What do you expect? This is lowyat.net in Bolehland

Just slightly warm, it's not roasting hot like on S4 SoCs.

I got mine yesterday. First impression is excellent. Build quality is awesome, ceramic button and matte black feels classy and the IPS Display is miles ahead of Xperia ZL. It's noticeably light too. ART really makes the phone on par with iOS in terms of responsiveness. My phone don't suffer from low volume from the speaker, it sounds good and loud but the quality isn't as good as the ZL.

That is the worst excuse, to pay a hefty price because you being delusional. How many people get defective units I might ask?

I have read the thread. If you take a few of people as 'a lot' then you are mistaken. Where did you get the part where the first batch 'major chunk' were taken from Australian?

There are various other sources where those seller got their sets from. US, Korean, HK to name a few. Aussies isnt the first to get it anyway. Of course if you been reading threadtitle with 'problems' on it it for sure you will get it. From those number it is small relative to the numbers LG sold. Dont expect everything is sunshine and summer day, but if you being delusional about defects, every single consumer product got lemon units once in a while. Just dont lose any sleep because of it.

I never tested headphone output of this phone till today. And wow, the sound it produces is quite pleasing. Good audio separation and percussion rendered pretty well.

EDIT: For those who kept saying initial batches are problematic, it isnt. My phone dont suffer any of those problems. No backlight bleeding, no power button rattle, onboard speaker is nice and loud. One thing I gotta tell people regardless of religion is, if your money is to be spend on something else or you stole it (your wife, kids, parents etc or you took company money from OT but you didnt really doing it or dont do work properly like coming late etc.) remember those things will come back to you, one of those are you get defective new stuff.

This post has been edited by Najmods: Nov 30 2013, 05:19 PM

Mine is black as well, I always runs the phone naked, with no screen protector. Whats the point of case anyway? Just makes the phone thicker and uglier. The black matte back is as good as casing anyway. And it doesn't scratch easily by the look of it.

This post has been edited by Najmods: Dec 1 2013, 10:55 PM

You guys should install 'App Ops' to disable some apps like Google Play from keep waking up your phone. My battery drain on WiFi is 1% for 8hr standby.

Why dont you try it? Its not totally disabling it it just stop it from waking up. Its still updating the apps when there is new apps available from my experience.

You gotta be kidding, Moto manufactured worldwide? Their Razr HD don't even reach here, don't even mention the newer Droid line or Moto X

For those who flashed to 4.4.1 just stick with stock kernel for now, the kernel sources isn't out yet from what I know so those developer can't update their kernel just yet. If you managed to run it, some functionality won't work like video recording

For all these seller who brought them here you need to ask them yourself how they claim the warranty whether they can do it for you or you do it yourself. Most could claim the warranty but you might need to pay for the shipping cost.

Why wait? Just do it. The camera improvement alone is worth the update. Also WhatsApp works in ART now.

Some apps like Xposed prevents you from changing to ART because its unsupported. I'm running Franco and Linaro kernel with no problem on ART

This post has been edited by Najmods: Dec 8 2013, 11:15 AM

For me it's simple. Nexus always got the first updates from Google and the kernel sources are free so there are bunch of modders supporting the device.

Although total custom ROM like CyanogenMod is possible for any other phones like the G2, IMO the best are still the stock ROM because there is always bugs that take time to be ironed out on custom ROM, and Google own ROM is the cleanest without any bloat. The only thing I need is custom kernel which I could tinker the core components of the phone like CPU and GPU depending on my needs to optimise battery life and heat emission.

Nope I still recommend you know what you are doing. These toolkit still not really perfect. I been using WugFresh too but it messed up my TWRP installation that I end up doing so manually. What if a newbie have my problem? Would they panicked to the forum or just raging to the author?

How many people in this forum actually know what 'root' means?

Anyhow I'm not happy with the camera in 4.4.2, boosted color, in bright areas it uses too fast shutter that it lost detail in the dark and in artificial lighting it uses too high ISO that it produces noise. 4.4 is better, less noise.

That just forced the camera to run 100% JPEG quality and improve bitrate, and it didn't support ART yet.

If you just call and messaging just use 2G, it could last two days with that.

This post has been edited by Najmods: Dec 11 2013, 11:11 AM

Meh you can fit plenty big games in it if you careful what you put in it, I got two big games, GTA III and Vice City plus a couple of simple games PvZ2 and Hill Climb Racing with around 100 mp3 files among other files, only use half of the available storage.

PC is still OK, I once repair a phone with only few MB of storage left. Full of virus, push-ads and porn, both apps and video

ART is great, webpage scrolling is smoother and apps switching is butter smooth too

This post has been edited by Najmods: Dec 11 2013, 04:05 PM

The phone is owned by old man