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post Jan 25 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 24 2014, 02:53 PM)
I don't expect a PM agent (or ex-agent?) to be asking this tongue.gif

With Feeder Fund AER calculation, some fund houses do it differently, thus u have to read the prospectus and/or fund report carefully...

Eastspring take the Target Fund expenses as part of investment profit/(loss), thus the AER EXCLUDES Target Fund expenses.

Some Fund Houses take total (Target + Feeder) expenses when calculating AER.

I guess also due to the arrangement between the TF and the FF...if they are related like OSK-UOB (now RHB-OSK) to UOB Asset Management Limited, the TF may refund all expenses to the FF.

Put some numbers to work...

E.g. Fund Size RM100M
Feeder Equity Fund charges 1.80% Management Fee. Target Equity Fund charges 1.5% Management Fee. There is no double charging of management fee.
During the period, FEF are 90% invested in TEF, balance 10% in cash.

Fund Management Expenses would be sum of
(a) RM100M x 90% x 1.80% (1.5% is paid to Manager of TEF, 0.3% to Manager of FEF)
(b) RM100M x 10% x 1.80%

I THINK I'm right and hope this clarifies wink.gif
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That is because this ex-PM agent first time dealing with Feeder Fund mah... Pub-Mut where got feeder fund wan? This ex-agent is now carefully stepping out of his jaguh kampung shell and trying to play with the big boys.

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post Jan 25 2014, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 25 2014, 12:14 AM)
how to buy SG UT in near future?
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I see various possible scenarios:

One, those SG UT will use existing online platform like FSM or Phillips.

Second, they will probably open office in Bolehland and sell their UT through the local retail banks.

Third, offer their funds through Investment Link with local insurance company. How does PruLady linked with Blackrock US equities sound to you all?

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post Jan 27 2014, 11:47 PM

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A large chunk of my funds are stilled in fixed income.... Drop, drop, drop some muahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa.......

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post Jan 29 2014, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Jan 29 2014, 10:17 AM)
hi can anyone correct me if am wrong, I am now looking for bond fund  hence if i am looking at EastSpring Global LeaderMY Fund, am i doing it right? EastSpring Global Leader Fund=Bond Fund. rclxub.gif Thanks in advance. Thinking of switching from Hwang Select Bond to EastSpring. I do have AmDynamic well but not much and do you think it will be a duplicate to EastSpring in term of their portfolio investment?  hmm.gif
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E/Spring Global Leader MY Fund = a daughter fund that feed on The mother fund which is M&G Global Leader Fund. The mother fund is a pure equity fund that buys stocks of top MNC around the world.

M&G investment is a London based investment company that is owned by Prudential Ltd (UK). Basically M&G is the asset management arm of Prudential (UK).

Eastspring is the asset management arm of Prudential in Asia.

How do I know all these? Co-incidently I am also interested in E/S GL MY and have been researching the fund recently.

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QUOTE(ccm123 @ Feb 5 2014, 11:03 PM)
Hello people, been learning on how to construct my FSM portfolio lately since I'm new in the UT market. As I know that diversification is KEY, building a well balanced (as per my risk appetite) portoflio is there crucial. However, I have a few questions and hope some of you gurus can help shed some light.

Assuming I only have a minuscule capital of RM3k to begin with (of which 1k is already devoted to Kenanga Growth Fund), I am planning to devote the remaining into into Bond fund (1k - eg: AmDynamic) and  into an equity fund with global exposure (eg: Aberdeen Islam World fund). I am targetting a 60% equity and 40% bond portfolio in the near future. Assuming I follow my strategy above, it would mean 33% in Bond and 66% Equity, which I believe it is a comfortable range. Do you guys think this is a good strategy? Is it too Malaysia focused? Seeing both kenanga and am funds are domestic (i.e  66% domestic), do you guys think it's diversified enough?

