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Investment SETIA ECOHILL (Version 4), Inspiring Eco Township in Semenyih

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post Oct 28 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(divingfaces @ Oct 28 2013, 03:25 PM)
UOB just informed me that they're putting all DIBS projects "on hold" until they get a clearer picture of things. Hmmm....
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Is it? too bad, my banker not informing me yet..
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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 28 2013, 03:16 PM)
True hor..  should call leng lui agent instead... regret...  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Yalor, next purchase must get the leng lui agent lo! tongue.gif
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post Oct 28 2013, 03:30 PM

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I had to call them to find out!

QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 28 2013, 03:26 PM)
Is it? too bad, my banker not informing me yet..
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post Oct 28 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 28 2013, 03:25 PM)
Lol... no lah, you can opt to change to better massaging seat, 40 inches LCD monitor and ergonomic keyboard mah...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Sam kor,

U hire me with my current package and provide all those comfy stuff for me ya! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Oct 28 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Oct 28 2013, 11:59 AM)
Me today user posted image, u all party dulu ya!
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CY, get well soon. Catch you later.

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post Oct 28 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(shuiyu38 @ Oct 28 2013, 01:08 PM)
one banker told me have to sign the LO within 1 week... got such thing?
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The usual standard is 2 weeks to sign LO, but now market is competitive, some pressure you to sign cuz they dont want you taking the LO to other banks for counter offer.
You should have an expiry date in the LO.

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post Oct 28 2013, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(divingfaces @ Oct 28 2013, 01:10 PM)
Very strange Monday. Alliance rep says my LO will mention DIBS, but what if SEH calls off DIBS? Then I spoke to SEH rep on the phone. She said the management is still discussing and will let all of us (those who have booked) this week what the latest story will be. Until we get some key details in b/w from SEH, it would not be wise to sign any bank LO, methinks.
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I dont think it matters really, should you sign LO now and SEH says no DIBS and rebate is given - the amount of rebate will not be made known to Bank, and you will still serve the loan - perhaps instead of SEH paying the interest, you would be paying it, to me its more important to secure a loan than DIBS.

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post Oct 28 2013, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 28 2013, 01:39 PM)
if bank offer letter also got mention DIBS, should be very secure oledy...

if only SEH mention DIBS still valid but bank say not confirm, then u need to worry...

i think most likely the DIBS still valid but SPS is very careful on this so they not simply promise buyers...thumbs up for the SPS...not like some developers bluff here and there....haha...

in fact, HSBC and OCBC confirm to me this project will under DIBS....
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I dont know how this is going to pan out. But, being SPS, I am sure they will be able to pull the strings as their launch was in September.
What i understood from some banks that confirm DIBS regardless of budget, but now bankers arent saying anything till SPS gives the final verdict.
Also, SPS isnt saying anything perhaps because they havent got the DL for SEH. Nevertheless, its a good thing that they are not over promising anything - and taking the time to make informed decisions. I would still continue to purchase whether DIBS or non DIBS but expect rebate if no DIBS.

Similar to bro Doom2, CIMB, HSBC and HLB confirmed that this is a DIBS project and will be financed accordingly. However, we still need final confirmation from SPS.

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Like that issit? But what if the "rebate" to come is less than what DIBS will offer (not that I know how to count these things)? Shouldn't we get something concrete and black-and-white from SEH, know for certain what sort of "rebates" will be forthcoming (if it's coming at all) before we sign bank LO, bearing in mind that once we sign the LO, we'd be penalized if we subsequently decide to pull out? In any case, leceh la must pay interest while SEH is being constructed.


QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 28 2013, 03:35 PM)
I dont think it matters really, should you sign LO now and SEH says no DIBS and rebate is given - the amount of rebate will not be made known to Bank, and you will still serve the loan - perhaps instead of SEH paying the interest, you would be paying it, to me its more important to secure a loan than DIBS.
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QUOTE(vislai @ Oct 28 2013, 01:44 PM)
sam kor, already tried Rhb, but wait until now still no news, probably been rejected gua, their DSR calculation is quite low, maybe i can't pass their assessment. Anyway, i am going to sign cimb. their lenglui banker will come to find me later. rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Bro Vislai,

Yes, RHB DSR is too low, they took alot of loans for processing, but application rate vs approval rate varies alot; they cant book loans if DSR is >80% and their income recognition (bonus/allowance) is low too thus low DSR.

Congrats, I am still waiting for CIMB to come back to me as they are working on a special package since I am staff. smile.gif
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 28 2013, 02:24 PM)
this is my own personal bad experience with RHB la, maybe other got good experience with RHB...

but i really have very bad impression on this RHB, i spent whole day just to get some detail about my loan and even went to the main branch, somehow they cannot provide me the simple info, all behave like a fresh grad even though the manager come out also talk to me like a silly person and ask me go to Bangi branch to ask detail, ask them to call, they say cannot as they dont interrupt other branch matter......feel like want to slap his face....

so now for any house loan, i will only straight apply on HSBC, OCBC, UOB and standard charted...
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RHB have customer service issues - they are not as aggressive as other banks - I dont have any bad experience, but since I worked there previously, we had tough time educating the bankers on the new credit application. Similarly, I also apply HSBC, OCBC, SCB, Citi (if got) and CIMB.

