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 Shall we have a diet/workout post?, To Help Each Other.

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kurtkob78
post Jan 12 2009, 09:14 AM

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wow your diet looks real nice. got some question regarding your meal.

1. What's the diff between gardenia oat bread & wholegrain bread ? Where do you buy the oatbread ?

2. All your chicken grilled and smoked, you make it yourself ? Can teach how to smoke and grilled a chicken ? lol
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post Jan 12 2009, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jan 12 2009, 09:14 AM)
wow your diet looks real nice. got some question regarding your meal.

1. What's the diff between gardenia oat bread & wholegrain bread ? Where do you buy the oatbread ?

2. All your chicken grilled and smoked, you make it yourself ? Can teach how to smoke and grilled a chicken ? lol
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Frankly, im not sure about the difference. I need to get breads that provide lower carb since what im buying now already gave me 20.8g (2 slice). Yet im taking 3 slices a day. hmm.gif

2) Haha....I used to buy the smoked chicken slices in Jaya Jusco (Wangsa Maju). There is a stall where they sell sausage, ham, smoked chicken slices and etc. As for chicken grilling, the way i grill really sucks. I'll just marinate it with a little salt and 1 table spoon of olive oil, then start grilling it the grill pan. The food sucks but i just want the protein and not the taste.Lol.

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post Jan 12 2009, 12:05 PM

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take nuts instead of bread if u r worried about carbs wink.gif
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post Jan 12 2009, 01:30 PM

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There's no problem eating carb as long dont over eat at 1 time. About the olive oil ? is it ok to cook with olive oil ? I read somewhere in this forum saying overheat of olive oil become poison to us.
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post Jan 12 2009, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jan 12 2009, 01:30 PM)
There's no problem eating carb as long dont over eat at 1 time. About the olive oil ? is it ok to cook with olive oil ? I read somewhere in this forum saying overheat of olive oil become poison to us.
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Didn't know about that. Would it be better if i grill the chicken breast and once its ready, i pour 1 table spoon of olive oil? blush.gif In this case, i wont overheat it.
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post Jan 12 2009, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Jan 12 2009, 01:30 PM)
There's no problem eating carb as long dont over eat at 1 time. About the olive oil ? is it ok to cook with olive oil ? I read somewhere in this forum saying overheat of olive oil become poison to us.
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Not poison doh.gif doh.gif

But have a read about this fact, it sounds awesome.

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Olive oil is a great oil for cooking.  Strong flavored olive oils can be used for frying fish or other strong flavored ingredients.  A mellow late harvest Mission variety oil could be used in baking a cake.  Olive oil has a high smoke point, 410 degrees F,  and doesn't degrade as quickly as many other oils do with repeated high heating.  Use a variety of healthy vegetable oils when preparing food and incorporate a good extra virgin olive oil when you want its health benefits and wonderful Mediterranean flavor.

There are some myths which have recently circulated about olive oil which we are constantly answering via email and our newsletter. Olive oil has been used for thousands of years and is one of the cornerstones of the healthy Mediterranean diet.

Click here for a more scholarly discussion of storage and rancidity

Olive Oil Myth:  Olive oil loses its benefits when heated

The Facts: Excessively heating olive oil will evaporate the alcohols and esters which make up its delicate taste and fragrance. Heating olive oil will not change its health aspects, only the flavor. Use a cheaper olive oil which doesn't have much flavor to begin with if you want to fry with it, add a more flavorful olive oil after cooking or at the table.

Olive Oil Myth: Heating a cooking oil will make it saturated or a trans-fatty oil.

The Facts: As far as making a saturated fat, according to Dr. A. Kiritsakis, a world renowned oil chemist in Athens, (Book - OLIVE OIL FROM THE TREE TO THE TABLE -Second edition 1998), all oils will oxidize and hydrogenate to a tiny degree if repeatedly heated to very high temperatures such as is done in commercial frying operations. Olive pomace oil and virgin olive oil are both highly monounsaturated oils and therefore resistant to oxidation and hydrogenation. Studies have shown oxidation and hydrogenation occurs to a lesser degree in olive oil than in other oils.  But in any case, the amount of hydrogenation is miniscule and no home cook would ever experience this problem.

