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Investment SETIA ECOHILL (Version 4), Inspiring Eco Township in Semenyih
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divingfaces
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Oct 28 2013, 01:10 PM
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Very strange Monday. Alliance rep says my LO will mention DIBS, but what if SEH calls off DIBS? Then I spoke to SEH rep on the phone. She said the management is still discussing and will let all of us (those who have booked) this week what the latest story will be. Until we get some key details in b/w from SEH, it would not be wise to sign any bank LO, methinks.
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divingfaces
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Oct 28 2013, 03:09 PM
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My OCBC offer is BLR-2.4 only. No lockin. Not attractive at all. And they seem to act like the no-DIBS policy doesn't change anything.
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divingfaces
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Oct 28 2013, 03:17 PM
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Hmm.... I'll prolly go with Alliance (-2.45), unless others come back with better offers. QUOTE(vislai @ Oct 28 2013, 03:12 PM) i remember in thread version 3, one of our DSL buyer (Aquatilis) get blr -2.45, probably is because the loan amount over than 500k
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divingfaces
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Oct 28 2013, 03:25 PM
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UOB just informed me that they're putting all DIBS projects "on hold" until they get a clearer picture of things. Hmmm....
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divingfaces
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Oct 28 2013, 03:30 PM
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I had to call them to find out! QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 28 2013, 03:26 PM) Is it? too bad, my banker not informing me yet..
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divingfaces
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Oct 28 2013, 03:39 PM
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Like that issit? But what if the "rebate" to come is less than what DIBS will offer (not that I know how to count these things)? Shouldn't we get something concrete and black-and-white from SEH, know for certain what sort of "rebates" will be forthcoming (if it's coming at all) before we sign bank LO, bearing in mind that once we sign the LO, we'd be penalized if we subsequently decide to pull out? In any case, leceh la must pay interest while SEH is being constructed. QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 28 2013, 03:35 PM) I dont think it matters really, should you sign LO now and SEH says no DIBS and rebate is given - the amount of rebate will not be made known to Bank, and you will still serve the loan - perhaps instead of SEH paying the interest, you would be paying it, to me its more important to secure a loan than DIBS.
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divingfaces
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Oct 28 2013, 04:12 PM
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I see. Thanks for the input. But how come interests don't kick in till 50% drawdown? Different story for landed props vs apartments? Also, I wonder what you guys think of Stagnia, which I booked. I'd have liked Merrum etc. Did I pick a lemon? Is there something wrong with Stagnia, e.g., because it's a little too close to the perimeters of SEH? I personally have no issues with Stagnia's design, although Stagnia 3 seems to have an almost open dry kitchen, instead of in a room of its own, and also vs another Stagnia design which was both dry and wet kitchens! QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 28 2013, 03:59 PM) As i said it depends on your appetite. I personally thought the Merrum was steep at RM1m, but then after due consideration, I concluded that the price is justifiable. And, DIBS, yes, though it helps but the interest during construction would not be material till you have reached 50% drawdown. Hence, as long as there are rebates, I can digest the non DIBS - but, the rebate amount is immaterial, as I am not going to pull out from the project. Then again, what you said is valid - good to know what are we signing for in Black and White as it is a tedious process to withdraw.
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divingfaces
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Oct 28 2013, 04:41 PM
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I'm a little comforted by your view of Stagnia I didn't realise Stagnia is supposed to be part of Phase 2 but released early. Mine is sandwiched between the Semi-Ds fronting the highway and those with their backs against the perimeters of SEH. Hehe. Meanwhile, I'll just wait till SEH comes up with concrete plans (hopefully this week) to deal with the no-DIBS rule. Already have a couple of loan approvals, and am getting the banks to appeal for better terms. With any luck, all will be sorted out by next week! QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 28 2013, 04:31 PM) What I meant was the materiality of the interest. Only when the drawdown is approaching 50%, you would experience significant contribution to interest repayment. 2years construction, I would say, 50% drawdown will be in the 9th or 10th month of signing SPA. So, still bearable. Stagnia is alright in my view; just didnt like going so far in and dont know what is on the other side of the land - my first choice from the day of launch of WC has been Merrum and I went with Merrum eventually. Stagnia is having some premium because it is from Phase 2, not planned for launch together with Merrum. Layout isnt that bad either, their C-Shape was smaller than all the C-Shape in Merrum. Merrum B1 is also kinda weird the design, I personally think, some of the houses arent space effective - not the right layout, but they had to differentiate in one way or another - hence, I believe its okay.
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divingfaces
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Oct 28 2013, 05:23 PM
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Hehe, ok, ok, relaxing to lower blood pressure, while waiting for results from the last two banks, i.e., UOB and HSBC (these two banks are a bit slow-mo where my applications are concerned) BTW, would you be able to guesstimate how much DIBS would amount to if the SEH prop is RM1m? Knowing the figure will help as basis for comparison vs potential 'rebates'. QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 28 2013, 05:17 PM) Relax mate. My order of choice should I not hit the Merrum was Aravia and then Stagnia; Aravia only because the land size was big. Stagnia was my 2nd choice in terms of built up. But, luckily the Merrum B1 that I wanted was available and I managed to book that. Yeah, my loan has been approved with HSBC as well, just pending developer code prior to generating the LO. I am not keen in fighting for the BLR-2.45% / BLR-2.5%; at the end of the day, it is not so material to me. I am only keeping my options open now for offer from CIMB - since I am CIMB staff (whom did not take up the staff loan due to the restrictions) - the Bank is proposing for a better package. I would be glad if its BLR-3%; else, I will just go with HSBC since the Personal Banker who served me was so efficient and prompt. She's young too, should give her a push to do well.  This post has been edited by divingfaces: Oct 28 2013, 05:27 PM
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divingfaces
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Oct 29 2013, 09:47 AM
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Just called SEH again. They said they're seeking clarification from BN and will let us know by Thurs-Fri re. status of DIBS.
