does any body know what's the cgpa range for first class, second upper, second lower for university degree in malaysia? are they the same or different among unis (ipta/ipts)? i just started my final year and my cgpa now drop from 3.3 to 3.1...owh shit...need to know so i can plan my trimester when can rileks-rileks and when can try skor... n__n;

This post has been edited by aaeem: Jun 15 2006, 08:02 PM

>3.75 - first class .. some are >3.5(depending which uni)
3.0 - second upper

I know about this only, coz I am one of the grades ... Below that I am not sure ...

My bachelor's degree uni doesn't practice this kind of CGPA classification.
But generally, 1st Class Upper is above 3.75. 2nd Class upper is 3.5 to 3.75.

Since this is your final year, I'm not sure how much you can bump up your CGPA since it's the average of all 4/5 years' GPAs. Just concentrate on studying and understanding so that you can apply for work later and not just for scoring -there's a max to how much you can score but no max to how much you can understand. Do your final year project well and so that you can be proud to present it later to interviewers.

Depends on U
1st class: 3.67/3.5
2nd up: 3.00
2nd lower 2.67
3rd 2.00

for my uni
3.67 is first class
3.33 - 3.66 is second class upper
3.32 - (2.5 im not sure ) is second class lower
2.5 below is third class << around here

that's weird. i was under the impression the 1st class points are quite standardized.

here's for UTM

1st class: 3.70
2nd class upper: 3.00
2nd class lower: 2.00
3rd class: below 1.99 (u'll get a general degree rather than the course u studied in. ie: ur friends graduate with BSc in Computer Science, u'll graduate with Bachelor of Science)


worth to note, if a degree does not dictate the 1st class award, the standard accepted pointer for 1st class by JPA is 3.75.

u noe.....in ur final sem....its quite impossible to bump ur CGPA up by dat much....

but like cj tune sez, start understanding wat ur studying so u'll get a better chance of gettin' work later......

this is the range for MMU

3.67 - 4.00 First
3.33 - 3.66 Second Upper
2.67 - 3.32 Second Lower
2.00 - 2.66 Third

for my college
1st class = >70%
2nd upper = 60-69%
2nd lower = 50-59%
3rd class = 40-49%

if failed, no class and no degree, only higher national diploma (HND)

Just want ask, how many percentage of people get 1st class in MMU??

I heard rumours said it is pretty easy to get 1st class in MMU, just need to clarify!! No offence.

UTAR:

1st - 3.5 - 4.0
2nd upper - 3.0 - 3.499
2nd lower - 2.2 - 2.9999
third - 2.0 - 2.1999

btw, if ur thinking that a lot of ppl are probably in the first class in this uni ur right. and if you're thinking that those ptptn students will get their loans converted for this first class, ur wrong. ptptn considers first class is with cgpa of 3.75 (if i am not mistaken) regardless of university.

another point: we should also state grade distribution from each university/college. some universities have low grade distribution, hence easier for students to score A.

for UTM:

85% A......4.0
80% A-.....3.7
75% B+....3.3
70% B......3.0
65% B-.....2.7
60% C+....2.3
55% C......2.0
50% C-.....1.7
-------------- failure mark
45% D+....1.3
40% D......1.0
0% E........ 0

This post has been edited by azarimy: Jun 17 2006, 07:13 PM

UTP
85% A
80% A-
75% B+
70% B
65% B-
60% C+
55% C
50% C-
45% D+
40% D
<40% E

same as UTM.

First class = 3.75 n above
Dean list = 3.5 to 3.69
2nd upper = 3.00 to 3.69
2nd lower = 2.50 to 2.99

other than that, no idea.

what's the difference between bsc and bachelor?

same.

to put it simply, all undergrad degrees in this world comprise of general degree WITH a major. u will see this quite commonly written as BSc in Computing. it means Bachelor of Science (general) in Computing (major). if u often watch american films or tv shows, they commonly refer to this like "i'm majoring in accounting", or "he took a major in law". it simply means these people are taking degrees in those fields just like we do.

there are a few groups of general degrees in this world, most common is bachelor of science and bachelor of arts. in some cases, there's not much difference between the two groups. for example, bachelor of science in architecture is no different from bachelor of arts in architecture.

what i mentioned over 8 years ago was the fact that if you failed to graduate with above 2.00 cgpa, u will be awarded with a general degree with no major.

if i take E&E major in telecommunications and grauate with cgpa2.0 or less , then my degree is regraded as Bachelor of Electrical&Electronics engineering or BSc (Bachelor of Science) ?

assuming the university complies with the bologna convention, then it will be Bachelor of Science.

what can u do with a general degree?

well, u can look for positions that requires any degree. but certainly u cant use it to apply for E&E jobs or positions.

what is bologna convention?

an international standard for education. it basically recognizes a diploma/degree/masters/phd in one country is equivalent to another. for example, before this, some of malaysian degrees are not equivalent to international standard because it takes directly from SPM. nowadays all intakes have been standardized to STPM, matrics, A-levels etc.

but do note that not all countries subscribe to bologna convention.

not bachelor in E&E?

we're talking about general degree, right?

what general degree? I mean degree in E&E here . haha

Haih. Pls follow the thread carefully. If ur cgpa is below certain points, u will still graduate, but with a general degree instead, not what u signed up before.