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polarzbearz
post Jan 24 2015, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jan 23 2015, 09:40 PM)
i have a semi flexi loan, which i made advance payment (example, loan amount 1k, i pay 1.5k) consistently throughout the year.

When i look at the statement, it seems the 'balance' is not affected by the extra payment i made? are these extra payments calculated separately rather than offset balance? i want to reduce the interest billed, but seems not affected by my extra payments at all?
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Check back your terms & conditions in your loan offer letter.

Semi-flexi (most, if not all) have separated Current Account and Loan Account - and requires you to have standing instructions to "pay" the extra into loan account to offset the interest.

And, some banks will even have "minimum EXTRA repayment" which only will be taken into consideration to reduce the principal amount.

An example of the clause:

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prepayment shall be in multiples of Ringgit Malaysia One Thousand (RM1,000) or such amount as the Bank may at its discretion accept;

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post Jan 24 2015, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 23 2015, 11:14 PM)
Age: 20
still studying
Month income from PAMA Scholarship: 1500

Rent:600
Food and everything:500
Church Tithes: 100

Saving 300 per month
FSM 4000
Bank 300

My financial good? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 24 2015, 11:56 AM)
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 24 2015, 12:04 PM)
laugh.gif Papa Mama Scholarship  wub.gif
at least i no simply waste and spend on unwanted things//
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brows.gif I working adult food only average ~RM300/month (breakfast + lunch dinner) brows.gif brows.gif
polarzbearz
post Jan 24 2015, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 24 2015, 12:58 PM)
shocking.gif  how?
300 a month means average of 10 a day?

ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif
Breakfast if sendiri bikin maybe RM3
then lunch 5, dinner 5  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
if everyday eat cheap meals only
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brows.gif

weekdays:
Breakfast = RM0: own cornflakes + free milo at office (ok maybe not RM0, cause corn flakes also cost abit but can last 1 to 2 weeks+++)
Lunch = RM5~6.50 usual chinese kopitiam stall foods (soup mee la, mix rice la, chicken rice la, etc...)
Dinner = Same

Weekends saturday usually eat home, sunday eat out (same combination as weekdays, but sometimes sunday eat at more exp restaurant @ RM16/meal)

Ok la i admit i cheapskate laugh.gif
polarzbearz
post Jan 24 2015, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 24 2015, 01:10 PM)
notworthy.gif  sifu.. no buy fruits? tongue.gif
snacks?  hmm.gif
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Fruits included in lunch (if I buy), sometimes company gives free fruit also tongue.gif

snacks not so much lo, unless u count in chewing gum also. but 1 botol can last at least 1 week ++++, the sum is negligible tongue.gif

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 24 2015, 01:11 PM)
corn flakes + Milo™ rclxub.gif

I prefer susu sejuk wub.gif
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corn flakes + milk too plain for me tongue.gif

plus milo it's like coco-flakes brows.gif

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Jan 24 2015, 01:18 PM
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post Jan 24 2015, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 24 2015, 01:19 PM)
laugh.gif where are u at? so cheap
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outside office nia, PJ/damansara area tongue.gif
tapao back to office makan.

the cost i provided is averaged per working days cost la, laugh.gif

sometimes i eat more on X day, eat back normal price at Y day, then eat at cheaper price at Z day (usually dinner has this flexibility).

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Jan 24 2015, 01:23 PM
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post Jan 24 2015, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 24 2015, 01:25 PM)
wub.gif if u girl, good for gf.. save money
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post Jan 24 2015, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(Byyyz @ Jan 24 2015, 06:09 PM)
Not sure is this the right place to ask, do appreciate the help and reply of everyone around here. Thanks in advance!!!  smile.gif

I'm a diploma student with zero financial knowledge with a very minimum commitment.
Having 5 digits in the bank account which I'm able to pay for everything without being dependent to parents. Currently having just PTPTN loan only, which I'm not too concern about it as I'll be able to pay it off when I graduate in my degree (graduate in 2017).

Taking into consideration currently working 4-6 jobs (part time jobs & online businesses)at a same time to pursue my diploma, take home income ranging from 4.5k to 6.5k per month.
*Income may vary due to availability of jobs, but has not be less than 4.5k*

I've allocated emergency fund of 3 months, currently with no commitment of vehicle & insurance (since it won't protect me, might as well make use of the money rather than spend it).

Due to lack of knowledge in finance, I took the initiative to search some reading materials to get better picture of financial planning & investment. Hence, not doing any investment currently, cash is sitting in the bank. Which I'd regretted I never start early enough to manage my finance.

If you guys are in my situation, what path will you take to fully utilize the cash to generate more cash and/or allocate it for better cash flow?
And also, is it advisable to invest with current economy situation?

Note: I'm not good in math and finance, so I'll need some time to learn from the basics before making any investment.
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1. Emergency Savings, best is to have 6 months worth but 3 months is OK too. No problems there. In fact you're having it while studying is already thumbup.gif. I only had mine after graduation doh.gif
2. Letting money sitting in the bank is fine, just place it in Fixed Deposits while you are learning on investments (Unit Trust, Property, Stocks, etc).
3. Learn more about the investments - understand them, then only proceed. It's never too late, I bet I'm older than you and I just started recently - the key point is as long as you are started, it's ok.
4. Once you understood more about investments and your own risk profile/risk appetite vs potential gains, then proceed to invest. Personally (currently) I'm investing max 10% of my savings, which I may increase over time when I felt more comfortable.

