overall look for my gadget, with DIY cable.
shorter one is canare cable, longer one custom made for HP890 is SATO cable (japan)
plugs are using some not so high end plug. as i cannot found 2.5mm plug that's really good. the small red things connected to my amp is Audiotrak Optoplay USB soundcard.



here's another picture with another amp.


Here's a closer look of my DIY hp890 cable.


Overall look for all my DIY cable.


Canare cable, bought from some forumers. very nice quality / finish tough. i can't found the canare f-12 plug at jalan pasar. any one can tell me where can i buy it? to be specific, the name / location of the shop will be great.


both short cable, around 7", used for connect players -> portable amp.
purple is canare cable, white is sato cable + sleeve.



[outtopic] : Koss ksc75 drive.



Kramel Mods : improve the high, but some how, i feel it's a little bit too bright. and bass feel less punchy now. how ever, i just tested it not over 2 hours.
will continue listen to it, and compare A/B with the one without mod.
glossary : kramel mods = drilling some extra holes at the plastic which cover the drive. so that to minimize the surface of the plastic. and allow more sound pass through.



PS : i bought several REAN 3.5mm plug at jalan pasar. but i cannot fit it in with canare cable. any audiophile can pls suggest me that what cable suitable to be put on the rean plug, and giving outstanding soundquality too? (the holes is slightly smaller than canare cable. i can't force it in) price won't be an issue as i won't really need long cable. probally i buy 1 meter only.and of course, cannot afford those 1 meter= RM 80 cable. =P budget around 1 meter = RM10-RM20, cable only.

sound quality : when paring with nice cable, sound stage of hp890 / koss ksc75 actually widen up.
how wide? i don't know how to describe.
overall : i am happy for
1. improvement of sound quality,
2. improvement of "outlook" . looks excited when see big big cable.
3. slightly more detail than normal cable.

and about canare L-4E6S cable + F-12 plug , according to Dinodog_jr, using his Sr60 (grado) on my amp. he claim that the bass and soundstage is improved for his SR60. and bass have quite noticeable different. how much different, ask him.



Poision part: Dinodog_JR. wanna come up and have a listen???? =P

This post has been edited by PcWork: Jun 28 2007, 02:00 PM

haha..nice close-up shots..

I see that u connecting laptop>optoplay soundcard>headamp>headphone..
How is the sounds like?

anyway, if u guys wanna check clarity improvement in ur headamp. U can try wif speakers..haha.

I had compared two headamps here wif speakers. For me, it is much easier to analysis clarity difference than in headphone. Ok, this is just me..my another assumption.

p/s: yo..thx so much u oredi prepared a shorten cable for me. If can, i want a black sleeve. My player,headamp,headphone all in black color.

Nice job there, PcWork! When you got the solution for one nice cable for your HP890, I gotta bet on you to get one for my HP1000, it's time for my baby to take a change

wah bro, wonder how heavy ur head will being stress when u using this headphone...lolz...overkilled.....

i like the 7" cable that you use to connect players -> portable amp.
(purple is canare cable, white is sato cable + sleeve)

can do and sell one to me?

Nice work dude!.....any chance u doing a ipod line out to mini jacks?

i will definitely get it from u.

nice mod. wat ar the connectors tat u used besides the canare?
which 1 better? canare or sato cable?

Good rubber shrinking job haha. Anyway i have a question for the experts. For subwoofer interconnect, is the digital coaxial 75ohm suitable for the job?

Also does anybody knows where to get good RCA connector in pasar road?

Nice mods u done there!
Sleek looking cable! How much was the total cost?

PS : It's KRAMER's mod, he's a guy over at head-fi.

PcWork, The Canare F10 u can get from Midi Specilist Opposite edifier showroom. my cable and the plug mod by them...ur sato cable how much per meter.?

This post has been edited by Akabane@DrJackel: Jun 17 2006, 10:20 PM

PcWork..if u searchin for canare f-12..i see it at i.c electronics today ..price?? rm 18.50 or rm17.50 for pieces..same shop sellin canare starquad L-4E6S

nyway...i'm thinkin to sell L-4E6S with f-12..do u think there;s any buyer interested?

