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ik3da
post Dec 6 2013, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Dec 6 2013, 04:01 PM)
hey...sifu and gurus...need some advice icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  notworthy.gif

i got a job offer for SGD3000....

there is no CPF offered as I'm foreigner  cry.gif  cry.gif ...

is this offer ok?..as in isit enough to survive in singapore as the accomodation alone will be SGD1000 dy...

please help to advise me on it... icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  notworthy.gif  nod.gif

background infor: I'm a malaysian currently working in malaysian and is planning to move there. This will include set up cost and all. smile.gif
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As what sinner mentioned, you need to share more on your qualifications/experiences first - if you are a fresh grad, SGD3k is a decent/good deal. If you are experienced and already earning around RM4k+ in Malaysia, then I would rather look out a bit more first. FYI I just jumped job and I am still being mobbed with a lot of job offers... I think the market is quite good for IT BA/consultants so far.

*Surviving in SG on SGD3k is definitely do-able if that is what you wondering though. I started off at SGD3500 and I still managed to saved quite a bit during the time (stayed in HDB, one room to myself and I did not have to starve myself at all).
ik3da
post Dec 9 2013, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(rotinhell @ Dec 9 2013, 12:24 PM)
Hey all, i'm a fresh grad in mechanical engineering from MY and looking for a job in SG but have applied through JobStreet for nearly 2 months and have no response so far... do you think something wrong somewhere?

TQ smile.gif
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1. Look at your own resume, review/verify/update it against general guidelines of resumes from the Internet
2. Go through more job portals and ads (even old stuff like newspapers), and consider coming down to SG to go to the headhunters/agents to do face-to-face meet ups
3. Keep trying and keep waiting, sometimes you just gotta wait a bit and see.
ik3da
post Dec 10 2013, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(rotinhell @ Dec 10 2013, 01:57 PM)
Do you know any job portals other than JobStree.com.sg?
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JobsDB, Monster, eFinancialCareers, Hays, Kelly Services, RecruitExpress… LoL, search a bit for it and you find more than enough. Additionally, you can always go to the companies site directly and check out the career pages.

I used to go through the Friday and weekend newspaper for job ads too, not sure if it is still the norm or not.
ik3da
post Jan 2 2014, 01:52 PM

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Guys, now with a child on the way, I am considering of converting and buying a place here before he/she pops out. Problem is, I am wondering if any of you guys converted so far and whether is it worth it?

*FYI I love M'sia and the env (not including the crime and idiots) and I was hoping to return in M'sia one day (thus if I do convert, my wife won't and vice versa).
ik3da
post Jan 2 2014, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 2 2014, 02:07 PM)
Why do you need to convert to buy? PR oso can buy resale mah although yes there is ABSD. You're obviously not planning to buy BTO since you want the place within next half a year.
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My current rental agreement binds me for one more year to go and additionally, I am considering of raising my kid here until I eventually go back (I hope). Wondering if it would be a better choice to convert myself into a Singkie to get baby bonus/choice of citizenship for my kid/child benefits etc?

*Additionally, I was only a PR since last year whereas my wife has been a PR for years (more than 3), not sure if the new HDB ruling (PR must have stayed more than 3 years) apply to me and my wife or not.
ik3da
post Jan 2 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(crazy25kid @ Jan 2 2014, 02:47 PM)
maybe new PR?
BTO hell lot cheaper than resale
baby bonus
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New PR + baby bonus. BTO-wise, I am still thinking, need to find an agent and discuss what options do I have, but preferably kepoh with you all before I offer myself to the sharks.

QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Jan 2 2014, 03:00 PM)
Good choice to raise the kids here for safety and education. But you need to sacrifice not seeing them often next time. Your kids won't want to go back Malaysia with you one. I am one of the kids half raised in SG, degree onwards but spent most my secondary school holidays here. Already felt so unfamiliar with MY after I graduate 4 years later. Your SG fully raised kids... MY only a holiday place to them when you bring them back during school holidays. My sis who study JC here hate this place though.

No free lunch one SG gahmen, you want rip the housing subsidy and baby bonus, they ripper you back later. If son he need to do 2 years NS and 10 years reservist. If financially affordable, give him the choice to decide later when he grow up. But if you really need the citizen subsidies then by all means.
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It is not firm whether boy or girl yet but my wife is very keen with SG due to the same things that you mentioned, safety and education. I do however think that education is quite okay in M'sia - after all, I think I turned out well as many other buggers that I know of biggrin.gif The raising part in SG, I think most of them wouldn't want to return to M'sia also, that's pretty much expected after all the friends/lifestyle in SG but I am worried by converting and raising my kid (if boy) here, would sentencing him to NS for sure. I talked to many NS-bound folks, at least 50% thinks that the 2 years were a waste of time when other folks (M'sian etc) are already working or getting masters etc.

