I wonder whats the average age of you guys. Seems like most of you are earning >$3.5k

For me I will take it. Imagine the money. (right now, I'm money driven, or at least for the next 3 years)
RM13,000 x 12 month + 6 months bonus = RM234,000/annum
SGD11,000 x 12 months x 2.5 = RM330,000/annum (you have extra SGD3,333/month which can be used for rental) - this haven't include AWS/bonus yet.

But then again, it depends, since you are that high up, will you be respected here after the downgrade?
Do you see any potential growing in other market instead of Singapore?
Family/Loans/anything pulling you back?


This post has been edited by NoiZy: Dec 2 2013, 04:00 PM

Is money an issue to you? Loosing out on that lucrative deal in the next 5 years before you make the jump to Eu?

But think of it this way, you gotta gamble though. If you can solve the sh!ts in SG or better yet, make it flourish, it means you can excel in a different market (environment), wouldn't that be something to brag about when you are head-hunted/job-hunting for something in Europe? However if it fails, there goes a black-spot on your job history I think.

Argiope is right on the abbreviation.
@pinksapphire From what I've heard its pretty much like bonus, some gives extra, some gives one month.
The difference,
Monthly is the standard where you get payout every fixed date of the month, so you get 12 payouts per year.
4 week payout is there will be a payout every 4 weeks, 1 year = 52 weeks, 52 weeks = 13 payouts. (so some people told me usually AWS = 1 month, which is base on this calculation, and usually if you have this you don't have bonus, or something in that line. I'm not sure as I'm still new here, end of the year I'm still under probation)

Hope I'm right and not confusing you even further

This post has been edited by NoiZy: Dec 2 2013, 06:13 PM

You lay it out nicely. I'm stuck here for a year, hoping to get a PR or something in that line. My aim will be returning into business development/strategy, I noticed the jobs I want are only open to SG/PR only. And all I'm aiming for is just an executive level.

Levy

I can say you don't really have to worry about this. If you are called for an interview etc, that means they have already considered this fact. One thing you might wanna pay attention to is that this levy is suppose to be borne by the company and not you. Some stuffs that I heard from friends of friends: When they offer you SGD2k, in actual fact its only SGD1400, while SGD600 is for the levy. Or upfront they will tell you that you will bear the levy by half/full etc. So far when I went to interview, one company did that in a subtle way, but the rest are still good. Regardless the case, just read the and initial each page before signing.

This post has been edited by NoiZy: Dec 5 2013, 12:21 PM

They don't have a cut-off date for these kind of things.

eg:
Entered 3/1, exit 21/1 (19 days)
Entered 1/2, exit 25/2 (25 days) = 44 days total
Entered 1/3, MUST exit 16/3 (16 days) = total 60 days

Your next re-entry will be on 3/4 because 3/1 - 3/4 is 90 days (assuming Feb has 28 days)

Assuming you didn't re-enter on 3/4, but re-enter on 10/4 instead, you must exit by 28/4 as you've used up 60 days.
Counting the re-entry date on 1/2, you have cumulated yet another 60 out of 90 days stay.

If you literally want a fresh 60 days, ensure you did not enter SG for 90 continuous days.

This is sort of like compounding days, some guys from Agencies who liaise with MOM taught me this calculation. Similar to the demerit points on Malaysian Driver's License.

Its easier to explain this by simply drawing a few lines then using words. Hope you get the picture.

p/s: This is not info from Custom or anything, just some people who liaise with MOM, even they might be wrong or info has been updated etc.
But easiest and surest way of em all, ask the officer who is stamping for you, if you are shy, go find does who are on guard/patrol duty, ask politely and most people will be more then happy to help.

I believe 60 days is enough for getting a job, I spent 1 month looking for job, and was already renting a room with my friends, so once the contract ends, I will move somewhere nearer to the work place.

My tips, get a SG mobtel, put that into your CV, send it out via jobstreet and you can engage EA (Employment Agency) to assist in your job hunt (don't put too much hope here). When looking for jobs, I would put higher hope to job ads that welcomes Malaysian and request go direct to HR instead of EA.

EA competition in SG is very stiff.

Yup. didn't really know much, but the landlady gave me the contract, read through, no hidden stuff, everything clear cut, just fill in my passport and details, and I got myself a room. Shitty part is I can't cook there.

Nevermind, cause I just needed a place to crash for the time being, will move out from Marsiling to either Bishan/Braddell or Buona Vista area. But that is for another time.

Not just Chinese, I met a lot Malays too, but they are not the typical Malays, these bunch are very good, maybe thats why they are here instead of back home.

You will still need your SPM certificate with you, I used my Degree, but at the same time they needed my SPM too.

Just bursting some bubbles. Haha. No worries, over here no vroom vroom as we are all quite mature and smart enough not to be that barbaric right.

IMHO (I might be wrong), low-mid level job in SG are likely to be more shitty then similar jobs back in Malaysia. My current boss complains and say won't bother reading most of our mail cuz he receive 200++ emails per day, he dare to say if he read every single email he no need go lunch, everyday just read only. I wanted to tell him my previous job in Msia, my boss receives 500++ emails on normal days, and 800 emails on peak season. Me myself can receive 50-100 emails normally and 200 emails on peak season . I late 30 minute reply email, you shoot me slow, inefficient, I direct send to client email within 5 minutes, you shoot me say no let you see draft, I send you draft, you say no time read, I walk in your room and seek your advice, you say no one does that here, just email wll do.

To his (current boss) defence, he said he has emails from Finance, Admin, Marketing, Sales, 3 Taiwan, 1 China, 1 Philippine partners, and clients. I wanted to say I last time usually liaise with Hotels all over Malaysia, 6 Event Organisers, numerous vendors, Technology team, customer service team, regional management team, marketing, product team, 160 business partners, logistic (GDex).



Ok, back to main topic, job can be much tougher (culture of kiasu etc), but pay is usually higher. The time I spent liaising with one person, back in my old job I could have liaise with 3 person already. Boss say must be polite and be long-wind, must be humble and every 2-3 sentence got some wind blow people, every paragraph must got strong wind blow, blow until angkat tinggi tinggi.
If no wind = rude, if rude = complain, if complain = Msia worker stupid dumb and barbaric (well, they didn't say it in that way, but they painted this picture quite clear to me, I wonder am I just unlucky to get THIS job, maybe other job not that bad)

So from a 'please refer attached confirmed visual for processing, job should be done by tomorrow 3pm, if any troubles, kindly give us a call',
we need to have 1 paragraph saying please please please look at the attach file, one paragraph to say please process for us, one paragraph begging the job to be done by 3pm tomorrow, and last paragraph to inform us if the lead time is too short.

Ok i rant enough already, terima kasih for listening, I feel much better now.

This post has been edited by NoiZy: Dec 17 2013, 06:24 PM

If you could find this reply, I'm amazed by how you could not read the following




I think Mr. Smart is trying to say PASSPORT.....

Anyway, if you want the troublesome but much legal and potentially cheaper method, go rent a room in JB, travel in/out daily. Since you are not really working, you can avoid peak hours and go in after 10am, and exit at night or before 4pm.

By the way, you can stay continuous 30 days, I wrote that in the white card, the custom officer only asked me to put down the address I'm staying at, even if its aunty's place. They just need to know where.