This post has been edited by amirsubhi: Jun 17 2006, 09:27 PM

i m one interested buyer. i donno about others

i will try look for black sleeve, and prefer PVC sleeve. or if really a lot ppl interested with cable, i might able to buy those NEON sleeve. lol


those cable are for myself, anyway, if u serios about buying one, do drop me a PM, about how long u want, wat cable u want. and i try to look for better plugs (even though this one is not bad, but i want better outlook.) and i quote u with price. but estimated wont be big different from the price with this.

will consider, if i can get the plug, and confirm the schematic. any reference side for me? i will do a search later over google. hope can find somethings usefull.


i shrink it using my soldergun, so doesn't looks smooth. and perhaps cause by the quality of the shrink tube too. can't find those really high quality over pasar road. they have different colour, but all same brand, and made in china.

kramer.. hehehe don't really remember his name. about the mod. i really enjoy the sound after mod. how ever , it's a bit viel. those who feel itchy wanna mod, and don't dare to try. can come over to my place to have a listen the ksc75 AFTER mod. and if u like it, then baru mod.
total cost? i am not too sure as i bought a lot of things together... i did ask unit price. but couldn't remember than well. i buy a lot, then pay in total....


editted: : by the way. the plug of canare (short, purple) is better.
the one use for SATO + sleeve is lower quality, and cheaper if i am not mistaken.

This post has been edited by PcWork: Jun 17 2006, 09:20 PM

the plugs is the problems, this serveral days i will go pasar road see the fernels order book, see can order some really good quality 2.5mm plug or not. if can get, i bet a lot of handphone will need that custome made cable,,,, dinodog... *whink whink..* ur sony erricson p*** phone want some custome cable???
3.5mm - > 2.5mm, short cable like 7"
so u can connect ur phone to ur amp. hahahaha
"poisoning".....

hp890 is quite comfort to wear. and those DIY cable aren't heavy too.
here's an ideal , i can wear Hp890, in normal room (fan, switch to no.4) for 3 hours plus, without feeling hot/discomfort. time, at night.

at the amp there?
that's for my hp890
don't know what is the brand. forgot. but it's made in japan, and have quite nice finish.


about KRamel mod: i drill another hole right at the center of the plastic after some time listening. and now the bass is ok, back to normal as before, and the clarity is some how improve.
before this middle hole were drill, (which is what u see at the picture above.) i was so unhappy about it, clarity is high, bass less punchy, and have some slight echo for mid. ( don't know it's real or not. or just what i think only.)
after that, i drill the middle hole, same size. and the bass is kinda back to normal.
and have better clarity now. i was addicted to the clarity of koss. =P so i kinda enjoy the clarity after kramel mod.
song i always listen with are "Chai Qin" song.
mainly slow song. some time , some rocks.


This post has been edited by PcWork: Jun 17 2006, 09:25 PM

i think pcwork will sell it larh....do drop pcwork a pm

This post has been edited by amirsubhi: Jun 17 2006, 09:29 PM

amirsubhi :
i think he is interested with ur starquad + f-12
he tried for a long time to get a nicecable already.

hyyam85
if u cannot buy it from amirsubhi, or he don't wanna sell it, u can drop me a PM. how many meter u want, what plug u want. i can do it for u.
price, will tell u after i go to pasar road to buy the part.
for best things, tell me how many meter u want, and what;s ur budget
if i go ask price, it's below ur budget, i will buy the part, and ask u to bank in to me / come COd with me, and i might do the cable infront of you straight away.


editted :
add in a picture : My Current "Portable" setup.
sony Bean + amp + koss Ksc75, can fit in my pocket nicely. =P perhaps the amp + short cable is much more suitable for ipod shuffle. hehee can buy an extra ipod case and glue it on the amp case.

the bean were placed inside a black bag (from philips she9500 earphone) to prevent it is scratched by the case of headamp.


This post has been edited by PcWork: Jun 17 2006, 09:53 PM

actually i would like to DIY myself also. so if u ar not selling used stuff, can u jus buy the unassembled cables n the connectors? by the way, sato or canare better? wat connectors u used?