The citizen subsidies are really good to be frank, housing/education/childcare etc are very enticing. It will definitely make my life an easier one, but I am still rather reluctant to give Negaraku for Majulah Singapura. Sigh, starting to consider also if it is wise to raise a M'sian kid in JB while buy a house in SG and continue working here as PR.
ik3da
post Jan 3 2014, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jan 3 2014, 12:46 AM)
buy later, housing is expected to drop.. convert to singkie, return by msia my 2nd home... get AP n get tax free, buy 7-series/s-class for the price of saga in singkieland

buy condo, dunnit care or pr or watsoever

Resale prices of public flats seen falling 1.3 per cent in Q4: HDB - See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/property/news/...h.C0XpkerP.dpuf
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Thanks for the article, good to hear that the price are cooling down, even by a bit. Just called HDB folks, I am not eligible to buy HDB as I am only PR for barely a year.
QUOTE(wlcling @ Jan 3 2014, 09:07 AM)
Yup I did it mainly for subsidy and house (housing grant 40k and option to buy new flats cheaper) in fact, Waiting for my new dbss to be ready this year. For new couples there is a new scheme right, for cheap rental flat before house is ready.

Ask yourself will you or do you want your children to go back to Msia to stay? Or go Malaysia just for holidays?
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I want to go back to semi-retire one day, kids wise I do not mind either place as long they don't mind it. I am looking at minimally another 8-10 years before I will make the move back to KL/M'sia unless I go big and earned well enough to retire earlier.

You actually converted to SG? Was it tedious/long-winded and how long did it took you? Only you convert or both you and your wife? No worries fi you not keen to share too much private info publicly, I don't mind PM if you want. Just like to hear out from fellow M'sians before I make my move.
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post Jan 3 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Jan 3 2014, 12:24 PM)
i want to ask.. i hve graduate from local university and have qualification in IT with just diploma level.. can work in singapore? malaysian local uni gt being certified by them or x?
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Not sure bout the M'sian local uni but my company just hired a few pinoys/pinays for IT positions and I do know that a few of them only have diplomas in hand. I do think that you can still try and see if you lucked out, for me it all depends on how you sell yourself (resume, cover letter, interviews etc).
ik3da
post Jan 3 2014, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jan 3 2014, 03:03 PM)
Paperwork is as tedious as apply for PR. But additionally u need to complete some e-learning courses, join the citizenship ceremony and also complete some tour... Just need to schedule your time lo...

Me and my son is sgporean now, my wife is still Malaysian as I had the same idea to have a 'backup' plan... But we're looking to get her converted soon too!

I guess if you high earner then can live without the subsidies and then go back kl to live like a king when retire...  But for us... Not so elite class have to get government assistance lo... Haha we've lived in Sg for 8 over years already... So accustomed to it, so it's now out comfort zone... But in fact, if things go swell this year we may even relocate to shanghai but remain Sg citizens to keep the house and collect rent.

To add, it may be tough for your kid at a later age to move to Malaysia after being in singapore.. They will lose all their friends smile.gif
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Hmm you got pretty much the same idea that I have here, I don’t really earn like really a lot but should still be able to live comfortably here without converting to SPR. Problem is I am tempted by the money and benefits that my child and wife can enjoy if either me or my wife convert. It will certainly help out well smile.gif

How long did the whole process took you? I wanna see if it is possible for me to wait till I can confirm on my baby’s gender or if I have more time to think/talk before my baby pops out.

Good luck on your Shanghai plan too! I like the place but I am rather worried of the crappy air condition there, not really good for health.

On kid to go back M’sia, that’s another headache too, hmm… Really a lot to consider for myself if I really wanna go back M’sia one day. Need to talk this out with my wife once I get sufficient info sweat.gif
ik3da
post Jan 3 2014, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(keelim @ Jan 3 2014, 06:18 PM)
If your basis for conversion is on monetary grounds, I strongly suggest you to reconsider. IF you arrive at the same conclusion, then re-consider.
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One of the reason why my head spinning hahaha sweat.gif
QUOTE(wlcling @ Jan 3 2014, 06:18 PM)
No worries bro, I had the same dilemma when making the switch... But all I can say is raising a kid is a big pain to financials... I think you will already start feeling the pain when bringing your wife to obstetrician for the visits right. Later on have to pay for jabs and also paeditrician and notwithstanding the adhoc medical bills if there are complications. And of course milk, diapers, toys to buy, (< hohoho u think they are cheap?) etc... And maybe a home helper and later on infant care fees, childcare fees, etc.. What I'm trying to say is you have to watch out your costs otherwise if there is no saving then it also doesn't work towards your target of retirement in Malaysia yup smile.gif

The process takes about 6 months. 2 to 3 months for approval and few more months to complete formalities and receive red nric...

