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 Shall we have a diet/workout post?, To Help Each Other.

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van_takawa
post Jul 26 2011, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(piggy(^(00)^) @ Jul 26 2011, 02:26 PM)
guys, i'd like to ask something. i have quite a rush routine usually. i finish work at 530pm, and i'll be rushing to gym for lesmill classes (combat or pump, or both) which starts at 610pm.

should i eat something before i go to class? maybe a bun or something? sometimes i feel weak during the class, but not all the time. if i eat at lunch, and starve until evening, go to gym classes with empty stomach, is that good?

they say that each class can burn appx 600 cal, so after combat and pump, i'll hav bunrt over 1k of cal, and that's better than treadmill. LOL at least i have fun in it. but if i go empty stomach, will i burn less?


Added on July 26, 2011, 2:31 pmbtw, if i wanna ask about improving my daily diet, should i create a new thread?
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The calorie burn is normally more like an assumption instead of real calculation, different people, varies height and weight,age,gender and also the vigorous of activity affect the amount of energy you burn.

Regarding eating before workout or not. I will say that follow your feeling. Exercise is indeed lifestyle, same goes to eating.

If someone say that eating before exercise is good, even you have no time, no appetite, no mood eating, you force yourself take in those food?

If someone say that eating before exercise is bad, even you are hungry, no energy at all, and you rather don't eat?

My personal opinion will be, whenever exercise, do not eat too heavy. If you have lunch within 2-3 hours before you workout, iand you still feel full, then just don't eat. But if you are of those having light lunch and by 6pm already feel hungry, dun starve yourself. Have something light. Instead of bun, have something like banana or milo (if you don't mind it's sugar). I myself prefer having some carbohydrate and sweet things (not junk/sweets etc) before workout.More energetic.

You can just post here for ur diet, there will be members come in and out. They are definitely standby helping.

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post Jul 27 2011, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(piggy(^(00)^) @ Jul 27 2011, 10:08 AM)
i took a sausage bun oh, is that ok? there's a bakery very near to my office, so usually i buy a bun to bite then i rush to gym. maybe next time i bring one or two bananas and put em in my car. laugh.gif

yesterday was a blast, but i feel so tired now. not bad for that bun, bring me through pump, jam, but half way through combat, i give up. didn't want to go to jam, but my fren was there and she want me to tag along the dance class. after jam it was so tired, but suddenly felt the electric to go for combat as i love combat class. but even with a can of 100plus, i still felt very tired, and throat very dry, not dehydration, but maybe coz i'm having sore-throat.
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Seriously, depend on what type of sausage and what type of bun and of course your lifestyle. Some can eat whatever they like to eat. But some...

The later one may think sausage isn't good, if you know how sausages are made. And for bun, there are some real sweet bun; there are some made from wholewheat... The wheat one would be good.

And regarding 100plus, it's some sort of sports drinks. When you having some sort of dehydration/vomit/diarrhea, they are good. But still if you have nothing, and take it like "supplement" then that's not helping at all. Water is still the best drink besides protein!

Whenever I have sore throat or fever, I'll do a lot of cardio, sweat like hell, and somehow recovered.No medical or scientific prove, but I just believe in this shit and it works for me.Haha.
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post Jul 29 2011, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(xxcha0sworldxx @ Jul 29 2011, 08:53 AM)
HI guys, any comment on my meal

9am: 5 half boiled egg
10am: 5 mcvities + cadbury chocolate + 1 scoop of sci-mx mass sys
11am: fruitssss
12pm: strawberry flavour protein bar
1pm: spaghetti with lots of chicken or prawn
2pm: 1 scoop of sci-mx mass sys
workout
4.30pm: 2 scoop of sci-mx mass sys
5.30pm: cereal + 250ml milk or 4 slices of bread + nutella
8.00pm: dinner ( rice + chicken + vege..)
10.00pm: yogurt
12.00pm: 1 scoop of sci-mx mass sys

btw, m having 77kg , 182cm, my goal is 85++
any advise?
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You just want to increase weight regardless it's fat or muscle? Or you looking for pure mass gain?