The large refinery-like factories which take unsaturated vegetable oil and turn it into margarine or vegetable lard do so by bubbling hydrogen gas through 250 to 400 degree hot vegetable oil in the presence of a metal catalyst, usually nickel or platinum.  The process can take several hours. You cannot make a saturated product like margarine at home by heating olive oil or any other vegetable oil in a pan. We don't know where this weird notion has come from.  For more see our olive oil chemistry page
Reference : http://www.oliveoilsource.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm


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post Jan 14 2009, 10:29 AM

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Just adding my 1cent worth, read that extra virgin olive oil is healthiest but if u wanna grill/fry then better use refined olive cos there are less particles suspended in the oil so it won't smoke easily.

Oso read that grapeseed oil has 1 of the highest smoking temperatures & very healthy too.

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Hello everyone! I'd like to know if theres anyone in this thread who are on the Tabata interval routine or have had experience with it. I've read a couple of other threads about it and would like to gauge how ppl find their tabata workouts progressing.

I'm about to start tabata t'row, hopefully I can finish my workout without puking or passing out (or both) smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2009, 06:38 AM

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My first diet post:

Breakfast - can of red alaskan salmon, 1 Tbsp lite mayo, 3 slices of bread, green tea.

Lunch (1.00pm) - Brown rice (75g), 200g chicken breast, 2 whole fried eggs.

Pre-workout (1.30pm) - Whey (29g), Milk Semi-Skimmed 2%Fat (350mL)

Post-workout (3.45pm) - Whey (29g), Dextrose (30g), Creatine (5g), Milk Semi-Skimmed 2%Fat (350mL)

Tea - can of red alaskan salmon, 1 Tbsp lite mayo, 3 slices of bread

Dinner - 200g chicken breast, 2 whole fried eggs, salad with olive oil and vinegar dressing.

Pre-bed shake - Whey (29g), Milk Semi-Skimmed 2%Fat (350mL)

Total kCal for today: 3,273 kCal

Macros Protein/Fat/Carbs : 319g / 123.8g / 201.7g
Ratio of Protein/Fat/Carbs : 2.58 : 1 : 1.63

Comments appreciated. I didn't do a pre-workout oats shake because there was rice in my meal and I was full as can be.Attached File  diet.rtf ( 11.22k ) Number of downloads: 13
Attached File  diet_no_tea.rtf ( 11.06k ) Number of downloads: 14


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post Jan 15 2009, 09:35 AM

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do you measure your brown rice before cook or after cook ? so 100g of cooked brown rice is how many calories ? Btw, you sure eat a lot. lol

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post Jan 15 2009, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jan 15 2009, 06:38 AM)

Total kCal for today: 3,273 kCal

Macros Protein/Fat/Carbs : 319g / 123.8g / 201.7g
Ratio of Protein/Fat/Carbs : 2.58 : 1 : 1.63

Comments appreciated. I didn't do a pre-workout oats shake because there was rice in my meal and I was full as can be.
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Hey, may i knw wats ur weight ?
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post Jan 15 2009, 06:48 PM

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posted the same thing in darkie's thread asking for advice on my food.

Anyway, my weight is 77 - 78 usually. I've never hit 80kg (not yet). Height is about 183cm.

I measure my rice before I cook.
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post Jan 16 2009, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jan 15 2009, 06:48 PM)
posted the same thing in darkie's thread asking for advice on my food.

Anyway, my weight is 77 - 78 usually. I've never hit 80kg (not yet). Height is about 183cm.

I measure my rice before I cook.
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dude we r about the same height hehe. i consume about the same amt of cals tat u have there but i m 91kg :s lol. I still finding ways to add in my cals, eatting in the office is just too troublesome.
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post Jan 16 2009, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(mofonyx @ Jan 15 2009, 06:48 PM)
posted the same thing in darkie's thread asking for advice on my food.