How many years have u been in Sg? If already many many years and you are still undecided then think twice about converting. If only a few years and you are ok so far then I can more so dare to instigate u to take the plunge.. Haha but pls forgive me for my one-sided view as I am already on the other side while >80% Malaysians seem to disagree for some reason
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Each visit to the gynae costs me around SGD200-300 currently ($300 for the blood test + normal visit etc). I am starting to sweat lol. Hmm, 6 months, that's just in time that my baby pops out. Need to expedite this already, hmmm....

On years in SG? I think it is 6-7 years now, but I only applied PR last year cause I was lazy (yeah, stupid of me, sigh). Quite undecided cause I just do not want to go through the hassle of conversion and to ended up regretting it biggrin.gif Still, appreciate the advice and haha, gonna try to think and talk through this with my wife tonight. Gotta make up my mind before it blows up from unnecessary pressure lol.
ik3da
post Jan 4 2014, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jan 3 2014, 06:44 PM)
Personally, I wouldn't retire in Singapore. It's just too high cost to stay here when you have no more active income. It costs at least S$1000-1500 a month to live like a outcast here in Singapore, assuming you've paid off your flat, have no car and no other significant liabilities. With an equivalent RM2500-3750 in Ipoh, I can drive (even pay the instalment on a new car) and enjoy eating/spending much more. And if I sell the flat in SG, the proceeds will buy me a pretty nice place in Ipoh. Same if I rent out in SG, and rent in Ipoh. The excess will double my spending power in Ipoh. So I wouldn't give up my Malaysian citizenship. About MM2U... don't assume you can definitely get it if you gave up your citizenship, especially in recent years, in this political climate. And even if you get it, it just takes a stroke of a pen from some bureaucratic ayatollah to take it away overnight.

Anyway, the deal breaker for me is driving. I cannot imagine getting older, more frail, and have to chase public transport! For me, the older I get, the more comfortable my car has to be. If I live another 30 years after I retire, I'd have to pay another 3 COEs. No way.

As for those couples where one converts to SG citizenship, and the spouse remains Malaysian... I would say best for the wife to convert. Husband remains Malaysian. The reason is that a lot of laws (nationality, immigration, inheritance etc) follow the line of the father, not the mother.
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Thanks for sharing bro, my wife is currently checking with the Kelantan lawyers now, need to see what we should do with her props in there. I personally don't want to retire in SG too (unless I hit the lottery or something). However with a kid on the way, I have to decide a lot of things in a short time period, especially if I want a place to raise the kid here in SG. Education, raising him/her up, and even the lifestyle... Hmm, really can't decide easily enough.

Citizenship application wise, I think it should be a decent chance with my wife's SPR expiring this year, I would imagine they might prefer my wife to convert but however if worst case scenario, I guess it helps me to make up my mind easier too. No need to think, just tahan and work to make ends meet sweat.gif
QUOTE(deodorant @ Jan 3 2014, 08:20 PM)
I asked my agent, she said 2x PR can buy resale HDB as long as one of you > 3 years.
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Bro, confirm? I called HDB council and they said no this morning, that's why I am like so stressed up over the house. You mind sharing your agent contact details with me to chat further? Appreciate it a lot man!
QUOTE(ivanswk @ Jan 4 2014, 12:23 AM)
been through the same  sweat.gif
depending on your location you from, i use two gynae, one here in sg and one in kl
in kl with the conversion etc u get bang for bucks like single room...

if i am not wrong, most child benefit is tied to the mother, so if your wife convert u get those benefit already
if u decided sg is the way to go then do fast also, cause it also tied to income, when hit certain salary lesser benefit
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Haha, what did you do in the end man? Stay in SG or? I am hoping for my wife to convert to be frank. She will get to take 4 months paid leave and a lot of other benefits also, however as she have props in Kelantan, she will have to do something bout it which I worry might drag the overall citizenship application. Worst case scenario, don't convert and we just tough it out.

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