Also, in terms of funds allocation, as I just began working, my income stream is still quite minimal atm, but I'm aiming to save at the range of RM1 to RM1.2k per month, so my question would be; should I use that 1k to acquire other funds to achieve a more diversified portfolio or should I just use that money and save regularly into those funds via the RSP program.

Speaking of which, what are your thoughts of the RSP program? Is it worth it to continuously top up abt RM200-300 into each of my respective funds, bearing in mind that there's always the sales charges involved? Or should I wait and accumulate more capital (and more importantly, experience) to see when is the right time to top up? I know that regular top ups are important to achieve Dollar/Ringgit Cost averaging but, with such minuscule amount, is it even worth it? 

Sorry for the long winded post but I have been trying to read and gather as much knowledge as I can before asking any questions so I hope you guys could help cast some knowledge into a newbie like me! Also, if there are any funds that you guys think have more upside potential, please let me know too smile.gif

p/s: I'm starting to regret devoting that 1k into kenanga growth fund but I still have some confidence in the malaysian market, although admittedly I was attracted by its ridiculously good performance over the past 2 years, which I believe seems to be coming to a downtrend now.  Thoughts?

Thanks a lot peeeps and happy investing!
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RM3K is really miniscule. You'll do fine as a start a two asset class portfolio consisting of a Malaysia jaguh kampung fund e.g. Kenanga Growth Fund and a good bond fund such as AmDynamic but the 1% exit fee is a bummer for me. I would prefer Eastspring Bond for the absence of exit fee.

With regards to Topping up small or big amount, you still will be charge the same percentage in fee, so it is no difference. But having small small top up is better to smoothen the volatility curve (you, as an analyst should know what I am talking about).

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post Feb 8 2014, 03:23 PM

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My portfolio as of 8/2/2014:

My fixed income consist of AmIncome Plus & Eastspring Inv Bond;

My local equities are made up of Eastspring Inv Income Equity, Kenanga Growth & Eastspring small cap;

Foreign exposure via AmOasis Global Islamic & Eastspring Global Leader MY;

Non-core investment via AmCommodities.

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post Feb 11 2014, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Feb 8 2014, 04:23 PM)
fixed income so much?! just locked profit?
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Majority of my monies are from KWSP. Hence I am quite limited to M'sia Jaguh kampung fund.

I used to be 100% invested in equity through Public Mutual (PISEF & PIDF). At qtr4-2013, I redeem everything from Pub-Mut and move to FSM. I put everything into bond first (AMIncome Plus) and slowly DCA into equities from there. This is the reason for the huge portion in fixed income in my portfolio. I target a 60:40 ratio in bond:equities as time goes by.

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post Feb 11 2014, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 11 2014, 05:49 PM)
Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought with EPF monies, when u want to do inter-fund house switching, u have to sell and return to EPF and then to do another purchase transaction? I.e. u cannot do direct switching, have to sell first.
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True, that is why I do Intra fund house switch only for EPF funds.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 11 2014, 10:57 PM)
And also Eastspring Investments Global Leaders
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You also into this fund meh? Me too wor... I am also into this fund.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 11 2014, 11:15 PM)
AmInvestment? They're not well known for their equity funds...AmDividend Income? hmm.gif
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Eastspring lar.

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post Feb 11 2014, 11:20 PM

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Oops, typo... for cash, is AmIncome. For Epf is eastspring bond.

Epf portion is higher than my cash portion.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 11 2014, 11:23 PM)
Sadly, this strategy cannot work for HwangIM and RHB-OSK, HwangIM got no EPF-approved bond fund, whereas RHB-OSK's EPF-approved bond funds doesn't allow intra switching. sad.gif

Eastspring equity funds are all 100% jaguh kampung doh.gif

HwangIM and RHB-OSK got foreign-exposed EPF-approved funds.
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Infact all the local unit trust operator are jaguh kampung mainly. Look at their foreign funds... semua koyak wan.

Wait lar... nanti when the SG funds come into Bolehland (I expect by 2H-2014) due to the free trade agreement, you see how our local jaguh kampung suffers.