Anyway, my weight is 77 - 78 usually. I've never hit 80kg (not yet). Height is about 183cm.

I measure my rice before I cook.
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U sound quite solid at that weight. Stil want to gain more mass ? I'm having abt 42cal / kg bodyweight (same as u) last time & ballooned up real fast but i guess your diet is cleaner ie. less carbs. U'll grow bigger orite icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 17 2009, 02:33 AM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Jan 16 2009, 03:57 PM)
dude we r about the same height hehe. i consume about the same amt of cals tat u have there but i m 91kg :s lol. I still finding ways to add in my cals, eatting in the office is just too troublesome.
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hrmm, different metabolic rate?

mrPOTATO : Yeap, still looking to get jacked. tongue.gif

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post Jan 17 2009, 10:53 AM

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my friend gave me a cell-tech hardcore creatine (muscle-tech). When should i consume it?Should i replace my post shake (7.30 p.m) to creatine or ? icon_question.gif

7.00 a.m. : 4 eggs (scramble) + Quaker Oatmeal (20g) + ½ Serving Fruits
10.00 a.m. : Mince Tuna Fish (Fresh) + Nuts + 1 Capsule Fish oil
1.00 p.m. : Grill Chicken Breast (1 ½ Slice) + 1 Table Spoon (Extra Virgin Olive Oil) + Small Serving (Brown Rice) + 1 egg.
4.00 p.m : Whey Protein (1 Scoop) + Plain Water
7.30 p.m : Whey Protein (1 Scoop) + Milk (250ml) )+ 1 Banana
8.30 p.m : Grill Chicken, Fish, Beef, + 1 Table Spoon (Extra Virgin Olive Oil) + / Other Green Vege.

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post Jan 17 2009, 12:21 PM

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dude, mix ur creatine with ur postworkout shake and make sure ur pwo shake consist of carbs too tats benefit the body by absorbing the creatine into ur body. and i bet 7.30 is ur preworkout?? and the 4.00 can add in some more calories liek peanut butter or some other food.
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post Jan 22 2009, 07:16 AM

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Removed all oils from my meals. All chicken cooked steamed, all eggs boiled.

Breakfast

180g canned red alaskan salmon w/ 1 Tbsp light mayo
3 slices of wholemeal brown seeded bread
20g serving of peanut butter
200mL milk 1% skimmed
2 fish oil tablets EPA/DHA 180/120 (mg)
Green tea

Lunch

250g chicken breast (steamed w/ onion, garlic, ginger, thyme, light soy sauce)
90g brown rice (dry weight)
3 whole eggs (boiled)
salad with vinegar
200mL milk 1% skimmed
2 fish oil tablets EPA/DHA 180/120 (mg)


Tea

Half can red alaskan salmon, 1 Tbsp light mayo
2 slices wholemeal brown seeded bread
20g serving peanut butter
Half cup of green tea


Pre Workout

350mL milk 1% skimmed
25g oats
29g whey


Post Workout

30g dextrose
5g creatine
29g whey


Dinner

250g chicken breast (steamed w/ onion, garlic, ginger, thyme, light soy sauce)
2 whole eggs (boiled)
80g brown rice (dry weight)


Pre bed shake

350mL milk 1% skimmed
29g whey

Macros protein/fat/carbo : 365.06 g / 144.26 g / 308.82 g

Ratio protein/fat/carbo : 2.53 / 1 / 2.14

Total kCal for today : 4262.6 kCal

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Comments: I think I ate a bit too much. Could do without the 'tea'

Anyway, feel free to comment.

This post has been edited by mofonyx: Jan 22 2009, 08:23 AM
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post Jan 22 2009, 09:01 AM

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Wow, you sure eat a lot. You a bodybuilder ? My loading day is about 2400-2600 kCal only. I'm cutting.
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post Jan 22 2009, 09:28 AM

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Haha damn hungry wei. But today eat a bit toooo much I would say. Without tea would be jussst nice.

Bodybuilder? I like to think so. I'm just a regular gym goer who likes the iron. You know.

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