Rean-Stecker 3.5mm minijack <--where did u buy it arh PcWork n how bout da price

I saw some Neutrik gold and nickel plated 3.5mm jacks in RS Extended Range. Gold plated ones is RM5.xx.

No wai?

having the line out cable for ipods are better than minijacks to minijacks... the signal is more cleaner.

btw dude got the schema for the ipod dock... if ur interested. http://ipodlinux.org/Dock_Connector

tell me when ur building one lineout <-> mini jack cable... i think a few ipod users might be interested.

how do they perform?

Long time never been to pasar road, may i know roughly where is the IC Electronics located?

urm...not sure since i nva try it yet..but gonna to try it..but at headfi there's lot of peepz make use of neutrik plug too....

hurmm...its a corner lot..juz infront of food court at jalan pasar....to me honestly da shop is a lil bit expensive...even u can ask for discount....coz for canare starquad L-4E6S BK at us u can get for rm 5(usd0.39 per foot) lesser per metre n canare f-12 plug only at usd3.30 ...but dat at us.plus shipping n all....no choice then.....searchin source from singapore now

Singapore no better, unless I missed something. Went around Sim Lim and got S$3.50-S$4. x2.3, here RM7 cheaper hehe.

y don someone get it from distributor in bulk n sell to other forumers? tat wil b cheaper

Try microphone cable. Center got 2 wire, u must joint it together.

good rca connectors...so far i see at I.C electronics..see canare plug there....

can get switchcraft rca from farnell too, but as well

hehe... will go pasar road again by friday to buy some stock. anybody wanna join? =P i go by star anyway,.haha...

sorry for some questiion i didn't answer, i online at ppl's house, rush time. will online at CC back at thursday night to answer some question such as which cable better and so on. sorry.
thanks.


This post has been edited by PcWork: Jun 21 2006, 09:21 PM

question answered in PM.

Actually I am interested in a shorter version of the minijack to minijack interconnect, that 7" cable looks very cute and practical for portable usage. Mind sharing how hard it is to DIY it?

er.. not that hard also
but have to cut the wire just nice, cannot too long, cannot too short, as too long, the metal caps will not be able to screw in. too short, cannot solder nicely.
and.. while soldering., needs some times to heat up the terminal so that the it can stick on the terminal, but doing it slightly too long will also MELT the cable rubber coat.
sort of, u have to do it accurately, and fast.
well it's in my case.
perhaps i will switch to lower power soldering gun to do it again.
by the way, wanna buy one? as i will make one for ifer too. and tomorrow i will go to search for the parts again. and COD with ifer at saturday.

hehe PM me your price. I will see if that's worth it or not. But make sure you test it before sending to me Thanks in advance

i hav found source for some neutrik right-angled mini plugs. but the holes ar too small for Canare L-4E6S to fit. anyone has any recommendations? a salesman told me about Canare 2-conductor cable (forgot the model). is it good? if 2-conductor how to connect them becoz the plugs got 3 conductors?

hyyam85 : by the way, i am feeling weired, why there's a lot ppl using L-4E6S for a stereo connection.. while L-4E6S have 4 pole connector + screen = 5 connection in total. what we need is only 3 for stereo plug.
i had bought couple meters of L-2T2E (forgot the accurate mode) but it's two pole inside + 1 screen.

what i am thinking, is that ppl use L4e6S because in future they can upgrade it to RCA?
and i found out some ppl don't even use the screen ( metal sleeve inside wire) for ground channel in L4e6s, they just use the 4 wire inside, connect each channel one, and ground x2.

by the way, i am thinking selling some of cable.

interested ppl can check here out


Selling DIY Cable

This post has been edited by PcWork: Jun 24 2006, 10:39 PM

today i had sum free time n feel bored at my hostel ...then i make an ic interconnect(to test amp only)for fun which cost me...hurm...less than rm 5....actual cost is around rm3.50 to rm 5..ahhahaha...take me around 10 minutes to do it

gold plated jack...rm 1.50 x 2
pure silver wire .rm 1 for a meter.....use less than that btway..waste a lot of time try to strip those wire..arh..!!



