guys i have access to behringer stuffs at dealer prices WITH WARRANY so im planning to be a dealer for behringer products.so im asking would you buy behringer stuffs?looking for demands first then if i can see the potential only then will i open these products for sale at LYN.Honestly i think their products are seriously good and are on par and or better then their more expensive counterparts.

i have used behringer b4...
tot they were pretty good for its price

thanks mate..what did you own?their stack amps are seriously good..better than the newer marshalls anyday man.and its bloody cheap too.can get a halfstack for around rm2000-2200

Behringer is good for the price. But if I had $$$ i would not invest in behringer guitar amps.

why not?my dealer who is a producer and currently owns his own studio and label (GeckoMusic), And he has played alongside Steve Vai,The rolling stones,Produced for Sheryl Crow,produced for some taiwanese and HK bands,has his own Ibanez Signature series swears by behringer..just a few weeks ago there is this concert and the amps that are provided are marshalls and a behringer and the marshall literally blew up because it cant take it where the behringer easily surpasses it..you`re in munich right?He has a Branch in germany too.

i have a behringer wah. well, i dont think everything from them is great, im no judge neither. but for the buck, i win.

and whoever ur dealer dude is , mention his name. then it will really help sell behringer's products.

of course not everything from them are great..Can i put his name here?have to ask permission from him first i guess haha!!

I know Behringer products. I have used alot of them myself. And i find them personally only average. Which is why i said it is good for the price. There are certain things that i would buy, but guitar amps i would rather go for other mid range products. Like peaveys or Laneys (tube of course). On the studio side, behringer puts up alot of competition because the high end ones are outrageously expensive. And not much different in terms of performance.

My lead guitarist is a sound engineer and producer himself and he uses behringers for recording purposes too. But there is no sound like tube sound. Which is why i am not a big marshall SS fan myself (but i am assuming the marshall that blew was tube?). Speaking quite frankly....no offense intended... it's not really a big deal that the marshall blew up and the behringer didnt. Marshalls are i believe overrated. Just like Boogies. It's just the name.

Whatever I said here ONLY applies to guitar amplification. For studio products i strongly stand behind behringers (except for monitors...there are better ones out there). I personally use behringer compressors and headphones and am truly satisfied with them.

I have a behringer wah. for the $$$ quite decent i guess. my skills don't warrant a $600 vox wah yet

just to make things right :

"has his own Ibanez Signature series"

really ? so what's his name ? there are only a dizain persons on earth to have a signature serie at Ibanez. Maybe it is a custom guitar. So he has a custom ibanez guitar, but he prefers to play on a stock behringer guitar ? Frankly, that'd be extremely weird. And I doubt it.

"marshall literally blew up because it cant take it where the behringer easily surpasses it"

where does the behringer surpasses a marshall amp ? in raw power ? in sound quality ? in the electrical cord length ? in the number of knobs ? That's not a relevant sentence.

"my dealer who is a producer"

so your behringer distributor is a music producer, which swears by Behringer products. Well, that sounds very logical to my ears, if I assume his business is to try to sell to people what he's distributing However I don't think the guy is playing on Behringer guitars, plugged in Behringer amps. Maybe he's just referring to some studio equipments.

I don't mean to be impolite, nor agressive. I just want to moderate what you're saying about your products, so that musicians/beginners won't just swallow all those informations as facts.

That's the way Pix !

I was just about to ask those questions too.

And pornstar, you better have the answers ..... we're not Musicians' who was born yesterday.

"has his own Ibanez Signature series"

really ? so what's his name ? there are only a dizain persons on earth to have a signature serie at Ibanez. Maybe it is a custom guitar. So he has a custom ibanez guitar, but he prefers to play on a stock behringer guitar ? Frankly, that'd be extremely weird. And I doubt it.

--His Name is Daniel Foo his guitars is no more in production though but i`ll gladly post up some pics.Its NOT a custom guitar its a signature series and reason its no more in production is because he`s not a full time musician anymore so ibanez stopped the series.

"marshall literally blew up because it cant take it where the behringer easily surpasses it"

where does the behringer surpasses a marshall amp ? in raw power ? in sound quality ? in the electrical cord length ? in the number of knobs ? That's not a relevant sentence.

--In terms of durability and sound quality.Thats not my first time seeing a marshall amp blow.Don get me wrong im not trying to discredit any brands here but its based on my experience with these particular brands .Marshalls used to be good.Old marshall amps are good but not the new ones.Their MG series amps is actually made by a company in india and they just bought over the company.Sounds horrible.

"my dealer who is a producer"

so your behringer distributor is a music producer, which swears by Behringer products. Well, that sounds very logical to my ears, if I assume his business is to try to sell to people what he's distributing However I don't think the guy is playing on Behringer guitars, plugged in Behringer amps. Maybe he's just referring to some studio equipments.

