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 LYN Proton INSPIRA Owners and Fans Thread V60!, v60! You got or not?

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San.Diego
post Nov 7 2013, 11:24 AM

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V60 is not just a dream. Congratulation! And good day buddies... rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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post Nov 13 2013, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(silverND @ Nov 13 2013, 04:51 PM)
Did i ask for a list of price? NO.
i only asked whether anybody change their tyre size from 205 to 215 and if they know the price just put it.

Is that too much to ask?

if you're rude that i can be rude too.. :-)
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Hehe... At least there's a response.

My question about air filter has, till today, NONE at all..!
So... I keep quiet and wait lor...

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San.Diego
post Nov 14 2013, 06:52 AM

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QUOTE(jnick @ Nov 13 2013, 10:18 PM)
Air filter?

K&n drop in?
Increase horse power?
Worth to get?
Void warranty?

Question?
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Hehe... There's response leh... You see—the patience is worth it. rclxm9.gif

The previous question goes like this: "Dear friends, one question. Are we allowed to change to a different brand air filter, K&N for instance, if our vehicle is still under warranty?"

What a noob I am—I know.

Anyhow, thanks buddy icon_rolleyes.gif




San.Diego
post Nov 14 2013, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Nov 14 2013, 09:32 AM)
just an air filter always can remove it laugh.gif
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Ya... Edison. That's one way out. smile.gif

But, what if I do not want to change to proton's air filter again, after having the k&n, during every 12 month servicing period? rclxub.gif

Has anyone had such experience?
San.Diego
post Nov 14 2013, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Nov 14 2013, 09:53 AM)
you just only removing it for warranty purpose if they dont let you to claim after that still can putting it back
just a 3 min job
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Got tit...

At times, we just have to give in to the proton's SC demand.

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San.Diego
post Nov 15 2013, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(win44 @ Nov 15 2013, 08:54 AM)
Went drag racing at Cyber yesterday..
i lost to a Kia Koup... v.dissapointed.  sad.gif

Its Time to sell off my lala, and get TRD..
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What's the reason of following tail-lights?
Fail launching? Excessive wheel spins? Or lose of traction?

We like to know, buddy... hmm.gif
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post Nov 15 2013, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(win44 @ Nov 15 2013, 10:22 AM)
but ya la, pickup was slower than the kia koup. His horsepower is 156, on a 1200kg car.
My 143 hp, on 1350 car.. couldnt win.
No problems at launch. it was just that my pickup was slower. I expected my shifting to beat his, but..
my car was a bit heavy as well, with an extra passenger at my side.

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Time to trade in, for new Vios tee-ar-dee.
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Hehe... That is something I've not thought of... biggrin.gif
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post Nov 16 2013, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(T630 @ Nov 16 2013, 12:07 AM)
welcum new arrival to my family...  thumbup.gif

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Congratulation! smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 19 2013, 11:30 AM)
u need to go really technical if you wan to learn about how to make more power..
u first have to know the basic of the engine .. ours is of coz the 4 stroke otto cycle..
then u need to know what is mivec... we have both in the intake and exhaust cam.
AFR is part of the big picture here.

mapping is NOT a SOFTWARE .. its a SETTING.. u dun simply plug another car setting into another car .. especially different engine.

The few things u gonna play with is..

Ignition timing
intake mivec
exhaust mivec
AFR
u can touch the throttle response as well if u want.

Key point is WHEN to BURN ..
What are the mixture ? lean or rich ? .. lean u get more power .. potentially kaaaboom it as well .. Need to know where to stay healthy .
too much advance of timing u burn the fuel before it reach TDC (top dead center) .. causing explosion earlier than it should be.. piston forcing upwards and mixture exploded expanding it downwards..

the stroke of the engine also affect the timing.. longer stroke u do not need to advance the timing so much coz timing calculated by DEGREE .. while shorter stroke u need to advance the timing more..

Rocket science ... tongue.gif
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Wow! These are the sharing of knowledge we are eying for... thumbup.gif
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post Nov 19 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(T630 @ Nov 19 2013, 01:55 PM)
yupz... he is our macgyver here... we started 2yrs ago with the remap thingy... different versions of map for different cars n setup... during supercircuit group buy theres even a map for it as most of us in the group buy went for dyno to further touch up the afr to squeeze out all the juice there is but still on the safe side thus reducing knocking issues etc...  thumbup.gif

still remember when botack uploaded a map for rich mixture to a mod but then dekit it n did not revert back to stock map... his car exhaust was spitting fire like ebo x...  laugh.gif
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Good day T630.

