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post Oct 27 2013, 08:58 AM, updated 13y ago

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QUOTE(asellus @ Oct 27 2013, 08:50 AM)
The then IPv6 routing isn't really efficient then, just like for Facebook and Yahoo. That's why streaming videos from Facebook isn't really smooth here.

Very few IPv6 websites in US can be connected via non-HE transit, sees only C&W, Cogent and Atrato (EU).
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Can someone confirm Google Youtube streaming is under AIMS@raja chulan?

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post Oct 27 2013, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 08:58 AM)
Can someone confirm Google Youtube streaming is under AIMS@raja chulan?
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Google has their CDN within Malaysia. And it isn't located only in KL but other cities in Peninsular too like Penang and JB.
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post Oct 27 2013, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Oct 27 2013, 09:00 AM)
Google has their CDN within Malaysia. And it isn't located only in KL but other cities in Peninsular too like Penang and JB.
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This is google peering data.
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=15169

In Malaysia they uses AIMS to deliver local content.
I am wondering if this really the root cause of youtube slowdown.
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post Oct 27 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 09:15 AM)
This is google peering data.
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=15169

In Malaysia they uses AIMS to deliver local content.
I am wondering if this really the root cause of youtube slowdown.
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Google peers directly with TM (you can do a traceroute), that link only states where in Malaysia Google peering point is located.

Well, TM and google do not have exactly a peering agreement, but more likely the latter has put a local CDN within the TM network.
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post Oct 27 2013, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Oct 27 2013, 09:29 AM)
Google peers directly with TM (you can do a traceroute), that link only states where in Malaysia Google peering point is located.

Well, TM and google do not have exactly a peering agreement, but more likely the latter has put a local CDN within the TM network.
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So you are telling me that those other internet provider have peering policy with google thus they have no slowdown in youtube streaming?
While TM doesn't have one thus puting a local CDN and control all bandwidth of youtube streaming?
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post Oct 27 2013, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 09:34 AM)
So you are telling me that those other internet provider have peering policy with google thus they have no slowdown in youtube streaming?
While TM doesn't have one thus puting a local CDN and control all bandwidth of youtube streaming?
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The CDN is put there by Google. Almost all other ISPs also do the same thing. If TM only peers with Google, TM will have to pay Google a lot of money because of unbalanced traffic direction.
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post Oct 27 2013, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Oct 27 2013, 11:54 AM)
The CDN is put there by Google. Almost all other ISPs also do the same thing. If TM only peers with Google, TM will have to pay Google a lot of money because of unbalanced traffic direction.
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So TM didn't pay to google?
Then how to explain slowdown in youtube? Is it the CDN peers by own TM?
Celcom Pay to google?
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post Oct 27 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 01:34 PM)
So TM didn't pay to google?
Then how to explain slowdown in youtube? Is it the CDN peers by own TM?
Celcom Pay to google?
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I don't think TM pays to Google, in fact I suspect is was the other way around.
The CDN servers are owned by Google. It works the way Netflix OpenConnect servers does. No peering, only CDN.
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post Oct 27 2013, 02:03 PM

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Then how come the youtube speed so slow.
It's clearly shown that the streaming had been throttled to 40-50kb/s.
The speed become normal at 1 am to 11 am
Google did that? Or TM?
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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 02:03 PM)
Then how come the youtube speed so slow.
It's clearly shown that the streaming had been throttled to 40-50kb/s.
The speed become normal at 1 am to 11 am
Google did that? Or TM?
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Highly likely the problem lies with the CDN servers itself. Therefore Google problem.
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post Oct 27 2013, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Oct 27 2013, 02:58 PM)
Highly likely the problem lies with the CDN servers itself. Therefore Google problem.
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Google limit speed? First time hearing it sad.gif
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post Oct 27 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 03:19 PM)
Google limit speed? First time hearing it sad.gif
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I don;t think Google do it with purpose though. It is common knowledge their kul* CDN has capacity problems.
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post Oct 27 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 03:19 PM)
Google limit speed? First time hearing it sad.gif
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My youtube speeds are fine:
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timestamp seconds 34.781
854x480, 0 average kbps, 100% volume
TagStreamPlayer, HTTP, 4378 kbps
10 stage fps, 25 video fps, 1 dropped, 0 kbps
accelerated video rendering, software video decoding
NaN db, 1 audio factor

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post Oct 27 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Alpha Wolf @ Oct 27 2013, 03:26 PM)
My youtube speeds are fine:
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timestamp seconds 34.781
854x480, 0 average kbps, 100% volume
TagStreamPlayer, HTTP, 4378 kbps
10 stage fps, 25 video fps, 1 dropped, 0 kbps
accelerated video rendering, software video decoding
NaN db, 1 audio factor

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If you access YouTube via IPv6, the speed seems to be OK. It is the IPv4 YouTube that has problems, where people has to refresh the Youtube page just to get good speed.
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post Oct 27 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Oct 27 2013, 03:28 PM)
If you access YouTube via IPv6, the speed seems to be OK. It is the IPv4 YouTube that has problems, where people has to refresh the Youtube page just to get good speed.
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Tried with IPv4 with similar results:
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timestamp seconds 163.051
1920x1080, 0 average kbps, 50% volume
TagStreamPlayer, HTTP, 4775 kbps
10 stage fps, 31 video fps, 616 dropped, 0 kbps
software video rendering, software video decoding
-16.359 db, 1 audio factor

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post Oct 27 2013, 03:44 PM

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Doesn't tm traffic go to Google over myix peering?
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post Oct 27 2013, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Alpha Wolf @ Oct 27 2013, 03:40 PM)
Tried with IPv4 with similar results:
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timestamp seconds 163.051
1920x1080, 0 average kbps, 50% volume
TagStreamPlayer, HTTP, 4775 kbps
10 stage fps, 31 video fps, 616 dropped, 0 kbps
software video rendering, software video decoding
-16.359 db, 1 audio factor

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Try this link:
http://youtu.be/L5eAWXiI4jA

This is my max speed download via Youtube app
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post Oct 27 2013, 03:52 PM

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post Oct 27 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(darrenliew96 @ Oct 27 2013, 03:49 PM)
Try this link:
http://youtu.be/L5eAWXiI4jA

This is my max speed download via Youtube app
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Two minutes into the video and still at max transfer (I'm on 5Mbps Unifi) with IPv4:
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timestamp seconds 120.352
640x360, 0 average kbps, 100% volume
TagStreamPlayer, HTTP, 4603 kbps
10 stage fps, 25 video fps, 118 dropped, 0 kbps
software video rendering, software video decoding
NaN db, 1 audio facto

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post Oct 27 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Alpha Wolf @ Oct 27 2013, 04:00 PM)
Two minutes into the video and still at max transfer (I'm on 5Mbps Unifi) with IPv4:
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BTW, what CDN are you reported in.

http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping

Like mine:219.92.x.x tm-pen1

Any other TM user and streamyx user which would like to test the video download speed?

Video less than 10mins seems to work fine. (Load at full speed) 450kb/s
But not video over 10 mins which is 40kb/s

http://youtu.be/L5eAWXiI4jA

This post has been edited by darrenliew96: Oct 27 2013, 04:08 PM

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