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andrekua2
post Oct 4 2022, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Oct 2 2022, 10:51 AM)
My first home theater setup was a cheap sony 5.1 bluray player with 300w total output. Volume had to be 80 and above if I really want to enjoy the sound. After few years it started giving error push power protect if I use it for long hour sessions, dropping the volume to 60 something would solve the issue. It was like cpu throttling in pc whenever a temperature threshold is reached.

I believe nowadays speakers are made from better materials, 175w maybe sounds a bit low but it probably good enough to fill a small living room. But then asking 1.9k for it is ridiculous.
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I was concerned as well but let's see. The msrp is a little high though at 2.4k but they did offer it at 1.8k during payday last month. Now it seems to be around 2k. It was lacking DTS support though but I will only used it for streaming.

I actually ordered a set from Taobao few days ago and it was around 1.32k shipped via sea. I have forgotten about the import duty though. Let's hope they will close one eye.
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post Oct 14 2022, 12:51 PM

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My Edifier B70 (Malaysia version is B700) finally arrived.

Much cheaper than buying locally... RM1,317 including sea freight. Luckily no kena import duty.



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post Oct 16 2022, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 15 2022, 01:42 PM)
Tell us your quick experience.

Rm1317 that makes it the cheapest Dolby Atmos sound bar.
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I still havent registered for Netflix yet to try Dolby Atmos. I also never tried other soundbar before to give a good impression. I'm just going to compare it with what I'm using previously which is a set of Edifier S730 connected via a USB DAC.

The loudness is enough for me at 90% volume (seated 20ft away). The way it filled the living room is different compared to a 2.1 speaker. The subwoofer is okay at bass+3 but no match for the 150w S730 subwoofer. The good is that the subwoofer is not over powering, thus even playing (midnight) at 90% volume also didnt get complaints from wife upstairs.

If Edifier would add another 25-50w for the subwoofer, I think it would be even better. Even though the soundbar is listed as 7.1.2, the front L R Center driver are really small, almost like tweeter size. Perhaps that's what help with the clear vocals.

Overall, kinda satisfied with it since it only cost 1.1k++ and the rest are basically shipping charges.

QUOTE(sanosizo @ Oct 15 2022, 08:56 PM)
If got issue how to claim warranty?
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I don't really worry about product quality with Edifier.
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post Oct 19 2022, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(wong_86 @ Oct 17 2022, 02:54 PM)
That cheap, two HDMI input 4k HDR passthrough ? How about center sound ? clear and loud ?
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It did mention hdmi 2.1 and also HDR pass through but there's no mention if one or both port support them.

Vocals is clear. I think soundbar characteristic tends to favor vocals since there's so many small driver. Having said that, my volume level is between 70~90% depending on content. Plus I'm seated 20ft away.
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post Oct 20 2022, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 19 2022, 09:40 PM)
20 ft away ? You have a big house !
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Well, it is a 30+ years old house therefore the layout partly contributed to the extra space in living room. Newer houses would have the direct access to the back of the house and a front section half sealed for living room. Parents wanted the altar to face the main entrance thus TV is placed on left side. Sofa can only placed to the right wall and wall besides main entrance. Unless spent some money to hack a smaller entrance on the right side to create a direct access to the back of the house, this is what I have to live with. Inefficient usage of space. It was kinda useful at times when you have little ones and they have larger space to train on a walker.

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post Oct 28 2022, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 25 2022, 10:29 PM)
Wish to get some comments/inputs about soundbar in these two categories :-

1. Soundbar around rm1600. Can use Samsung HW Q600B as example.

2. Soundbar around rm2400. Can use Samsung HW Q800 as example.

Price difference rm800.

My question. Are there big difference in sound quality and effects in the two ? In other words, is the additional rm800 really worth it ?
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You need to try them out yourself. Not all the RM800 went into sound quality.

Q800B:

1. WiFi - you can control the soundbar from your smartphone app
2. Wireless Dolby Atmos - as the name suggest, you do not need to attach cable to get wireless dolby atmos with certain Samsung TV
3. 5.1.2 - you get 2 more side firing speaker on the soundbar for better surround


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post Oct 28 2022, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 28 2022, 07:11 PM)
For Samsung q800b, what other brand models are in the same competition space ? Cannot find something equivalent from Sony. How is LG S90QY compared Samsung ?
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I can't answer you since I have never listened nor know anything about other soundbar.

I only searched about Samsung since my sister work in Samsung and sometimes I googled about the specs to see whether it's worth buying or not. In the end, I settled for the cheaper Edifier since I only want Dolby Atmos and has no use for DTS:X.


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post Oct 31 2022, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(w'lock @ Oct 30 2022, 07:44 PM)
Hi,
Need to confirm if I send Dolby True HD or DTS-X signal to TV with only Arc connection will it downgrade it to DD 5.1 / DTS HD or just straight to 2 channels?  Or I simply won't get any sound?

Looking at Bose 900 or Sonos ARC, not going for rear speakers.  A7000 a bit too expensive. So it will be from player direct to tv , then tv to soundbar.