However, for SEH package, they were exceptionally fast though low DSR.
Pre-approval status was known within a day and they by far have the best package.


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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 28 2013, 03:04 PM)
I did the same, why mine taking 9 working days instead?  mad.gif  mad.gif
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Bro sam,

You should have applied to Sherlyn, the leng lui. Efficient and effective. Banker with looks. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(cheryee @ Oct 28 2013, 03:29 PM)
Yalor, next purchase must get the leng lui agent lo!  tongue.gif
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post Oct 28 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 28 2013, 03:55 PM)
Bro sam,

You should have applied to Sherlyn, the leng lui. Efficient and effective. Banker with looks.  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Bro darween, yeah, regret already. Miss the chance, should contact lenglui agent at the first place.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(divingfaces @ Oct 28 2013, 03:39 PM)
Like that issit? But what if the "rebate" to come is less than what DIBS will offer (not that I know how to count these things)? Shouldn't we get something concrete and black-and-white from SEH, know for certain what sort of "rebates" will be forthcoming (if it's coming at all) before we sign bank LO, bearing in mind that once we sign the LO, we'd be penalized if we subsequently decide to pull out? In any case, leceh la must pay interest while SEH is being constructed.
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As i said it depends on your appetite.
I personally thought the Merrum was steep at RM1m, but then after due consideration, I concluded that the price is justifiable.
And, DIBS, yes, though it helps but the interest during construction would not be material till you have reached 50% drawdown.
Hence, as long as there are rebates, I can digest the non DIBS - but, the rebate amount is immaterial, as I am not going to pull out from the project. Then again, what you said is valid - good to know what are we signing for in Black and White as it is a tedious process to withdraw.

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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 28 2013, 03:59 PM)
Bro darween, yeah, regret already. Miss the chance, should contact lenglui agent at the first place..  cry.gif
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No worries. There's always another prop to look for.
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QUOTE(cheryee @ Oct 28 2013, 03:31 PM)
Sam kor,

U hire me with my current package and provide all those comfy stuff for me ya!  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Aiyo, CY mui mui loaded, can be self supplied mah, for the sake of comfortness to pou in Lyn... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif tongue.gif
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post Oct 28 2013, 04:12 PM

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I see. Thanks for the input. But how come interests don't kick in till 50% drawdown? Different story for landed props vs apartments?

Also, I wonder what you guys think of Stagnia, which I booked. I'd have liked Merrum etc. Did I pick a lemon? Is there something wrong with Stagnia, e.g., because it's a little too close to the perimeters of SEH? I personally have no issues with Stagnia's design, although Stagnia 3 seems to have an almost open dry kitchen, instead of in a room of its own, and also vs another Stagnia design which was both dry and wet kitchens!



QUOTE(darween13 @ Oct 28 2013, 03:59 PM)
As i said it depends on your appetite.
I personally thought the Merrum was steep at RM1m, but then after due consideration, I concluded that the price is justifiable.
And, DIBS, yes, though it helps but the interest during construction would not be material till you have reached 50% drawdown.
Hence, as long as there are rebates, I can digest the non DIBS - but, the rebate amount is immaterial, as I am not going to pull out from the project. Then again, what you said is valid - good to know what are we signing for in Black and White as it is a tedious process to withdraw.
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QUOTE(samkps @ Oct 28 2013, 04:00 PM)
Aiyo, CY mui mui loaded, can be self supplied mah, for  the sake of comfortness to pou in Lyn...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  tongue.gif
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I tah gung only! If boss goreng me, I cannot even afford to makan mix rice wei! cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(divingfaces @ Oct 28 2013, 04:12 PM)
I see. Thanks for the input. But how come interests don't kick in till 50% drawdown? Different story for landed props vs apartments?

Also, I wonder what you guys think of Stagnia, which I booked. I'd have liked Merrum etc. Did I pick a lemon? Is there something wrong with Stagnia, e.g., because it's a little too close to the perimeters of SEH? I personally have no issues with Stagnia's design, although Stagnia 3 seems to have an almost open dry kitchen, instead of in a room of its own, and also vs another Stagnia design which was both dry and wet kitchens!
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What I meant was the materiality of the interest. Only when the drawdown is approaching 50%, you would experience significant contribution to interest repayment. 2years construction, I would say, 50% drawdown will be in the 9th or 10th month of signing SPA. So, still bearable. Stagnia is alright in my view; just didnt like going so far in and dont know what is on the other side of the land - my first choice from the day of launch of WC has been Merrum and I went with Merrum eventually. Stagnia is having some premium because it is from Phase 2, not planned for launch together with Merrum. Layout isnt that bad either, their C-Shape was smaller than all the C-Shape in Merrum. Merrum B1 is also kinda weird the design, I personally think, some of the houses arent space effective - not the right layout, but they had to differentiate in one way or another - hence, I believe its okay.




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