total....rm 3.50 to rm 4

arh..crap webcam....cant take clearer pic

This post has been edited by amirsubhi: Jun 29 2006, 06:19 PM


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Err really pure silver wire kah? From Standwell right? Its not pure silver ler, just silver coated. Using this wire for interconnect hmm, too fragile laa.

arh yeah...silver coated...sorry² forget juz now...kinda fragile..but after sum nice sleeving i think its okay oledi...after all it juz for fun.ahahaha

lol. no after sleeving also. if u touch it hard enough, the place u solder will putus very easily...

get a thick cable little bit lo...

nah..it juz for fun...after all...i see there;s person over headfi do da same thing to...using those small wires...

i had made one of those too.
but i put all three wire inside a 1mm heat shrink tube , then shrink the tube to hold those cable tightly.
workings so far, quite durable too as the heat shrink is quite hard after shrink.

how ever, i tested it comparing to Canare L2T2S. and found out,
Bass is heavier than L2T2S, but a bit muddy...and soundstage is quite big different.
but for it's price, it can be consider sound good already .=P

PcWork... any significant change if the cans do a recabling work?

I was thinking if i'm gonna get u do the mini jack cabling to connect the ipod to my amp using jacks.

might as well ask u to recable my grado sr60 cable as well.

need opinion about this.

on my philips HP890. pair with canare L-2T2S. the sound stage is wide, treble is much more better. clarity and detail too.
bass some how not so boomy. but tight.

my mini digital IC for my upcoming SB3

@alamaklor

after sleeving
the cable really look bling bling

One question about coax interconnects... if I want to use BNC plugs, does that mean the RCA output-input plugs have to be changed too?

alamaklor. how many layer techflex u put?
damn shining man. hahaha
nice cable. and nice handwork.

how'd you connect it otherwise?

2 layer of techflex, 1 X Mylar metallic silver, 1 X carbon. all my cables will look like that

I was hoping BNC plugs would "fit in" RCA plugs anyway xD or is it the other way around? Cables using RCA to fit into BNC plugs... or do both sides need to be BNC

most of the time people use BNC simply because it is more secure. You can DIY a converter or reterminate your cable. It'd be best to either reterminate the cable, or buy/make another one.

here's a pair of 12" Interconnect I just made. It's made of 4 X 20AWG solid core silver plated copper braided with following geometry, and terminated with yarbo silver plugs:
  -
+ +
  -

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Jul 15 2006, 01:12 PM

really look damn nice... wow....

hey guys.....anyone used network cables and turn them into audio cables??

was thinking of making since i have some spare network cables in the office and i have nuttin better to do....

been reading up on it online..but those are kinda insane... going up to the point of braiding 27 pairs

i was thinking of maybe using 8 pairs to build a mini - mini. anyone has any idea as to which cables to use as ground and which cables for right and left??? thanks

actually nakamichi sound space 1 is using LAN cable. as speaker cable.

nakamichi??? and they charge a bomb....sheesh.... hehehe

but i need to know which wire goes where.... friggin blur reading all the stuffs online.... with the cancellation thingy and this and that la....

Made a 1.5m RCA -> 3.5mm cable for a friend, terminated with lok silver point locking connectors and canare on the other end. How much do you think this is worth? Pm me with your suggestion and if anybody's looking for some serious custom cables, do pm me as well. I usually use 12 AWG silver plated copper cables with a particular geometry for my cables

OMG. man. this is seriously good...
=)~
is that
1 X Mylar metallic silver, 1 X carbon ?
the first picture really shiny.
alamak. carbon different with black? i bought only black =(

my small project, changing cheapo black & red wire with canare L2T2S for my speaker (terminal)

sound quality richness

thanz to pcwork for helping me

This post has been edited by radiohead: Aug 5 2006, 02:48 PM

my first ever DIY cable...

i needed a really short splitter so i decided to make one myself for the heck of it.

used 4 pairs of CAT5 cable (twisted), cheapo female minis and a metal housing male mini... all plugs below RM4 each. they dont have any good ones near my house and i aint that free to go jalan pasar...so itll do..

also sleeved it with UV reactive purple cable sleeves cap uglyvamp

i know it aint much compared to the rest here...but it works! sound wise... i dont hear any difference



