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wcpon
post Nov 25 2014, 09:27 PM

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Any ideas of the comparison between Sony HT-CT370 vs Philips HTL3140B/12 ?
Which one you guys prefer?

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post Nov 26 2014, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(nobody82 @ Nov 26 2014, 10:45 AM)
whathifi has good review on this

philips htl5140
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Do you have any review of Sony HT-CT370 vs Philips HTL3140B/12 ??
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post Dec 6 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(nobody82 @ Aug 4 2014, 03:57 PM)
any1 try philips htl6140b? any feedback/review?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLnech1drA
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did you bought this?
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post Dec 15 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 14 2014, 09:59 AM)
Haven't heard it.
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Heard about Pioneer SBX-N700?
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post Dec 15 2014, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 15 2014, 10:56 AM)
I mean I know about the XT1, just haven't heard it in person. Was never a fan of soundplates though, poor dynamics. RM999 for a soundplate is also way too expensive for the sound quality you'll get.

Now, I may be wrong and the XT1 may actually sound quite good. But I'm willing to bet that the XT1 certainly isn't going to sound as good as the similarly priced CT370.

Yes. It's quite a balanced sounding soundbar, good stereo image and very fluid mids (for its class that is). Bass is a little too floaty though, not sure why Pioneer didn't go with the sub on the SB23W though, as that is more balanced and still kicks hard enough. Too bad the N700 does have some design flaws, which is no HDMI input.

It does have HDMI out which is ARC compatible, so basically you'd have to control your sources from your TV's inputs instead. Sucks if your TV has too little inputs or if your TV just doesn't want to work with the ARC function on the soundbar. Know that ARC isn't always fool-proof like optical or standard line-in/out connections, often times it'll work but when it doesn't then you can be at a total loss.

I like the N700 and since it has reduced in price, it's actually not a bad deal if you have enough HDMI inputs on your TV and don't mind just using optical. I still think there are better choices out there though.
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Bro, Thanks for your information.. smile.gif
Currently, Harvey Norman is selling RM 1,699
Not sure is it worth for money, that's why asking around to get some review on that.

I'm thinking to get soundbar because of I just staying in condo, I feel Home Theater system may not be suitable in condo.

My LG TV got 3 HDMI included 1 HDMI ARC.. want to check with you, If my TV HDMI ARC connect to the N700 HDMI ARC...
Is it possible, I can connect other devices (DVD/Blur Ray) to TV HDMI and will get the sound from soundbar? Correct me if I am wrong...

Besides that, Is there any soundbar that you recommend and got a balanced sounding soundbar like N700??
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post Dec 17 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 16 2014, 08:21 AM)
I don't think it is worth the money to be honest. Personally, I feel there's a design flaw with it that just doesn't justify its price even after the price cut. It sound decent enough, but I'd trade it for the cheaper Sony CT770 instead.

Yes your other devices will work through HDMI ARC, assuming if there are no ARC issues.

Other soundbars around the 1.5k range that I can recommend is the Sony CT770 and the Pioneer SPSB23W.
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Hi SSJBen,
Actually I tested CT770, but I feel that the sound quality and bass not as good as N700...
Btw, you trade in N700 and buy CT770??

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post Dec 21 2014, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 20 2014, 02:37 AM)
If the HTL9100 can be had for under RM2.3k then yes, go for it. Pretty sure there will be shops selling them for clearance to make way for the B5. Not much of a huge difference between them really, the B5 does have better battery life (this is as claimed, I won't say so until I have it tested). Also not sure if they tweaked the drivers or anything like that as well.
Did you test the CT770 with default settings? Because if so, then yeah the CT770 is very bloaty sounding out of the box. The bass will mud-up the lower mids way too much and there's very little air in the treble. I've said it earlier, the CT770 needs to have its bass toned down a few notches and also have the EQ set to vocal to be more balanced.