Soon, Pink soon, when FSM MY can sell Templeton, Blackrock, JP Morgon, Fullerton, Russell, Schroder... no need feeder fund liao...woo hoo!

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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Feb 11 2014, 11:34 PM)
Wow! Cannot wait worrrrrr....faster more better.
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Heart must be steady...

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 11 2014, 11:33 PM)
Hwang Select Opportunity did commendably...it's up to 30% exposed to foreign equities, thus EPF-approved.

RHB-OSK Emerging Opportunity Unit Trust also similar, but it's a small-mid cap fund.

Hey u forgot RHB-OSK Global Equity Yield, it's a locally-managed global fund, it managed to track benchmark quite closely! tongue.gif
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RHB GEY & ES-GL MY same same performance lar, but ES-GL AER is way lower than RHB GEY leh.

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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Feb 11 2014, 11:39 PM)
Yes i'm actively invest for all my disposable income. Thank you for your advice because currently i only trade in stock market. Intend to allocate some funds into UT to diverse my portfolio so it wouldn't 100% in shares.

However from my understanding from UT have to balance and switching quite often. How true it it and what should i operate that?
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Lawrence, just to be clear, you do realise that the asset invested in UT can be sometimes up to 95% in stock market wan hor. You know that right?

Where got switch often, twice a year nia.

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post Feb 11 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(LawrenceTan @ Feb 11 2014, 11:50 PM)
Yes. I'm aware of that equity funds are major in stock market. I do read each fund's prospectus and fact sheet for their exposure.

That's confuse me actually. They told me to review every months but never tell me what's the definition of their review. Check performance, funds ratio & market trend is it?
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If you follow asset allocation theory, you wll have a target bond:equity ratio. When you reach that target, you will review periodically to maintain that target ratio.

Most use 40:60 and twice a year is very sufficient already.

For younger investor they may use 30:70 or older invester 60:40 in favour of bonds.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 11 2014, 11:54 PM)
To share with u, the purpose of me having an UT portfolio on top of my stocks portfolio is to DIVERSIFY.

Hence, my UT portfolio is majority foreign-exposed.

Review? A few types of review.

Compare your funds performance vs
(1) their peers
(2) their respective benchmarks

And u evaluate the performance of your portfolio as a whole vs other investments e.g. EPF, FD or even your own stocks portfolio. E.g. if your UT portfolio did worst than even FD, perhaps its time to forget about UTs and just park all in FD. But beware of over-short-termism, though. UTs are meant for long-term investing, not short-term punting. My portfolio once saw -25% during the peak of 2008-09 financial crisis, mind you. wink.gif
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Speaking of yester-years... even before I studied finance and all those Markowitz, Asset allocation mumbo jumbo, somehow I instinctively was able to put 50:50 money market:equities without anyone telling me about it, it was almost common-sense for me. My portfolio never lose more than 5%.

Maybe I am natural or something or sixth sense.

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post Feb 12 2014, 12:00 AM

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post Feb 12 2014, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 12 2014, 09:27 AM)
E.g.

Your portfolio is 50% Fund A, 25% Fund B, 25% Fund C
If u intend to top up every month, top up in the same proportion i.e. 50/25/25

Every 6 months u bring the proportion back into original plan, e.g. Fund A outperformed i.e. went up too far, then u sell some of Fund A or top up more into Fund B and Fund C.
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 12 2014, 10:19 AM)
Woi, dah faham my AER calculation and explanation for EI-GL? Where got 0.2% AER so cheap tongue.gif
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Yar Lor... I suspect it is something like what you have written but when I read their prospectus those legal terms make pusing-pusing and I got confused.

OK, here is what I got, from M&G factsheet, the AER is 1.67%. ES-GL is 98% invested in motherfund. So the ES-GL AER = (0.98*1.67)+0.14% = 1.78%.

Now for RHB-OSK GEY, the AER is 1.86%

I win.

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