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~Curious~
post Mar 1 2018, 11:27 AM

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hi guys,
I'm earning slightly less than 2.5k a month =( I'm already contributing 2k to my household expense,thankfully my sibling bears d bulk of our family expenses - tht leaves my sibling with a really heavy burden. I'd like to help out pay off some expenses.
Not wanting to risk job changes now, wad can I do with RM500 a month?
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post Mar 1 2018, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Mar 1 2018, 12:23 PM)
Mayb you could provide more info before forummer give their valueble comments, such as :

What you have + what you owe
Do you have emergency fund
Are you adequately insured
What is your risk apetite etc
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hrmm.....
- I owe RM500 monthly to PTPTN
- RM400 a month (eating out for lunch, breakfast and dinner i eat at home)
- RM200 on petrol ( spend about RM50 a week on petrol)
- RM300+ on my insurance premium monthly, its just the bare minimum though (due to my medical condition, i have loading)
- about 700 a month for an investment plan I purchased from Allianz.

- have a joint property with my sibling and parent (but its in quite a not so demanded area, so it's hard to sell/rent out)
- living in a self-owned terrace house.

I earn 2.5 k a month with no EPF benefits =( adn Ive been working 4-5 years =(. Its an industry I din get my degree in , so I still need to invest my time to learn industry-related stuff. That puts part-time jobs out of the picture I guess

My risk appetite is probably low to medium.

After all this deducted, I have about RM500 or so to spare.So I'm seeking advice from forummers on how I can use this monthly spared cash to grow my income.
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post Mar 1 2018, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Mar 1 2018, 02:23 PM)
Do you have more info regarding the Allianz Investment Plan? Is it a saving plan or something?
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its a savings plan..pay rm700 for 20 years,then the plan starts giving back money after 20 years...i bought it coz i no epf.

QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 1 2018, 02:41 PM)
Just curious why RM500 monthly to PTPTN.
I knew someone borrowed ~RM80k (Engineering field) but only pay around RM400 monthly @ 20 years.
Yours must be pay extra and very sure not medical/law field since the pay is only RM2.5k
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actually i graduated from a degree in biotech..coz of my medical condition,i got hired at an IT firm.
d monthly installment is estimate coz i havent checked with my statements..i oni know d sum is arnd there

QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 1 2018, 02:41 PM)
I never knew company can opt not to pay EPF. Anything to do about it?
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Wad do you advise? I can't quit my job and don't intend to break down relations with my employers wor.I'm like stuck in a rut.

QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 1 2018, 02:41 PM)
And yes, please review your investment plan again.
It may be a little overpriced and I don't think they can give much returns since it contains much charges.
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Hrmm yeah I shud have thot of that..I'll call d agent up..but wad charges do u mean?

QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 1 2018, 02:41 PM)
How about the monthly for joint property loan?
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its already been paid in full,but its not in a great location - so no rental yield or wadeva yield from there at all.


QUOTE(55665566 @ Mar 1 2018, 02:41 PM)
If low risk, try to get ASNB. RM500 monthly is a good amount actually.
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where to buy ASNB?its alwiz sold out rite?

QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 1 2018, 02:59 PM)
I see that you have left out the RM700 investment plan, so you have savings of 50% out of your salary. Good...

Maybe review the investment plan, and group it together with the other RM500 as monthly savings for consideration.
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Now that you mention..I dont feel so bad about my financial situation haha..

QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 1 2018, 02:59 PM)
Ideally, one should have some long term objectives as well as short term objectives. Then split the savings accordingly to the objectives.

Not every ringgit we earn need to be in "investments" to gain returns.
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My short term goal is to get more returns so I can offload some hsehold burden from my sibling. My sibling used to earn alot from working in O&G and then retrenchment happened,and now works for a fraction of the pay previously. Due to not-so-good economic senses, she took out a loan for us to reno hse and now is stuck servicing a big fat loan. So I sorta feel I should help out too.



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post Mar 2 2018, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Mar 1 2018, 10:48 PM)
Passive income refers to dividends or interests or profits earn from passive investments such as stocks, unit trusts, EPF or fixed deposits.

It is quite impossible, in the short term, to get an adequate and sizeable amount of dividend from these passive investments since it takes many, many years of savings to build up a big enough principal or capital to generate the dividend.

Say if you need 1k of passive income every month, and the dividend is about 10%, the capital will have to be 120k to get the income of 12k in a year.

And this dividend of 10% is an assumption. Statistically, the best possible return from equities and unit trust funds is about 8%... and this is the best. To be on the cautious side, it is wiser to use 6% and the capital is set at 200k to generate the passive income of 12k per annum.

To get higher returns with limited capital, it will be either riskier investments with active trading (trading forex, bitcoin or in stocks) or small businesses with active participation (pasar malam stall, burger stand, etc).

Or get a better job with higher pay… which requires no capital, and needless to say, don’t have to build up any capital from any savings.

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To Curious,

To help your sister, it would be easier to give her a few hundred or half of the monthly leftover of RM500. Keep the other half as savings for a rainy day or any short term needs that you wish to have.

Get a better job that commensurate with your qualifications… as it is currently, you are at welfare level and qualify for BR1M.
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I alwiz simple mindedly tot that passive income is a short term thing.
U mentioned about short,mid and long term goals - is there somewhere I can read more about it..maybe get some guidelines
ah then can u point me in d direction of investing the RM500 to get returns in maybe a few years time?
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post Mar 2 2018, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Mar 2 2018, 11:12 AM)
How old are you?

If you are age between 20-30, i will suggest you start invest in PRS, Private Retirement Scheme. Under PRS Youth incentive, if you are aged 20-30 you are entitled 1k incentive from government (one-off).

https://www.ppa.my/prs-youth/prs-youth-incentive/

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ah i missed d age limit .am 32 years of age.
QUOTE(Smurfs @ Mar 2 2018, 11:12 AM)
-build an emergency fund of 3-6 month of your monthly salary park at somewhere liquid, ie FD or Money Market Fund.

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wads money market fund?

QUOTE(Smurfs @ Mar 2 2018, 11:12 AM)
-Calculate your total networth & track your monthly expenses by using excel.

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How do i go about that?


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post Feb 27 2019, 11:49 AM

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hi,im sorta a dummy to this.
previously i nvr seriously kept track of my expenditure vs income, that's all gotta change today onwards.
can someone recommend me a good app to use to track my finances,or would a regular excel sheet juz do?

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post Mar 1 2019, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 27 2019, 12:00 PM)
These worked perfectly well when I first started....
light, small and ease of use and on the spot recording is possible
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haha..i prefer not to use paper,not so green..hehe....

QUOTE(roarus @ Feb 28 2019, 04:21 PM)
I used Money Lover when I got started. For the few initial months I tracked where my money was going and next determined where I can cut. You may find it good/annoying because it reminds you at 8pm daily if you have not made any expense entries.

*Note: I'm not app author or linked to app developer company

Android Play Store
iOS App Store
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alright thanks.i'll give the app a try.

 

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