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divingfaces
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Oct 30 2013, 10:16 AM
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Gulp! QUOTE(Ambang2 @ Oct 30 2013, 07:34 AM) Btw, next year fuel price is going to increase due to government plan to rationalise petrol subsidy. Cost of property construction is expected to go up further even before GST kick in. There will be inflation n may result BNM to adopt monetary policy to increase OPR to curb inflation. My concern is not on high property price but rather on the possibility of rising interest rate. If my loan at SEH is RM900k n assuming BLR increase by 100 bps then my interest charge will skyrocket by 9k, which translate to RM750 additional interest per mth. Do u guys think this is very taxing? Anyone can share their view on this?
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divingfaces
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Oct 30 2013, 10:42 AM
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me no sms oso QUOTE(cheryee @ Oct 30 2013, 10:20 AM)
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divingfaces
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Oct 30 2013, 11:42 AM
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[quote=vislai,Oct 30 2013, 11:36 AM] probably.  [/quote How will SEH know if we have signed or not signed LO from bank leh? Bank will tell SEH issit ?
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divingfaces
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Oct 30 2013, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 30 2013, 12:19 PM) I didnt receive any SMS for them wo. How eh? Please update / clarify. Darween have u signed bank LO or still waiting for best offer? I'm gonna go with Alliance but will wait for clarification fr SEH re. DIBS or rebates. This post has been edited by divingfaces: Oct 30 2013, 12:23 PM
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divingfaces
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Oct 30 2013, 01:58 PM
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I'm supposed to get my draft LO from Alliance today. There was no mention of developer code oso. Others who have signed don't seem to have developer code issue. Strange. On DIBS/rebate, I'd be happy if, in lieu of DIBS, we get something like 8% rebate on downpayment! QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 30 2013, 01:51 PM) I am waiting for CIMB - my employer's offer. Initially, they said, they dont recognise variable income, so, I didnt bother them. Then, a banker named Ken took my docs and now, the application has been approved but they are waiting for HR to evaluate and reply on the rate as well as reno loan and other benefits since I am staff. Either way, still need to wait since Developer Code not out yet for HSBC to generate LO. I also havent got the Alliance LO - since, the Reno Loan havent know the status. Will sign next week.
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divingfaces
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Oct 30 2013, 02:08 PM
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I see. I wish SEH will hurry up and clarify the DIBS/rebate story. But then I guess they can only clarify once BN clarifies. Dunno how quick BN communicate matters. Hmmm.... QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 30 2013, 02:00 PM) I asked for my LO yesterday; but the banker said cannot give yet -- maybe cuz my Reno Loan havent come through - actually, I wouldnt mind cash rebate in lieu of DIBS too. Only HSBC requires the developer code - maybe they dont want to have any legal issues when comes to execution - but I believe this will be sorted out before SPA signing. I also understood from SEH Chris - that cash rebate will be given if DIBS is removed - should supplement the remaining 8%.
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divingfaces
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Oct 30 2013, 07:03 PM
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Er but what exactly does DISP entail? QUOTE(rusty @ Oct 30 2013, 05:46 PM) Yup mine one also DISP i assume is the same 
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divingfaces
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Nov 20 2013, 01:39 PM
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Wah so much uncertainty. And SEH hasn't even fixed a date for Stagnia signing. Sigh. QUOTE(cheryee @ Nov 20 2013, 10:48 AM) Yawoh, all are phase 1 purchasers but how possible is that to have a double standard on DIBS? Purchasers of Luzento, Monlis, Aravia and Stagnia better seek a written confirmation from SPS on the DIBS issue.
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divingfaces
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Nov 20 2013, 02:07 PM
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No wor. The last I called a couple of weeks back SEH said signing late Nov or early Dec. now more drama from BN. Can only call SEH next Mon when I'm back in town. Hopefully there will be some good news, although I foresee more drama cos LO will presumably no longer be valid if no DIBS and price changes. On top of that I've opened one of those accounts with Alliance for flexi based on original loan amount. Already kena charged. I blame this all on the half past six blardy gomen coming up with one policy a day to cause all this uncertainty! QUOTE(cheryee @ Nov 20 2013, 02:01 PM) Have you contacted SEH for further info?
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divingfaces
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Nov 20 2013, 02:27 PM
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This involves more than DIBS, no? For those who can't sign before the cut off date, must SEH now spell out price of property as separate from all the free this and that (SPA etc legal fees, MOT, etc), and does that mean our bank loan amount will be based only on the former? V messy lo. Life no peace. QUOTE(cavynz @ Nov 20 2013, 02:20 PM) If they offer you something to cover ur DIBS, its good enough. Dont think they will offer anything more than DIBS 
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