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Feb 11 2014, 11:37 PM
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Feb 11 2014, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 11 2014, 11:40 PM) Ho ho ho! Chance for me to squeeze Xuzen! ES-GL took management expenses for the Target Fund as part of its profit/loss, when they calculate AER for the Feeder Fund, they only take into account fees charged by Eastspring, fees charged my M&G are EXCLUDED (already inside profit/(loss)). This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 11 2014, 11:43 PM |
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Feb 11 2014, 11:46 PM
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In other words, e.g. M&G charges 1.5% management fee, Eastspring charges 1.8% management fee, and there is no double charging of management fee...
Assuming the Feeder Fund is 100% invested in the Target Fund (for making my illustration simpler), 1.5% charged by M&G is already inside profit/(loss) for the Target Fund, Eastspring charges u 0.3% on top of the 1.5% which Eastspring paid to M&G. Hence, AER is only 0.3%. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 11 2014, 11:48 PM |
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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Feb 11 2014, 11:43 PM) Currently all my funds are in stocks markets. Intend to allocate part of the money in UT instead. 1. See FSM Recommended Portfolios and Recommended Funds.Wow you holding a lot of counter. I'm just holding TNLOGIS, KAREX & MYEG only. Which in 60:10:30 ratio of my total capital. Haha Any recommend pick lists of UT from you? 2. See portfolio of other forum members (some of us post monthly updates of our portfolio) 3. Use FSM "Fund Selector" to screen thru and shortlist funds that fits your requirement |
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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Feb 11 2014, 11:50 PM) Yes. I'm aware of that equity funds are major in stock market. I do read each fund's prospectus and fact sheet for their exposure. To share with u, the purpose of me having an UT portfolio on top of my stocks portfolio is to DIVERSIFY.That's confuse me actually. They told me to review every months but never tell me what's the definition of their review. Check performance, funds ratio & market trend is it? Hence, my UT portfolio is majority foreign-exposed. Review? A few types of review. Compare your funds performance vs (1) their peers (2) their respective benchmarks And u evaluate the performance of your portfolio as a whole vs other investments e.g. EPF, FD or even your own stocks portfolio. E.g. if your UT portfolio did worst than even FD, perhaps its time to forget about UTs and just park all in FD. But beware of over-short-termism, though. UTs are meant for long-term investing, not short-term punting. My portfolio once saw -25% during the peak of 2008-09 financial crisis, mind you. |
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 11 2014, 11:59 PM) Speaking of yester-years... even before I studied finance and all those Markowitz, Asset allocation mumbo jumbo, somehow I instinctively was able to put 50:50 money market:equities without anyone telling me about it, it was almost common-sense for me. My portfolio never lose more than 5%. Maybe I am natural or something or sixth sense. Xuzen To clarify, the -25% loss only relates to my portfolio of funds meant for long-term investing, it excluded my FDs, money market funds and savings account balances. If lump 'em all, maybe about -10% I think...I lost the historical data to recalculate this. |
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Feb 12 2014, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Feb 12 2014, 12:06 AM) I see. So if i wish to maintain a proper ratio through every month topping up then i need to review the ratio allocate accordingly right? E.g.Your portfolio is 50% Fund A, 25% Fund B, 25% Fund C If u intend to top up every month, top up in the same proportion i.e. 50/25/25 Every 6 months u bring the proportion back into original plan, e.g. Fund A outperformed i.e. went up too far, then u sell some of Fund A or top up more into Fund B and Fund C. |
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Feb 12 2014, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 12 2014, 10:36 AM) Yar Lor... I suspect it is something like what you have written but when I read their prospectus those legal terms make pusing-pusing and I got confused. If 98% invested in mother fund, here's the calculationOK, here is what I got, from M&G factsheet, the AER is 1.67%. ES-GL is 98% invested in motherfund. So the ES-GL AER = (0.98*1.67)+0.14% = 1.78%. Now for RHB-OSK GEY, the AER is 1.86% I win. Xuzen 1.5% x 98% paid from EI to M&G (M&G charges 1.5%, right? I meant management fee only, excl Trustee and others) 0.25% x 98% charged by EI to unitholders (mgmt. fee for the Feeder is 1.75%, NO DOUBLE CHARGING) 1.75% x 2% charged by EI to unitholders More or less same lor EI-GL vs OSK-UOB GEY in terms of expenses RHB-OSK GEYS mgmt fee rate is 1.5%, cheaper than the 1.75% charged by EI-GL. As the fund grow bigger, it will enjoy better economies of scale, the AER will reduce, cos some expenses do not go up/down proportionately to the increase/decrease of fund size. This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 12 2014, 10:44 AM |
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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Feb 12 2014, 02:26 PM) Uhhh! I got what you mean now. Replace with RHB-OSK Emerging Opportunity Unit TrustNow I had picked several fund into my portfolio do let me know any comments in case i had overlooked certain key information will caseu me make the wrong decision. Decided to expose more in foreign market while having some local market in equities (Based on expectation on Malaysia equity room to increase). KENANGA GROWTH FUNDÂ - 15% CIMB-Principal Global Titans Fund - 40% RHB-OSK Income Fund 2 - 20% RHB-OSK CASH MANAGEMENT FUND 2Â - 10% Any comments from all sifus? And...u don't have exposure to Asia ex-Japan mid-large cap stocks. Global Titans is only invested in US+Europe+Japan. Do consider one of these: AmAsia Pac Equity Income CIMB-Principal Asia Pac Dynamic Income My portfolio for your reference This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 12 2014, 02:46 PM |
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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Feb 12 2014, 03:30 PM) Thanks for sharing. I prefer EOUT to SCOUT bcos EOUT can have up to 30% exposure to foreign stocksI will check on these 2 funds you had suggested. How you look at EI Small Cap Fund for local market exposure for a long run? Last year performance are abundant. Consider the Major holding of shares, Coastal got a 1.2 Billion contract and will start contribute to FY 2015 and other top holdings fundamental are pretty good. See: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...etMYOSKEOUT.pdf |
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Busy with work so not free to type a long-winded reply.
One thing I can point out now, Hwang Select Income no longer can be purchased thru FSM. |
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Unker Looi really very free
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Just curious...anyone topping up on bond funds lately?
If yes, which fund? Been thinking...it's been a while since I last touched AmDynamic Bond...last 2 transactions are both SELLs and moved the funds to local stocks This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Feb 14 2014, 02:23 PM |
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 14 2014, 02:29 PM) not me,..i had been slowly diverting my balance funds to equities....shifted out 2, still have 2 more.... the next one most probably Kidsave to GEYF....thinking of intra switch to save on the SC... I don't agree on going 100% equities lor, overweight yes, but 100% is really |
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Feb 14 2014, 03:34 PM) If market correction this year or maybe sometime next year, you will ask yourself why not delay your action and waited for that moment. So, holding only? No top up bond funds lately?Bond is still working as a good cushion. The recent fall in world index really take a small bump to my equity portfolio, but my AmDynamic bond is still cushioning well. |
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