Will need more information on your milk, yogurt and type of bread. Of course how much is your dinner? What type of fruits you having?

Basically you yourself need remember that eating more than you use will gain weight. And of course a 8kg different somehow is a big gap in term of mass gain. Instead of just diet, your workout will need to follow up. Otherwise, you gain lots fats compare to muscle.

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post Aug 2 2011, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(TendouSouji @ Aug 1 2011, 11:59 PM)
What's the most NORMAL diet we can get for just normal workout? (I plan to build a little body shape only, not become macho man, cuz im quite skinny now). I usually just eat 3 meals per day and don't go to gym, only play football. Im a complete noob to this. I don't understand the how many percent carbohydrate,etc stuff since i just eat whatever i like everyday. Please recommend the most basic/easy to obtain diet(preferably can get from nearby grocery store or mart) for me and the routine for my workout. Thank you very much!
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I believe you don't get macho by just asking question.

Yes, SARCASM!

There is no personal trainer service overhere, of course PT can't serve u as well, becos one can do ntg to transform a man not even knowing his age,his height,his weight,his body fat%,his current diet/working routine.

I don't blame anyone for being new into the field, but I blame them for not putting effort at least knowing what LIFE is.

Sorry, can't help. I ain't PRO.
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post Aug 23 2011, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(katatonic @ Aug 23 2011, 09:46 AM)
Hi all! I'm new to the boards, and have been reading the interesting links pinned, there's just lots of info to digest. I've been weight training for the past 2 months with some gains, but have not been focused and with no direction. I'm basically a lardball, and I'm working towards increasing muscle mass while shedding fat. I'm 1.73m at 126kgs. I'd appreciate your help in critiquing my diet/workout regime:

Workout:
Mon - Upper body:
DB chest press 5x5 CHEST
BB Upright row 5x5 SHOULDER
Machine Pec Flies 5x5 CHEST
Machine Shoulder Press 5x5 SHOULDER

Tues: Cardio - Elliptical 35mins

Wednesday - Lower Body:
DB Plie Squats 5x5 LOWER
Machine Leg Press 5x5 LOWER
Machine Calf Raise 5x5 CALVES
BB Bicep Curl 5x5 BICEP

Thursday: Cardio - Elliptical 35mins

Friday - Back:
BB Bent-over rows 5x5 BACK
Lat Pulldowns 5x5 BACK
Machine Seated Rows 5x5 BACK
Machine Back extension 5x5 BACK
Tricep pushdown 5x5 TRCIEP

Saturday: Cardio - Elliptical 35mins

** Am I overtraining? Should I vary my workout? I'm hitting my major muscle groups once a week, but since I've switched my workout from morning to working out at night, I figure I got more time to kill (less time pressure) so can work on more than 1 muscle group?

Diet:

Total calorie intake: 2,600 cals (calorie deficit of about 1,100 cals)

Supplements:
1000mg vitamin C x1
Multivitamins x1
Calcium + Magnesium x2
Fish oil x 4000mg (4 x 1000mg)
Glucasamine (for the joints - too old already!)
Thermogenic: Oxyelite Pro taken as directed.

BMR calculations that I did requires me to consume at least 3,700 for maintenance. I'm wondering if the calorie deficit I've set for myself is too high. I don't want to lose muscle mass.[cool.gif
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Hi! 126kg? That is some big number of weight for your height.

Overtrain? I don't think so, but again without poundage, (it's a wild guess always).IMO, training is all depend on your own, heavy and light is relative; overtrain or not is also depend on yourself.

It's good so far since you know what you are doing, and if it's as you said, you are seeing some gains then it's good. For me, I started working 2 major muscle groups a day and worked out alternative day when I just started.