--of course hes not playing on behringer guitars..but he is playing on behringer amps.His business is doing recordings and he also does acoustics.


I don't mean to be impolite, nor agressive. I just want to moderate what you're saying about your products, so that musicians/beginners won't just swallow all those informations as facts.

--No harm done..i did feel like my posting was too shallow.Forgive me for that.

On a more serious note..if any of you wants to do an album you guys can contact me.The studio is based in melaka.we offer professional quality recording without burning a hole in your pocket.We have a website but its nothing much lah www.geckomusic.net

This post has been edited by pornstar: Jun 16 2006, 11:21 AM

i own a behringer and i won't mind getting another one..
quality is good although i have heard of some batches that are a bit of a handful.. but mine has been good...

i use behringer products and my fav would be the lx1 pro (also known as vamp pro). ive tested the line6podxt live with all the packs installed and i still prefer this. not to say this is better, its a matter of taste as this sounds more raw and real. of course, the real amp would be way better. my church uses some behringer racks too, not just because of the price(we have alot of high end racks, mics, speakers, etc).

however, behringer surpassing marshall? come on, maybe a MG and some low series in terms of sound quality. behringer models amps, and nth beats the real thing. not to mention real tubes will react differently. durability? ive seen the construction of their amps, i'm not considering one! just one case of a marshall blowing up before a behringer doesnt mean behringer is so much more durable. alot of factors involved. who knows the marshall was older, or the guitarist was playing at full whereas the other wasnt, heck it could even be a freak accident.

as for recording, of course behringer products can be used to get a nice tone. take note that its not just the behringer involved in the recording process, extremely good equipments to MIX and MASTER is critical to achieving great tone. im sure uve heard and read of many cases where legendary guitarist use cheap or no brand guitars to record their stuff.

well..... behringer stomps are prolly real good deals for the money
they sound decent with really good pricing

however a behringer stack surpassing a marshall?? probably MG series...
i dont think a solidstate behringer can surpass the real thing its trying to emulate...

I would keep my fingers away from behringer mixing desks as well.

But like i said, if you want to consider being a dealer, i guess it would be worth it. The price range is good for hobby musicians/studios etc.... I guess you could make a living out of it.

hmmm... i;ve seen many places using behringer mixers

price shud play a big role, but the audio quality ought to be relatively good for its price right?

so plz do provide some info y u think so bro, im curious

love learning new stuff

My friend has a Behringer SS amp, which is much better that the Marshall MG & AVT series imo... and it's cheaper!

Anyway, what are we discussing here? AFAIK, Behringer copies someone else's products and replaces the components with cheaper counterparts.

for one, their knob functions dont respond as well as better mixers. such as EQ.

echobrainproject said it all

not only the EQ, the faders and aux sends are also quite weird. The response is almost like nothing, and then suddenly it is too loud, or too soft. Thats what i feel anyway. Or maybe i just tested a defect mixing desk. Could be possible....

As for mixing desks, i believe they copy mackie desks. And i think we are giving our opinion on behringer products? correct me if i'm wrong though....

Guys, i think the thread starter wants to find out if any of you wants to get Behringer products from him.

Interested or not interested ? Don't go off topic

wah.... liddat ar
lol. thats bad then, hahaha imagine using it during recording or live
instant tremolo
hahahah

i've spent around 2k of behringer audio stuff.. i haven't bought any guitar products.. planning to fetch a gdi for guitar later this month since its got good reviews. btw, currently i own

ub2222fx
ub1204fx
di100

i can trust behringer mixers.. but when compared to more branded consoles.. the behringers channels eqs couldn't easily cut out. :sigh:

hehehe....i said no and he asked me why ma (or was it somebody else )...so i explaining why
Maybe got to carried away (not that i anti behringer or anything....)

definitely, if the price and variety is right.. would like to check out the blues driver and the to800 tube-screamer clone

heard the blues driver clone did an awesome job!
and the to800 supposed to be a ts808 copy right?? behringer marketted it with the same [i tihnk] components that made the 808 so famous

threadstarter might want to start a bulk thread..?

yeah the to800 is based on the ts808... probably cost Rm100

pornstar, i read your answer (start of the thread), thanks for elaborating

youre welcome..im currently getting to be an authorized dealer for behringer and will be setting up an e-commerce website so you all can view and place orders there..will be selling quite a number of things..now very busy getting things done.And thanks everyone for their input

a better thing to do is... sponsor lowyat.net a bit... and get a your own section for doing this business... eg. LG Chocolate!

no need for financial support nowadays... LYN is happy by itself. we're working out a solution for shops or other commercal usages of this forum. Hang on few more weeks, it will come up eventually.

pornstar,
how much is the gm108 cost??

