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post Oct 27 2013, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 08:58 AM)
Can someone confirm Google Youtube streaming is under AIMS@raja chulan?
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Google has their CDN within Malaysia. And it isn't located only in KL but other cities in Peninsular too like Penang and JB.
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post Oct 27 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 09:15 AM)
This is google peering data.
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=15169

In Malaysia they uses AIMS to deliver local content.
I am wondering if this really the root cause of youtube slowdown.
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Google peers directly with TM (you can do a traceroute), that link only states where in Malaysia Google peering point is located.

Well, TM and google do not have exactly a peering agreement, but more likely the latter has put a local CDN within the TM network.
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post Oct 27 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 09:34 AM)
So you are telling me that those other internet provider have peering policy with google thus they have no slowdown in youtube streaming?
While TM doesn't have one thus puting a local CDN and control all bandwidth of youtube streaming?
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The CDN is put there by Google. Almost all other ISPs also do the same thing. If TM only peers with Google, TM will have to pay Google a lot of money because of unbalanced traffic direction.
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post Oct 27 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 01:34 PM)
So TM didn't pay to google?
Then how to explain slowdown in youtube? Is it the CDN peers by own TM?
Celcom Pay to google?
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I don't think TM pays to Google, in fact I suspect is was the other way around.
The CDN servers are owned by Google. It works the way Netflix OpenConnect servers does. No peering, only CDN.
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post Oct 27 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 02:03 PM)
Then how come the youtube speed so slow.
It's clearly shown that the streaming had been throttled to 40-50kb/s.
The speed become normal at 1 am to 11 am
Google did that? Or TM?
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Highly likely the problem lies with the CDN servers itself. Therefore Google problem.
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post Oct 27 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 03:19 PM)
Google limit speed? First time hearing it sad.gif
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I don;t think Google do it with purpose though. It is common knowledge their kul* CDN has capacity problems.
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post Oct 27 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Alpha Wolf @ Oct 27 2013, 03:26 PM)
My youtube speeds are fine:
CODE
timestamp seconds 34.781
854x480, 0 average kbps, 100% volume
TagStreamPlayer, HTTP, 4378 kbps
10 stage fps, 25 video fps, 1 dropped, 0 kbps
accelerated video rendering, software video decoding
NaN db, 1 audio factor

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If you access YouTube via IPv6, the speed seems to be OK. It is the IPv4 YouTube that has problems, where people has to refresh the Youtube page just to get good speed.
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post Oct 27 2013, 04:15 PM

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Confirmed it is CDN problem.

Tested with the Kyoukai no Kanata video at http://youtu.be/L5eAWXiI4jA

tm-kul10

user posted image

tm-pen2

user posted image

The tm-pen2 sure has problems. So now kul* CDN is good while pen* one has problems.

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post Oct 27 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Alpha Wolf @ Oct 27 2013, 04:22 PM)
How do you switch CDN?
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Turn off IPv6 for youtube.com domain, then do 'recycle your IP address ---> check redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping' until you get the CDN you want. IPv6 users will always get kul* CDN servers.
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post Oct 27 2013, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 04:26 PM)
Refreshed. Still getting lousy result.
BTW, Are you streamyx user or unifi user?
Try this and see: http://redirector.googlevideo.com/videopla...8790E12&key=lh1
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I use Streamyx 4MB. That video of yours doesn't work here.
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post Oct 27 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 04:34 PM)
Just go here and download simply a video.
Since this one uses google server.
Working hard to traceroute the video. But no luck.
http://kissanime.com/Anime/Kyoukai-no-Kanata
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If you use Firefox + Greasemonkey + Download YouTube Videos as MP4 script, it is easy to do traceroute from the server where you download the video file.
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post Oct 28 2013, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Oct 28 2013, 06:26 PM)
btw this is result, 118.100.xx.xxx => tm-kul7 (118.100.0.0/18)

so what's good and bad about this? Thanks again.
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Sometimes it can be good, other times bad. If you get low download speed from YouTube, look up what CDN you are using then recycle your PPPoE until you got a different one, then test the speed again.

 

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