This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 3 2006, 05:06 PM

hi to all DIY pro's here..
man.. i gonna make my own cable soon..
can u tell me where to get those plugs and canera starquad in good price?
i heard that jalan pasar have a lot..

how do u all make the Y junction of the mini to RCA cable? shrink tube?
i saw from the head-fi there, the starquad have 4 wires inside, that means 2 for each channel RCA, right? after connecting it with the RCA plugs, how do u all make it thick jz like 3rd picture of alamaklor? wat kinda sleeves u all use?

p/s : wat's the techflex for? beauty purposes?

greetings masters...

i was wondering if anyone could help me identify these RCA plugs coz they dont have any markings on them...

the male plugs were bought for RM15 for 1 pair (RM7.50 each)... once again i dont have time to go jln pasar so i just bought them in an electrical spare parts shop in SS2.

the female plugs i cant remember how much per piece

im planning to use them to make RCA splitters (1 male -> 2 female) for audio using CAT5 cables (NOT CAT5e... just normal CAT5).

forgive the picture quality as i took using camera phone (w810i)..heres the pix...


the female connectors



and finally the male (this one actually has quite abit of weight in them..so mebbe its good??)



appreciate any help i can get... thanks in advance

EDIT: forgot to ask... anyone knows where i can get them cable sleeving with various sizes?? want something they sell by the metre....

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 6 2006, 05:27 PM

u mean wat brand is it? no brand, female is generic, male is is a replica of sumthing, still, no brand if that is wat ur asking.

I strongly suggest u not to use CAT5 cables unless ur gonna make a giant cable of at least 4 cat5 cables (which wont fit the plug).

thanks ijan...

me planning to use 4 pairs of cat5 cables (the 4 pairs in 1 cat5 wire)

u saying use 4 aka 16 pairs to make the cable?

yaa..4 pairs of cat5 aka 16 smaller pairs of the twisted super not flexible wires. Ppl are raving of cat5 as a cheap replacement of speaker cable when they are in a massive config as in 4-8-12 even 2 would werk but that would already be big.

U would say, how would i know..i would answer, i built both, i haf both in my hands and my current neutrik+canare cable is far more superior (significantly better, audible difference) compared to the cat5 cables that seems to haf no difference from a chapalang rm5 factory cable.

yes agree with you ijan,
madman, I didnt understand why you want to make 1 male -> 2 female,
why dont you make 1 male -> 2 male.
and why you use cat5 cable, sound no different.
why dont you try component cable,
you can get it at SS2.
or use canare cable.

This post has been edited by SEP910: Sep 6 2006, 07:13 PM

i need to make 1 male -> 2 female as a splitter to 2 seperate output units..... (both output units have different inputs and i already have the cables for them... but the source of both of them are RCA males...hence the 2 females)

using cat5 simply because i have some besides.. i just need a short one.. not a long one... mebbe even less than half a foot long and oso doing it for fun and learning and this will only be my 2nd DIY cable hence all the questions...

and whats component cable? which shop in ss2 has it? the one on same row as MCDonalds or the one behind pelita nasi kandar?? canare can get in ss2 meh?

ill probably be making real mini-mini IC later on when i actually have the time to go Jalan Pasar and get some proper cables and plugs.. but for now.. still in learning stage so playing around here n there

Then, go ahead brother, enjoy the solder fume as i do, it makes me HIGH..haha!

u cant get canare at SS2,
but component cable have.


This post has been edited by SEP910: Sep 6 2006, 07:24 PM

@SEP910
got ur PM bro... thanks alot...

and SS2 electrical spare parts shop dont seem to have any branded plugs... only unbranded ones like i posted above and in page 3.

yes, I already try all the shop there,
why dont u go to amcorp mall,
got hifi shop there.

ok guys... ive finished the RCA splitters that i wanted to do... and here are pix... i still think its not up to standards as the rest here... but me still noob... so still learning.... and i think im improving





now check this out...



i ended up NOT using the CAT5 and decided to get some 4 core shielded cables. no idea what cables they are... but they work so im fine with it

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 14 2006, 01:09 AM

look better after off light
hw much those sleeve?
where to get?

the black and purple cable sleeves i bought from uglyvamp. u can find in bulk section oso... moderno and niclasteoh are bulking them.

the green are vantec cable sleeves.. have to buy the entire set lor...