Around rm350..have to recheck..new prices just arrived and i havent printed out my copy yet

hey pornstar help me check price for behringer bcr2000 though... might be interested but definately not this few months time. Just pm me will do thanks ya..

Cheers

behringer suck..monitor speaker no good..preamp no good..mixer no good..reverb no good..eq no good..compressor no good..

only a few kit is usable..like their 8-channel preamp/ad/da ADA-8000, good for the money for what you get.. the measurement microphone ECM-8000..can use to recording..sounded quite flat..recording acoustic guitar or overhead can be sound good..other then that..all crap..behringer suck..

but it's good to start as low end gear when no budget..price will win?? i dont know?? good luck and happy with making music..

liveforGear

speaking from a soundman point of view, i'd consider to purchase behringer only if i'm given a shoestring budget. Honestly, behringer equipments (compressors, eq, effects, mixers, power amps) do give a good value for money. However, if possible, i'd steer clear from behringer and go for higher quality stuff eg Yamaha, mackie, soundcraft or apogee.

Our chinese church just purchased a full set of PA system (mostly behringer) and i had a chance to play with it for a couple months (when they need to train up new soundcrew). They got the eurodesk and honestly i was kinda dissapointed with the constructions. The knobs feels plasticky and you can feel the rough edges. A couple faders got stuck while in operation. This tells me that they really skim on the manufacturing cost. the QA is just isn't there. The behringer compressor also had some problem where it gave out a slight hum (had to go through all the equipment to isolate the source) and wouldn't compress right. I swap it with our existing alesis compressor and the prob goes away.

Another word of caution to behringer power amp users. Keep it well ventilated as it tend ot run very hot at times. Had to get them to put the power amp at the top of the rack with a custom made blower system at the bottom. Not to mention having to waste 2 slots to keep proper airflow. Might not work well with those who use a rack system in thigh spaces.

As a musician and guitarist, i'd still stick with my AER and Trace Acoustic amps. Nothing beats them. Would like to get my hands on a laney valve.. but no chance yet.

This post has been edited by raist86: Sep 30 2006, 02:03 AM

i was told bout Behringer speakers hav smtn like +db
which is not very good cause gud1s offer 0db or even -db thingy

wast db??

n the same guy told me that behringer hav sharper highs, treble sound more than other market speakers....
smtn smtn...

lost
drown...

where you read that about behringer?
anyway at 0db its gonna be a loud or hot sound.
above 0db you get clipping/distortion.
db - decibel.

i heard from a..coach...for my hostel band...
he do recordings and stuffs and so on...

crazychris:
what do u mean by +dB?

and above 0 dB doesnt necessarily mean clipping and dist. You just have to bear in mind that when you cross the 0 dB mark clipping and/or distortion may happen. So to be safe try to stay below 0 dB.

Btw, sound techs define 0 dB differently from physicians. Physically speaking, 0 dB is almost absolutely quiet ( can't really remember how many W/m² 0 dB is...but the human ear won't pick it up). Where as 0 dB to a sound tech means the voltage measured at the mixers output jacks is 1.55 V and they use the 1 kHz sinus wave to measure it. Has alot to do with mastering and mixing.

But i still don't get your question about the + dB thing...

behringer product isn't bad....... quality is ok lar.....

I hope pornstar will make it happen.

err, not to put behringer at the lousiest manufacturer on earth or anything, but has anyone used anything that is crappier than behringer? If so do share because i am currently kind of helping to build up a mini recording studio in my church and am trying to avoid certain behringer products (like mixers, monitors and compressors...and EQs)

hope this post somehow fits into this thread. If not mods can just campak it somewhere. Thanks

hiya all. My church is planning to get some di's for the instruments to route them to the mixer so we have more control over the overall sound. Any recommendation on cheap/value for money di's? I wanted to suggest Behringer but seeing all these posts...I think I'll hear your suggestions first

their DI are alright. not as bad as other products of theirs. dont expect top notch DIs but theyre ok. my church(in kuching) uses some, even though we also have BOSS DIs and dbx

I also think the behringer noisegates are better than the dbx digital ones. The dbx gates make clicking sounds when the kick in. Although usually the noise gates come together with the compressors in which dbx definitely does a better job.

but dbx mic preamps are nice

tremonti uses behringer eq

yeap he does. the rack one

There is always pros and cons on brands. It is good at least someone in LYN doing music instruments bulk.

