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Michaelbyz23
post Feb 27 2014, 01:34 PM

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im new to this, gonna create an account and start investing after i save enough smile.gif
Michaelbyz23
post Feb 27 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 27 2014, 01:42 PM)
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GETTING STARTED : KNOWING YOURSELF
We will attempt to read your mind.

Hmmm, OK, yes, yes.. The picture is becoming clearer.

OK, this is what you are thinking.

"I need more money in my life".

Good, aren't we?

Well, the trick is simple. We all need more money in our life. Money to pay our housing loans, car loans, income taxes, and bills, bills, bills. We need money to buy the things we want and pamper ourselves once in while. We need money to start a family, and provide for our children. At the end of the day, when we retire and we stop drawing an income, we still need to have enough money to live day to day.

Yes, it's tough.

Read more from here and its link at the end of each articles,...understand it 1st before creating an a/c .......just my 2 cents.. icon_rolleyes.gif

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/schoo...d.svdo?PageID=1
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The fundsupermart guy called and verified my account smile.gif all set up! I already downloaded the whole online lesson from the website, gonna read them carefully before i start buying funds. first time. hehe. any tips for beginners? i didnt choose to go through agents like CWA etc cuz they will charge more . hope i wont be losing too much biggrin.gif
Michaelbyz23
post Feb 27 2014, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 27 2014, 04:48 PM)
hmm.gif just hope that you won't take too long to read or decide......else would missed out this
NEW ACCOUNT BENEFITS
These benefits are applicable to UNLIMITED purchases of ANY unit trust, up to a period of 30 calendar days upon account activation. However, these benefits do not apply for funds listed under Hwang Investment Management Berhad.
read to find out.....
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/faq.svdo?id=5904

that is why i mentioned earlier,....read & understand articles 1st before creating the a/c  icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks bro for showing me that. tmr going to withdraw 3k from FD and play around! smile.gif
first time, which one to buy based on ur opinion? hehe. just asking, please don be mad! biggrin.gif icon_rolleyes.gif notworthy.gif
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post Feb 27 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 27 2014, 04:56 PM)
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1K Kenanga Growth Fund
1K Eastspring Investment Small Caps
1K RHB OSK Global Equities Yield

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thanks and cheers mate icon_rolleyes.gif notworthy.gif
Michaelbyz23
post Feb 27 2014, 06:10 PM

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purchased my first ever unit trust. smile.gif also my first ever investment in my life. haha. not too late i guess.. age 23 tongue.gif

will come here more often for sifu advice.

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btw, isit compulsory to add in rm100 minimum every month? lets say some months i dont wanna add in the fund? or it deducts automatically?

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post Feb 28 2014, 09:19 AM

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hmm can someone mind explaining how does the 10% per annum ROI works by compounded? if i buy unit trust for rm1000 on january, and buy 100 per month till december, how much ROI i will get at the end of that year?

also im looking to buy savings insurance. or do u guys recommend me to buy it from rhb retirement series growth fund? arent they the same thing?

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post Feb 28 2014, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 28 2014, 09:47 AM)
Bro u need to understand what is unit trust...

There is no guaranteed ROI!

U invest, i.e. give RM1,000 to unit trust fund manager
He use the money to invest in shares, bonds, money market instruments...
THERE IS NO GUARANTEED PROFITABILITY IN INVESTING!

If u meant ROI calculation of u invest RM1,000 now and RM100 every month for the next 11 months...this is how I do it, spreading the capital outlay over the period:

Gain/(Loss) / (Capital at beginning of period + (capital invested during the year)/2)

E.g.
U total invested RM2,100 (RM1,000 now, RM100 for next 11 months)
After 12 months your fund value is RM2,420
Profit: RM320

ROI
= RM320 / (RM1,000 + (RM1,100/2))
= 20.64%
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Ok got it, meaning to say if i put in rm100 per month, the interest will start compounding that month? the rm320 figure coming from where, isit just your example? cuz the part where im confused is the value of my rm100 everymonth for that month itself, and for the entire year.
like if i pay rm1000 initially, and then pay the next rm1100 a month before the fiscal year, does the profit still the same?

QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 28 2014, 09:52 AM)

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urm sorry for being really noob.. i meant savings plan. i am looking to go for the 20 years payment policy plan, then at the end of 20th year, i can withdraw the lump sum.
just want to diversify my investment, besides unit trust and savings, i will also buy PRS from RHB growth. what do you think?
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post Feb 28 2014, 03:24 PM

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just bought another fund, kenanga growth fund biggrin.gif
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post Feb 28 2014, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 28 2014, 03:32 PM)
Beware, don't be over-optimistic; else (temporary) disappointments may send u crashing (prematurely) for the "SELL" button if things go wrong. This happened to me before, learnt the lesson, and now wiser (a bit) wink.gif
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Meaning to say do sell it when the price drops dramatically? Both funds i bought are recommended by fundsupermart and it has the best performance over 3 , 5 years. hehe should be quite safe, but im ready to lose all the money if things go bad.

QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 28 2014, 03:36 PM)
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also do invest based on one risk profile and one financial capability...just dun over do it..even one has set aside the emergency fund.. rolleyes.gif
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Hehe yes sifu! notworthy.gif


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post Feb 28 2014, 03:44 PM

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i was thinking and planning to sell 50% of my unit in 2 years to buy my first house along with epf.

then after buying house i buy back when i have money. then i still have my other 50% going on. hmm what do u think sifu?
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post Feb 28 2014, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 28 2014, 03:46 PM)
2 years is too short for unit trust investing. A significant crash will send your financial goals to Holland.
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haha okay, no prob. i'll invest for long term, maybe 5 years or so. im quite flexible as i just started, so i better learn as much before i go with the plannings!
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post Feb 28 2014, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 28 2014, 03:52 PM)
rclxms.gif spot on.....
mine is 9 mths old....and are still at -0.2 as of today
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haha which fund did you purchase on and still at -0.2?
sorry im still newbie, are you gonna sell it if it shoots to positive, say +2 or +3?
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post Feb 28 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 28 2014, 04:09 PM)
geee...i had these 14 in total

nay...not selling most of them...maybe one or two would switch to other regions/asset class....when it has a chance to go +tive....
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haha okay, meaning to say ure not planning to sell anything in the near future.
hmm what do u do with the profit u earn (if there is any from interest)? do u add to the principal? or u take and use for personal?

QUOTE(TakoC @ Feb 28 2014, 04:09 PM)
His entire portfolio is +0.2%.

My guess is he won't. UT is a long term investment.
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i see. hmm, but when do u think is the best time to sell? when it shoots up high?
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post Feb 28 2014, 05:14 PM

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btw @yklooi, may i ask, why did you recommend RHB OSK global equities yield a few threads ago? i checked and its not performing good for the past 4 years.
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post Feb 28 2014, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 28 2014, 05:19 PM)
Because it has the region and % of coverage that i liked for that portfolio
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hmm okay. how does it affect the overall performance with the coverage that you attached at thumbnail? i mean why dont we invest on something with good performance over the years? hehe sorry really noob here again. please fogive me .. notworthy.gif

plus i saw your 14 funds but u didnt buy this particular urself? hehe

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post Feb 28 2014, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 28 2014, 05:23 PM)
then "that" mkt may had already peaked...or that is not what the portfolio wants..
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i see, does it mean when it already peaked, i need to switch this fund to something else? and if so, what would the next fund may be good to go for? sweat.gif notworthy.gif
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post Mar 7 2014, 11:51 AM

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hehe hows everyone?
switched rhb global equity to eastspring small caps. i read the terms and condition say charge rm25, but they charge me 2%.

guess the next purchase will have tow ait till 1% discount, around july/august rite? smile.gif
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post Mar 26 2014, 11:51 AM

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Hmm, after reading back a few posts, i realized i have been doing it wrong. market has been going up and i have just topped up yesterday.

so, lesson is top up whtn we see negative?
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post Mar 26 2014, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 26 2014, 12:01 PM)
Investing is more of an art than science.

U will learn more as u move along - EXPERIENCE wink.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 26 2014, 12:42 PM)
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the thing to do is to stay focused on the value of the underlying assets or markets that they invest in. Focus on the long-term fundamentals of their investments and not the short-term market momentum.
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Mar 26 2014, 12:49 PM)
if i thought that in 2010 (after 2008 down, 2009 climbing, and 2010 STILL climbing)
i would have to slap myself silly tongue.gif

Look at value VS history +other factors like your own asset allocation plan & yearly investment plan/resources, not just yesterday/last year prices
eg. just because something went down, doesn't mean it's of good value (yet)
just because something went up, doesn't mean it's not of good value / over paying (already)
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thanks all sifus! I have read all your comments notworthy.gif
not really something i can learn from text books.
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post Mar 28 2014, 12:00 PM

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looking to buy my 3rd unit trust. cuz my new member promotion 1% ends today.. so if i buy by 3pm i stll can get to enjoy 1% rite?

want to ask, which should i buy? currently i have kenanga growth fund and eastspring small cap in hand.
looking at rhb osk small cap opportunity UT vs rhb osk emerging opportunity UT
or should i split 50/50 to fund both my current ut?
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