I do noticed that your routine involve a lot of machines, and in fact there is no deadlift and overhead presses.

IMO, beginner should do more of compound movements using BB,DB,KB or even medicine ball to gain strengths and mass.In fact, compound alos burn more fats than isolation movements.

It's good that you aware of calories deficit help in shredding but not everything can be calculated as precise, it's always good if you leave rooms for the calories (especially if you are one of those that been eating recklessly).As for me, I eat whenever I feel like (but never overeat),just work harder when working out to compensate.

p/s: Not sure your 126kg is majorly fat or muscle, but if I were you,I will go for a cutting first.Which means compound+cardio/cardio split for me.

This post has been edited by van_takawa: Aug 23 2011, 04:52 PM
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post Aug 24 2011, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(katatonic @ Aug 24 2011, 09:24 AM)
...there's this cylinder thing with handles that I hear people are using do develop core strength, and I'm wondering if that's any good?
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LOL.I've got no idea what you are talking about. But for core strength, there are lots of way to develop them.Well,I think you already got your plan and seem know what to do.Wish you luck and all the best. smile.gif
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post Nov 15 2016, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(hikaru85 @ Nov 9 2016, 06:26 PM)
Starting point  73 kg, 170cm
Calories intake 1.6k (2.1k cal before start)
Random dumb bell and cardio.
Body fat not sure, did not measure

After 3 month
Weight 65 kg/19 % bodyfat not sure accurate or not( taken on morning before eat anything)
http://www.active.com/fitness/calculators/bodyfat

Currently doing weight training and h i i t + cardio on altenate day.
Weight training 4 set (20kg dumbell pair , 10kg each side)
Bicep alternate curl x20 each side
Push up x 30
Squat with dumbbell x 20
Dumbbell should press x 10
Plank 1 min
1 min rest time between exercise, 2 min rest between set.

H i i t

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ieyzL5OaPZk

Rest 2 min, and jogging in place (in my room) for 20 min

Protein intake 100g to 130g daily.

Any sifu got comment or advice? My concern is body fat. Morning before eat my belly looks chubby,  but after lunch or dinner it looks bloated. My goal is muscle arm and at least visible pack. 4 pack also enuff.
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I did something like your weight training when I first started as super overweight kid, same dumbbell weight,I even incorporated triceps kickbacks,bent over row, chest press,shoulder fly, burpees, mountain climber , to make it full body workout. It helped me lost few kgs, dropped 2 inches of waist,but still fat.

Conclusion:
1. Sign up a gym, lift seriously,track diet strictly
(Noticeable changes within 6 months,4 packs there if I diet,they get united when I dont)
2. Go for P90X if you insist workout at home with dumbbells,track diet strictly
(Good foundation for me to push through my fitness limitation,I started with minimal fitness,exposure to body split routines,pullups,dumbbell works,stretching,yoga and plyo,unable to commit for strict 90days as it is taxing,losing weight fastest.)
3. Your weight training is more like a HIIT or tabata, which you can find much better templates online, go for it,track diet strictly
4. Learn about macros, it is not just about protein,track diet strictly
5. If your muscular arms refer to something like Lin Dan/Dato LCW, maintaining current routine and track diet strictly,drop your body fat, you will achieve your goals.
6. If you mean real big arms, see 1.
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post Nov 22 2016, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Nov 20 2016, 11:32 PM)
Not sure if this is the correct place to ask but can anyone estate the calories and macros in this plate of chicken rice?
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1 cup of butter rice - 55g carb, 20g fat, 10g protein ~ 375cal
Plate of roast chicken (50g) - 35g protein 15g fat - 240cal
If u eat the cucumber, drink up the soup and sauces, you can add another rough 20cal.

Just an estimation, different people cook it with various combination of chicken stock, msg and etc, so making it hard to measure. Would prefer white rice, chicken without sauces thou for easier calculations.

Or eat KFC chicken rice, they stated out the macronutrients.

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