Here's some articles to get you started:
http://www.thesimpledollar.com/when-should-i-invest/
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/schoo...alPlanning.svdo
http://www.investopedia.com/university/beg...r/beginner2.asp
http://www.moneysense.gov.sg/~/media/Money...tureEnglish.pdf

And lastly, although this is not investment, I believe there are a few good points / takeaways from budgeting (which I believe you already fully practice or semi practice it as evidenced from your esavings)
http://www.youneedabudget.com/method

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Jan 24 2015, 06:59 PM
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post Jan 29 2015, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(melvin471 @ Jan 29 2015, 05:38 PM)
Thanks I guess I can't afford Rio anymore. Btw car has to service every month? yawn.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 29 2015, 05:42 PM)
You allocate the maintenance cost every month, so that you won't get stuck when something happens.
The so-called warranty does not cover certain parts.
Getting an old car(just buy from your parents) and start to learn how to maintain it will be better option.
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Or a video explanation


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post Jan 29 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 29 2015, 08:47 PM)
Good budget app with updates..
bought it when discount at Steam store more then a year ago  thumbup.gif

FYI, this need a lot of patience and time to key in every single purchase in your everyday lifelaugh.gif
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I'm used to it, before YNAB I was already using some other mobile-app to key in my daily transactions and keep track.

YNAB does it even better with budgeting.

Instead of Earn > Spend > Track > Act, with YNAB, it's now Earn > Plan > Spend > Track > Act

Not to say that I have zero plans before YNAB, but it isn't as solid. It's merely a force-savings of lump-sum (cut from paycheck) every month sweat.gif
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post Jan 29 2015, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 29 2015, 09:58 PM)
Just do your self a spreadsheet. FOC thumbup.gif
But I never do as every month my total spending are fixed at rm2500 no matter what happens.
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I custom-created my own excel spreadsheet (which imports data in .csv format from the mobile expense tracking app I use) and after a year, I can seriously say I hated it.

Too much maintenance work (on top of the expense tracking) even after I automated most of the part rclxub.gif

I'd rather pay that one-time fee for YNAB and live with it (I won mine for free anyway whistling.gif)

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Jan 29 2015, 10:09 PM
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post Jan 29 2015, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(cyberboi @ Jan 27 2015, 12:12 PM)
Woh u can do that in year 2015?  thumbup.gif

I used to spent RM300/mth too when i was working in KL! BUT it was 6 yrs ago!
Breakfast: maggie/biscuit/gardenia bread RM5/week
Lunch: RM4+ (90% chicken rice cos its fill your stomach LOL + chinese tea, force to order cos eat at kopitiam)
Dinner:RM4+ (chap fan - always the same stall cos its the cheapest)

On weekends, of cos spend abit more BUT I make a budget to spend ONLY RM300/mth on meal.

I been doing that for 2 years! Now when i think bout it.... its like WOH! how i able to do that last time... sweat.gif
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I guess it's the strict discipline that was instilled into me during my uni days. Strictly RM10/day only laugh.gif

My combination is pretty much the same with you (for Lunch & Dinner) laugh.gif

So how much do you budget for your food now? Since your post says "you used to" tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Jan 30 2015, 01:50 AM)
Any budget tracking related will need to input first doh.gif
Using a stupid phone to scroll a spreadsheet are pretty useless. You hate it as you don't know how to use it.
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Who says we're gonna use phone to scroll through spreadsheet?

And who says I did not enter details to perform tracking? And who says I enter details into spreadsheet through phone?

Don't make assumption bro doh.gif

The reason I hated it is simple. It's not tightly integrated with the third-party mobile apps (for expense tracking, NOT budgeting).

Basically, I have to:-

1) Create my own spreadsheet and INTEGRATE these two aliens (my Budgeting spreadsheet and the imported Expense Tracking data from mobile)
2) Create the spreadsheet to compare actual spent vs. budgeted

And just for this, there's so much maintenance work required (on spreadsheet side).

I don't think I'm considered as one of those "who don't know how to use spreadsheet". It's just NOT WORTH the hassle when there's already some EXISTING software which can do two-in-one easily.

I understand that you're very well off successful person (with > millions in KWSP account), but that doesn't give you the rights to brag nor despite other's opinion.

You like to have your spreadsheet, go ahead. I had mine and I disliked the part where I have to "develop" and "maintain" (the technical side, NOT the data entry side, get it right....) my own spreadsheet


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post Jan 30 2015, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jan 30 2015, 11:34 AM)
bro - just put under ignore la
no point being disturbed by gnats & stuff.. if no value add right?
like responding to a mentally disturbed person on the street that said something about U - no point & gives them satisfaction that U acknowledged their existence laugh.gif
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I guess so, no point getting involved with someone who can't even take others opinion. laugh.gif

No wonder people says "ignorance is bliss" nod.gif
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post Jul 15 2018, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(ann41 @ Jul 14 2018, 08:50 PM)
If my plan works, i can make full settlement for my 2nd PL in a year, from my monthly saving.
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Look up on how personal loan interests are being calculated (upfront) and you'll understand the reason why many disagree with this idea.

Any how the choice is yours sweat.gif

 

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