I have LG C8 which doesn't hv e-ARC,  My movie collection played thru Zidoo Z9X connected to NAS.
Some of the files only have DTS codec.
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Is that how it's supposed to work? Is it not from zidoo to soundbar hdmi, which then filter the sound and only send the digital image signal to the tv via arc hdmi?

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post Feb 3 2023, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(minano0001 @ Feb 3 2023, 02:22 PM)
get samsung q600b. it supports samsung q symphony. it should work with a new samsung tv. q symphony combines sound from your soundbar with your tv speakers
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Sometimes I don't understand the logic of this.

I buy soundbar because tv speakers suck. Then you buy a soundbar but still pair with tv speaker to use together. Doesn't it defeat the purpose of getting a soundbar in the first place.
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post Feb 3 2023, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 3 2023, 04:05 PM)
Sure, soundbar sounds better than TV speakers but the ridiculous price you pay for such sound quality is unbelievable.
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I would not want to delve too much into the pricing. I can only say there are a lot of premiums involved including licensing for DOLBY/DTS, marketing costs etc when you go for branded name.
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post Feb 16 2023, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(benyowet @ Feb 13 2023, 05:42 PM)
Alright guys. I've narrowed it down to 2 choices, hope all the experts here can share their inputs here:

1. Sony G700
2. Edifier B700

I chose those two because my TV has eARC. Initially plan to get a real 5.1 system but those didn't support eARC within my budget. So I thought might as well fully utilise my TV sound system.

Both of them share the similar price range too.

Thank you =)
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Keep in mind that B700 didn't support DTS. Only Dolby.
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post Feb 17 2023, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(benyowet @ Feb 17 2023, 07:43 AM)
Yes, aware of that. Thank you  :thumbsup:
do you happened to use any of them?
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I'm using the China version, B70. Same speaker different model number. Bought it from Taobao instead and lucky didnt get taxed by kastam. I think around 13xx including shipping.

I think hard to find reviews for this model since B series is low end. Not very powerful but enough to fill my living room (my living room is a bit big, 22ft x 15ft). Subwoofer is a bit small for my liking but does it job somewhat. Probably more suited for those living in condo. Sometimes when I watched movies on hotstar, I crank it up to 100%.

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post May 19 2023, 11:13 AM

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Q990C is on sale if you have EPP account. RM3580
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post May 19 2023, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(xxxgkssixxx @ May 19 2023, 11:21 AM)
What is EPP account?
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Employee Purchase Program... if you work with MNC, eligible.
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post May 19 2023, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(xxxgkssixxx @ May 19 2023, 11:40 AM)
All MNC or Samsung employee only? I just tried to sign up but it says my email address not valid (both personal and company email also doesn't work)

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Your company did not sign up with Samsung? My sister working in Grab also can get.
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post May 22 2023, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ May 21 2023, 01:42 PM)
Hi there,

I am having an issue with Q990B soundbar linked with Sony A80J TV. Sometimes when I on the TV, the soundbar is on but no sound. I have to switch the sound output from Speaker to TV then back to Speaker. Only then the sound will be back.

Is this a known compatibility issue and if some of you folks who have Q990B soundbar suffers from similar issue? I checked with Sony they ask me check with Samsung and vice versa....
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I think this is an issue with Sony or Google TV. I'm using Edifier B700 and it does that too sometimes. I think better to pause playback and press return to main menu of the app before pressing home. Sometimes I just play a video on YouTube and change to another video until I get sound. When everything else doesn't work, I would restart the TV. It only happen when TV is being put on standby for some time. I'm using X90J.
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post May 23 2023, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(vin6 @ May 23 2023, 10:15 AM)
Really depending your source and your tv passthru capability . Just like I'm using fire stick tv 4k for my movies and download - dolby atmos not so great but when i use tv USB to passthru audio then dolby atmos becomes great and clear . You should test your system with the dolby atmos test file - it will run thru each of the soundbar channels. if its accurate then it should be fine. Placement of rear speakers also very important - last time i just place rear speaker on chair level below ear level the effect was horrible and now when i finally got my stand - Just wow so much difference.

Learn to tweak your system then you will be satisfied .
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How did you manage to passthrough atmos through USB?
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post May 24 2023, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(swatch10 @ May 24 2023, 09:01 AM)
U got Edifier B700? How was it? I am choosing between this with Samsung Q800B.
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I bought it from Taobao but it is known as B70 there. I cant say for the experience though since I'm seated quite far from it (roughly 16ft or more away from the TV). I just love how it filled the living room, compared to my Edifier S730 which is more powerful but a bit lacking when it comes to overall feel.
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post Jun 10 2024, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jun 10 2024, 09:11 AM)
Xbox Series X might need cause the Dolby Atmos delay issue ,lol ..

However, wait till i have time only check again sad.gif

Pocket burnt a hole right now.
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hdmi2.1 is only necessary for 4k120fps ... audio shouldnt need that much bandwidth

 

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