K3 sure know a lot. Someday I may have to consult him regarding ecu remapping if I were to do mine. smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 19 2013, 03:11 PM)
nah .. for those interested

Fuel Burn Rate

Fuel burn rate is always FIX .. of coz diff brand diff octane got differences..

but the key point is u want everything to burn at around 10-15 degree after TDC ... (if u dunno what is TDC .. then u better forget what i am trying to express)

take 1.8 engine as an example ..
1.8 engine has a 77.4mm stroke .. 1 rotation is 154.8mm

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at 3000 rpm (rotation per minute) .. per second = 3000/60 = 50 rotation per second...

one rotation is 360 degree..

1 second / 50 rotation = 0.02 second / rotation @ 20 milisecond to complete one 360 degree @ 1 rotation

20 ms / 360 degree = 56 micro second = 1 degree

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at 6000 rpm  ... per second = 6000/60 = 100 rotation per second ..

1 second / 100 rotation = 0.01 second / rotation @ 10 milisecond to complete one 360 degree

10 ms / 360 degree = 27 micro second = 1 degree

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from the 2 example above .. u can see at higher speed the time require to travel per degree is shorter at higher rpm ... but the fuel burn rate is always FIXED for the same fuel .. hence logically .. u have to advance the timing more at higher RPM so that u manage to burn everything at 10 - 15 degree after TDC ..

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Sure I'm interested..!

K3, if you have the time and are prepared, it would be good to include your knowledge on ecu remapping on you newly created blog. Do consider, brother... smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 19 2013, 04:48 PM)
That would be a NO .. lolz
coz if u dig back here .. there are some GOD that will take avantage of it ..
and he pump load map to your car not even knowing how the engine works..  laugh.gif
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I respect your decision—What a pity... Let's forgive those fellows and keep walking forward.

Anyway, thanks a lot for the sharing. smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2013, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 19 2013, 05:07 PM)
Bro... K3 not free with Inspira anymore....

We have moved forwards towards a better future where we get more chicks and more face...
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Chicks? Hehe... I'm not handsome enough lah. No leng lui want... biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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post Nov 19 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Nov 19 2013, 05:13 PM)
I already forgive .. its not i dun wan to share .. no choice d .. smile.gif
I will be damn busy with chicks ... chicks magnet ...
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We understood, bro... smile.gif


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post Nov 19 2013, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 19 2013, 05:23 PM)
Harlow.. dat's cause u driving a PROTON....
K3 now drives a VIOS TRD... ok

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Hahaha... Once those chickens are satisfied, that fellow is left with NO balls... biggrin.gif
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post Nov 19 2013, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 19 2013, 05:33 PM)
Did u just call K3 NO BALLS?

That's it man.... get prepared to have your car SLAMMED!  nod.gif
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NOT K3 lah..! doh.gif

It's that skinny chap on the pic I'm laughing at... biggrin.gif
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post Nov 21 2013, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(Janwy @ Nov 20 2013, 08:12 PM)
Thank you for your detail explanation at first.  notworthy.gif  I have the passion to go deeper into Automotive Engineering, since I was in secondary school, but UTM don't want me...  cry.gif  That is a history.

Then I study it a bit and a bit by myself, from the Internet, books... but it's not enough. I consider myself is having basic knowledge on internal combustion engine and some understanding on the new technologies like, CVT, MIVEC (valve timing technologies from different car maker, I assume, generally they are the same), ASC, ABS, and so on.

I read through some articles about AFR recently, and so I can understand those things you're trying to explain. I am really interested to go deeper in this, but I cannot find a proper study material on the Internet. Any recommendation?

By the way, love your rocket science!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi there Janwy,

Try buying some books on Automobile Technology written by professionals from Amazon.com. They help a lot, not cheap though. smile.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 07:37 AM

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@San.Diego

Sorry... This is only a test.
Testing, testing...

Yo... You're there Diego? smile.gif
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post Nov 22 2013, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(San.Diego @ Nov 22 2013, 08:37 AM)
@San.Diego

Sorry... This is only a test.
Testing, testing...

Yo... You're there Diego? smile.gif
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Doesn't work leh... blush.gif
San.Diego
post Nov 22 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 22 2013, 11:53 AM)
Kerana lu banyak sorhai
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Wah..! Like that also kena arr..? shocking.gif

This post has been edited by San.Diego: Nov 22 2013, 04:20 PM

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