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 14 2006, 01:16 AM

alamaklor is using techflex. it's a brand. he conduct a bulk before. and many ppl had bought that too.



it's good for speaker cable. but it';s not for interconnect. twisted cable like that easily pick up radio wave. especially if the cat5 cable is using PVC skin. not teflon.
i had made one super mini inter connect of stereo using the method. and the material is teflon skin silver coated cable.
sound. not as good as canare.and if our hand is near by the wire. it will humm heavily.


mADmAN
suggestion for you. try to sleeve the join part with some cloth sleeve before heatshrink it. it will help to hold the wire in place. and maybe make the wire same in diameter. looks better.
=)


Editted : Typo : hole Aka Hold

This post has been edited by PcWork: Sep 15 2006, 06:10 PM

w00t! thanks for the tip!! will remember that... and will also have to remember to get bigger heatshrinks

my latest creation

this is the 3rd DIY cable ive made.. and i think this one looks hell of alot better than the previous 2.. mebbe coz its easy... 1 plug to 1 plug instead of the previous 2 which were splitters. anyway...here it is...



like the sleeving?

and here it is in action with my previous RCA splitters



the white thingy cables are actually monster cables meant for iPod

plugs are RM3.50 per piece in SS2. and used 2-core shielded microphone cable. it states on the cable "Maruni Professional Microphone Cable Japan"

This post has been edited by mADmAN: Sep 20 2006, 09:34 PM

very good job madman

wat sleeving is that on ur 3rd DIY cable?

believe it or not....




theyre shoelaces...yep im serious.. them strings u use to tie ur shoes. shoelaces

i think im hooked on this DIY cable thing so heres another one.. using 4core shielded cable. sleeving is the same as above only diff colour.. plugs oso same as above.

don't buy maruni brother.... =P
why? you know why i say that.. =P


where do you get shoelace ? i want to buy too. for cheap use. and some cable i need to bend it. those techflex some time quite hard.

dont buy maruni?? why man?? that bad meh? i know they aint as good as canare la but i dun wanna go through the hassle of driving to jalan pasar to get the canares just yet. besides.. its just for playing first... and ive already bought like 20 metres 2 days ago for me to play with

the shoelaces i bought from a stall in 1Utama. on the 3rd floor in the new wing. cant remember exact details...but its there. its a stall with TONNES of shoelaces on them with many kinds of funky designs. take note theyre not sold by the meter.. theyre sold as normal shoelace length which is about 1 meter per piece.

a colleague of mine also told me of some shops in Jalan TAR that sells shoelaces by the meter but dunno whether they have them funky designs or not. and i dunno where them shops are too

finished 3 mini-mini ICs today.... all using the maruni microphone cables with unknown RM3 plugs and sleeved with more shoelaces

i haf to say, they are ROCKING KEWL!

Hahahha!..looks like its meant for those who like to play pirate music?

wahaha..dats awesome man

cap pirate cable

I'd like to see you try market them to rich middle-aged audiophiles for at least RM8000

reminds me to "Pirates of Caribbean"....the curse makes people attracted LOL

pirate??

never thought of it that way man... i used skulls because i kinda have a thing for skulls

MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA...... find me a dude whos willing to pay RM8k for those cables and ill sell it to him for half price at RM4k

dude. that's very cool..
try make it shorter. many female ipod user will buy from u. but get those cute cute pattern one. sure they love it... er.. does female usually use an headamp?

you must be joking those does look good, but i doubt it sounds as good as it looks.

People buy cables for good looks, not sound dude It's a proven fact after so many blind tests. But you can compare shielded with unshielded, copper and silver and plug matching (impedence mismatch FTW), but still, even twisted shielded silver is still cheaper than what most people out there say about boutique cables.

Example : Audiophiles say shorter is better, but in the case of Impedence mismatch and reflective signalling, longer might be better because it serves to attenuate the reflection before it can affect the source.

Networking easily teaches you how to spot a bad cable and characteristics you might be looking for. Owh how i love RG58 cable Plus Vampire tap FTW