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 Fundsupermart.com v5, Manage your own unit trust portfolio

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post Nov 4 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(creativ @ Nov 4 2013, 10:38 AM)
Yes, that's my personal opinion. I would go for Public Mutual if I want to invest in bond funds, at this moment.

My point is, Sales Charge is not the killer, Yearly Recurring Fees is the killer.

So what if FSM is not charging Sales? 0% Sales charge is just a bait.
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Depends really, if
(i) your holding period is not that long
(ii) you sell a bond fund to raise cash i.e. not doing intra switching, later buy back into bond fund be it the same fund or different fund

Then platform fee would be better than sales charge.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 4 2013, 10:43 AM)
hmm.gif then which is "BETTER" for an investor that would just want to hold for period of less than 10 years for a particular fund?
reason for < 10 yrs may includes; maybe needed to cash out, switch to other asset class, moves to other more "performing" bond fund which is not from the same fund house, etc
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Added for clarity wink.gif
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post Nov 4 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(creativ @ Nov 4 2013, 11:40 AM)
Yes, you do make sense for really short term holding. We must do the math to find the optimum holding period to give the bang for the buck.
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To add, not too many funds that can consistently outperform for that many years, cos fund managers come and go.

U may hold ABC Income Fund for x no. of years, then u switch to XYZ Bond Fund that is managed by a different fund house. In that case, u will incur fresh new sales charges (if u invest thru other platforms).
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post Nov 4 2013, 01:32 PM

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creativ sounds like a PM agent hmm.gif

Anyway, I don't look at the annual management fee if the past historical performance shows solid returns
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post Nov 7 2013, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 7 2013, 08:57 AM)
hmm.gif do you mean the case where the agent seeking clients at EPF premises? is that the case?
the main concern to me is that there is a possibility of "directive" from above to invest more in M'sia and buy more "GLC" connected counters than diversify out of Malaysia or any where (mandated) when the fund managers deemed fit.
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No. I think he meant the case when PM ppl market their funds like this >>> "PM funds returns BETTER than EPF" tongue.gif
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 7 2013, 08:43 PM)
Pink, PGSF flying.. Haha! Time to switch out HSAO, or should hold and top up the rest?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Nov 7 2013, 09:07 PM)
PGSF fly.. maybe i should switch out AGEF biggrin.gif or RSP buy PGSF hehe.. Looks like US is flying, while Asia is weakening..
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Last time when PGSF in the basement u guys hated it? tongue.gif

Beware of switching just when the wind is about to change... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 7 2013, 09:38 PM)
Well, medium term wise, developed countries are more favourable. That's why PGSF is changing strategy.
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Like I've said before, Mr Market could remain irrational for longer than your ammo can last... sweat.gif

Asia ex-Japan may offer great value, but Mr Market is still not buying into it. doh.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 7 2013, 09:49 PM)
It's very hard to outplay the market! Just build a balanced portfolio that rides through any storm. tongue.gif
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So, how u "balance" your equity exposure?

For now I'm sticking to Developed 25% Asia + Emerging 75%
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 7 2013, 10:06 PM)
ECB lower rates. Another day for global funds to flyyyy.

U said wind changing. You meant from Asia to US/Europe right.
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No, but from US/Europe to Asia.

Recent months Asia has been ding dong-ing, while US and Europe strong. It's about time? brows.gif

Oops, FSM has been saying that for some time, until they also gave up on Alliance Global Equities and PGSF and bought into RHB-GS US fund laugh.gif

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post Nov 7 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 7 2013, 10:16 PM)
Oh, thought u talking about the strong performance from Asia region moved to US and Europe. I agree- US has been showing really strong performance.

I don't think you will be topping up HSAQ anymore right? Have you found a substitute to HSAO, or you will be topping up HSAO and HSAQ still.
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Actually I just dumped RM100 into Ponzi Quantum today blush.gif

HSAO is now 8% of my equity funds, I've already stopped topping up on it, while topping up on other funds from now and then. When it dropped to my targeted 6% of my equity funds, I'd reevaluate its position in my portfolio again.

I think if I were to dump HSAO, I'd look at AmAsia Pacific Equity Income.