Now my turn to ask... who can get the cheapest behringer products here? Any recommendations?

havent been in here in a long time.thought this thread is dead but there is still replies.Anyways we've just got our website up but theres not much stuff in it yet though.feel free to visit at http://www.geckomusic.net/ and leave some constructive criticism..Thank you.

ah...hi pornstar.

i was surfing thru some behringer mixers. i'm wondering if you can obtain them at better prices than midi specialist.

http://www.midispecialist.com/Pricelist_4.html

how about the XENYX line of mixers?

thanks


btw, visited your site. nice!

thx for that pricelist...
but...
MIDI Foot Controller FCB1010 RM1,040.00
What the.... so freakin overpriced! someone was selling in singapore almost brand new for 150SGD only.

i knw. it's insane the prices there. some of the soundcards can be had for much less in spore. tht's why im asking pornstar.

Now I know where Gecko located.....
Behringer stuffs.. so far I know it is good for the price.. but quality wise.. for my own taste is consider not bad .. Sometimes because of the price, i will say "why not i give it a try".. but so far I have only purchase the Behringer Wah (hell babe) for a try... emmm
to me, the range not so high enough.. frequency.. when i on the distortion.. however it is okie when i play it with clean sound

whoa! WHERE? wouldnt mind getting it for sgd150

yeah its a very good price. I saw in a singaporean forum. sold adi. soft.com.sg
I'm still looking for a good second hand midi controller. Trying to find a Roland FC200. The only reason why I'm considering the FCB1010 is coz it's cheap.

am already have a behringer product.. ok lah..
cheap price , good quality .

another behringer user here. i have the HB01 wah pedal.
honestly, it's a real bang for the buck for an entry level wah. if you know how to mod it, it gets even better. it may not sound as good as a crybaby, but at rm150, i ain't complaining .
although i haven't tried many behringer product, i have to admit, they do have some good quality products around.

my 2 cents.

Ooooooh. The Crybaby from Hell knock-off! For RM150, I think it's a good starter Metal Wah......
Post some sound samples!

recording it through my RM10 pc mic is practically unjust.

If I were to give Behringer a position...it would be slightly above the stuff that you find at Pasar Road. Their general build quality is not great. I'm sure many people have reason to believe that they skimp on components to give you a rock bottom price.

Behringer is also well known as a "copycat"...which is why sometimes their equipment turn out pretty well.

On another note however, there are also some brands which have also gone in the cost cutting direction. They simply sell rebadged OEM equipment...perhaps with some slight changes, but usually not.

To put it simply...Behringer is good for the money...but i'd always spend a little more to get some real quality.

Behringer Monitor speaker users hear....it's a good brand...

Which Monitor u guy using?? M20? M40? the bigger B series?

the M20 are seriously cheap.. but donno how good is it..

I am a behringer dealer my self..

I am a behringer wah pedal user,and honestly speaking,it sucks.Not even 1 week of having it,the upper part of the wah was loose already although I rocked it gently.The damn thing tilted like mad,and I had to sent it back for repair.After that,I realised that it can't bypass,drowning my tone to hell.After a few months of having it,I had to keep on adjusting the bar that holds the rocking part with the bottom part so that the upper part won't fall off.Also,the frequency range quite low.Have to max it,boost it to hear the effect.I just keep in in the cupboard now for less headache.In a nutshell,it sucks bad and if you're serious bout having a wah pedal,save up for a Dunlop Crybaby.I wish I didn't buy this piece of crap.Waste money for this,end up keeping in the cupboard.

yeayea me too.

hey people, i'm not to promote myself here so hopefully no misunderstandings around here.

I personally sell Behringer products and I find the amplifier is really value for the money seriously. I mean if YOU ARE willing to pay at least 4 or 5 grands for an amplifier around 80Watts it's another case but I think Behringer which you can get more or less 2k (or lesser) is a wiser option.

Regarding the wah pedals I'd give it a thumbs-down, thats why I don't sell them

lol i thought this was a survey, but its kinda hard to read 4 pages worth of stuff. maybe the TS can do a poll instead.
would be much easier.

hmmm my church has used a behringer eurodesk mixer for about 8years now. the model is MX-3282A and well i guess when u talk about the features that u can get for the money that u spend, then its good.

but the problem with behringer is more about the quality. after about 3-4 years of using, problems started creeping up with the mixer. buzzing sounds, channel problems, routing problems and etc.
lately, even when all the channels are muted, sometimes when i turn the knobs on the pan control there is some cracking sounds that comes out of the main mix.
i guess the china manufacturers really skimped on the mixers this time.

i guess if u really cant afford the mid range equipment, then behringer would be your choice for entry level stuff.
if u have the money, then u should seriously skip behringer and go for more reliable products out there.
the money u spend will definately be worth it.

i mean if u wanna buy stuff for your church u would want it to be first and foremost reliable because u dont have the equipment to have downtime. servicing will be a big nuisance to the running of the church right?

Old thread already.... no use of it AT ALL

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