The N700 will always sound better, but as I said before, I'd trade up the slightly better sound quality for a more versatile system (3 HDMI inputs on the CT770 with low input lag is great thing). Otherwise you know, going for the almost barebones Pioneer SWS23 is the better choice.
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Thanks for your information..
That day I tested the N700 again... but this time N700 not place inside the room.. the sound quality not so nice...
Thinking to get something cheaper... maybe can consider Sony or Philips..
Do you have any comments on Philips also? example, HTL5140 or HTL6140 ?


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post Dec 22 2014, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Dec 22 2014, 09:25 AM)
Soundbars will never be good at wide open space. They'll of course still sound better than those puny TV speakers, but buying a soundbar for a wide living room (like in a bungallow or semi-D) isn't a very good decision. Soundbars are always best for bedrooms where space is an issue for larger multi-channel setups.

Have not heard the HTL5140 yet, so no judgements on that.

The HTL6140 thoug... I was dissapointed by it. It was filled with a lot of promises, it's supposed to be Philips midrange soundbar but it somehow just doesn't live up to it.
The 6140 has a rather good soundstage, but that's all there is to it. Everything else felt dull, there isn't the forward detailed mids that Philips other soundbars are known for (particularly the cheap 2140 series). The sub is either too loose or does not have enough depth, it's inconsistent and doesn't fit a wide range of genres. Up top in the treble, there's no energy at all. The high mids does not synergise well going into the trebles, it sounds tinny and has a very odd balance that just somehow doesn't work.

So no, I don't recommend the 6140. The 5140 seems interesting though, but I haven't had the chance to test it out yet.
Note: If the 9100 is cheaper, just go for the 9100.
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Really appreciate for your sharing...
Finally, I bought the 5140... laugh.gif
So far I feel not bad... just that, the bass not as powerful as CT770.. the voice is clear... more like balance...
hopefully it is good ~ smile.gif
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post Dec 22 2014, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Enilyks34 @ Dec 22 2014, 06:43 PM)
Where did you get the 5140? Can't seem to find any deals online. hmm.gif
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I got it from Harvey Norman...
RM 1,099

Cannot get it from Online deal and other shop now... Only found in Harvey Norman..
The promotion until 4th Jan 2015..

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post Dec 23 2014, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(Enilyks34 @ Dec 22 2014, 06:54 PM)
I see, thanks. If possible, can you test the dialogue and soundstage of movies/music under low volumes?
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Tested... everything is fine..
The only downside is my LG TV using HDMI ARC connected to the soundbar..
When I off my TV and on my TV again... the sound cannot sync with the soundbar...
don't know is the TV problem or the soundbar... I need to go to TV settings and select HDMI ARC to activate the sound again...

Maybe I will buy optical cable to try.... blink.gif
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post Dec 25 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(blankerroo @ Dec 24 2014, 12:45 AM)
I also bought myself today the Philips HTL5140. Changed my mind at the last minute from buying HTL9100 due to the large price difference and the fact that I won't practically really be using the 5.1 channel feature in the near future, not while my kids are still small...

I'm not an audiophile so I can't compare accurately how good the HTL5140 is compared to other models, but it really is a huge difference when compared to using my stock TV speakers. Much better. I can't believe I survived this long listening to the stock TV speakers only...

As for the sync problem that wcpon experienced, so far I haven't encountered it yet. I'm using Sharp LED TV and HDMI ARC also. So far so good.
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Hi.. welcome to HTL5140 family... hahahaa...
I guess is my LG TV not compatible with the soundbar..
But is ok, just need to select the soundbar from TV again every on/off TV... a little bit trouble...
For sound quality.. it is quite nice...
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post Mar 8 2015, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(niel @ Mar 7 2015, 12:53 PM)
i read a few of you have philips 5140. one problem bugging me with this is once on standby, the last volume level will not be saved and revert back to default at level 18.

anyone has  this issue? i am using optical connection.
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I'm using HDMI ARC, no issues on this.

 

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