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 7 2013, 10:48 PM)
That would make your Asia portfolio more volatile right. Higher exposure in small-to-mid capital.
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Leave the large caps to Eastspring Investments GEMF, Pacific GSF and OSK-UOB GEYF wink.gif
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 7 2013, 11:28 PM)
Hwang Asia Quantum (based on latest available fact sheet) is overweight Singapore and Malaysia, follow by HK 11%. Would it still be wise to top up since it has such high exposure in Singapore and Malaysia. Better to invest in Select Asia Opportunity which has high exposure in Singapore and HK (both >20%) and lower on Malaysia?
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Aiks, how come I missed that doh.gif

Malaysian small-mid caps have outperformed lately, all the big performers in my stock portfolio are the relatively unknown small-mid caps blink.gif

Nvm lar, I can always adjust the balance between HSAO and HSAQ, free switching mar tongue.gif
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 8 2013, 12:45 PM)
U baru baru said don't want touch HSAO already.
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Looking at the risk-reward measure, HSAO is indeed not as good as HSAQ. Hence, my allocation 6% on HSAO and 14% on HSAQ.

Overall my target allocation:
35% Eastspring Investments GEMF
6% Hwang SAO
14% Hwang SAQ
30% OSK-UOB GEYF
15% Pacific GSF

But sometimes I had thought, 6% is too small, why waste time on it? Might as well leave Asia large caps to Pacific unsure.gif

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Nov 8 2013, 01:35 PM)
PGSF shows the best performance for the past months in my portfolio. Maybe it's time to let go HSAO  hmm.gif 

Is it stated in the annual report that PGSF invest mostly in Asia large caps? I don't remember reading it.
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Pacific has always been overweighting Asia ex-Japan large caps if u look at their recent annual reports. US+Europe+Japan have almost never exceeded 1/3 of their overall exposure.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 8 2013, 01:41 PM)
That makes PGSF looks like another AGEF.
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AGEF's country exposure is a lot more rigid. Pacific GSF is more flexible.
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 9 2013, 11:46 PM)
still shake head how you guys are treating unit trust like stock market...

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Xuzen,

Your analogy is flawed for several reasons:

1. I also got INVEST in KLSE stocks, and I buy buy buy and very rarely will I touch the "sell" button
2. With unit trusts, I buy buy buy buy buy and almost will never click the "sell" button unless to switch to a different fund which I think will have better potential

With "robotic" DCA approach, u will top up e.g. on every 15th of the month. My approach is a little bit different - I still top up every month, I top up less (or nothing at all) if the month has seen a super equity bull run, I top up more if it has been a bearish month; and I top up when market is gloomy, not on a fixed date of the month.

Pinky tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Zdes @ Nov 10 2013, 11:50 PM)
1st time posting in this thread,although I always visit this thread.
Started investing in unit trust on this September,my targeted allocation:
10%-AmDynamic
20%-KidSave
14%-Aberdeen Islamic World
14%-Osk GEYF
10.5%-AmAsia Pacific Equity
10.5%-Hwang SAQ
7%-Osk Equity Trust
7%-Kenanga Growth
7%-Eastspring Investment Small Cap
Was hoping sifu-sifu here can give some advice.
Is my allocation good?Or too much fund already?
I'm 21 this year btw...
Thanks a lot in advance!
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Hwang SAQ vs EI Small Cap
Aberdeen Islamic vs OSK GEYF
OSK Equity Trust vs AmAsia Pac EQ

These 3 are quite close to each other
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QUOTE(Zdes @ Nov 11 2013, 08:58 AM)
Hwang SAQ vs EI Small Cap
Aberdeen Islamic vs OSK GEYF
OSK Equity Trust vs AmAsia Pac EQ

These 3 are quite close to each other

So in your opinion,i should just focus on one of each?
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Yes, IMHO u should dump 3 of these 6.

If u ask my opinion, I'd say keep the bold ones.
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 11 2013, 11:45 AM)
hello there.

any reference for the bolded sentence?  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Nov 11 2013, 01:37 PM)
How come nobody talk about CIMB-Principal GTF? I think it is one of the best global fund in FSM and feed into PGI US, Jap & Europe equity funds.
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I did not like it bcos it's hard to find detailed info on its underlying holdings.

CIMB GT is a Feeder Fund, right? I go to Principal website...it's like a maze to me rclxub.gif

A good example would be Alliance Global Equities...it feeds into Fullerton Global Equities. I can find info on the Fullerton fund easily.

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