01 PM)
anyone from LYN planning to bring in from HK google play store?said to be HKD 3198 for 16GB and $3,588 for 32GB. rumored to be available for purchase starting 20/11.
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32GB cost around RM1500.Let's say courier take around RM150. And the Electronic Ah Long (SIRIM) take another RM100. Total up to around RM1750.
I think even if LG Malaysia went full retard they won't set the price of Nexus 5 for more than RM1900. I think it's reasonable to wait & buy the local set with proper warranty. Unless you really2 want to get your hand on Nexus 5 asap.
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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Nov 19 2013, 11:35 PM)
dont care about warranty lah.
ask u out of 100 phones, how many are really faulty phones?.... 1? 2?
if u really the unlucky 1 or 2... just admit your destiny loh.
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Well, some users do care about warranty.Especially if they more than 1K for a electronic device.

Nexus 4 for example have common issue which is power button issue. Affect quite a number of units. I know it doesn't cost much to fix these kind of problems but it'll good there's decent warranty coverage to protect the device. Not everyone likes to play Russian Roulette.
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QUOTE(AaronFPS @ Nov 19 2013, 11:40 PM)
Yeah and most of the nexus users are gonna root it, rooting it void the warranty right?
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Who are making up this stories?
No.You can root & unlock the Nexus devices without voiding warranty. Unlike other OEM's you don't need any security keys to unlock the bootloader. Nexus devices manufacturers will not be able to track whether you have unlocked your devices unless you show it to a technicians. So far none of LYN users modified Nexus 4 warranty claim was rejected because of unlocked bootloader or having custom ROM.

If you really want to avoid the warranty claim rejection, you can always download the device image from Nexus devices site, flash it & lock the bootloader back.

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QUOTE(shanky0 @ Nov 19 2013, 11:59 PM)
Guys I been really interested in buying a Nexus 5 saw LG G2 almost same price with almost identical specs. Well, it can be argued that Nexus 5 is really a clone of G2 really.

But what puzzle me is that the price of G2 is around RM1.8k in garage sale, compare to Nexus 5 cheapest around RM1.6k.

US selling price of 32 gb USD 549- 600.
Nexus 5 USD 349-399.

What is going on here, how come G2 so cheap in Malaysia? Tempted to go for G2 instead.
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Supply and demand.

Nexus 5 -> Hardware assembled by LG but software adaptation by Google.
G2 -> Excellent hardware by G2 but everyone know LG's software adaptation suck & the software update will be snail pace.

That's why users, at least power users will go for Nexus 5. Plus with the limited available Nexus 5 sellers can jack up the price because they know those who are desperate for this device will pay the money for it while on the other hand there will be people who will get G2 only if the price it right.

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I hope someone will dump the krt16s ota online.
I'm lazy to flash the entire system image again.
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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Nov 20 2013, 10:50 PM)
N5 got this ota meh? I thought for n4 n n7 4.4 bug.
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QUOTE(Longshot @ Nov 23 2013, 10:46 AM)
need some opinion:
i already got the N7 2013 but 2 weeks ago, my 4 year old hp (htc) battery died. I'm currently relying on power bank to power my phone...smile.gif

Should i get the N5?
Already having the N7, won't it make the experience similar and sort of making getting a new phone less fun because you already sort of know what to expect.

On the other hand, I really enjoy using my N7.

Another question, for the white colour N5, is the material at the back of the phone exactly the same as the black i.e. soft touch plastic?
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Ermm.... Well, consistent experience should make it easier to use devices right? That's some people prefers to buy Samsung tablets while having Samsung phone.

If you really like the experience stock Android provide you, go ahead & buy Nexus 5.
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For RM400 LG better give one hell of earphone laugh.gif

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