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naruko85
post Aug 24 2016, 03:45 PM

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Hi, I would like to ask how to properly invest my savings to earn more money. I can save around RM 18k every year, normally I will just dump my extra saving into whichever FD that got high rate, but the FD rate recently are really low which cant intrigue me.

So I need better advice on how to put my saving in different basket to earn more. I have already invest in HLA wealth plan which can get around RM 100k after 30 years. Currently got RM 5k to invest.

So, dump me with all your advice, sifus

currently 23 years old
naruko85
post Aug 24 2016, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Aug 24 2016, 03:49 PM)
Go put some money into a forex scheme for a short term  biggrin.gif
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Hi, can you be a bit more specific? as I have never in contact with these before
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post Aug 25 2016, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Aug 24 2016, 09:27 PM)
Actually, it's not expensive.

Anyone could have given free advise to stay away from any HLA "plan'.
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and why is that to stay away from HLA plan?

I can do the research myself, but i need a guideline to at least tell me how to start so that I can figure out the rest. Or let me know which bank or such you prefer for it so that I can do some comparison also. Thank you
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post Aug 25 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Aug 25 2016, 10:17 AM)
Do the maths and you will know. HLA plan is just a normal ILP, it may or may not make the said dividend. But before you buy it sure make, but once you start paying, it will make lesser all the time.
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ya, the return around 8.35%, still better than current FD. Although it is a long term investment. If short to mid term investment, should I go for fund or shares, provided I got RM 5k for startup
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post Aug 25 2016, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 25 2016, 10:41 AM)
Not to burst your bubble but those kind of stuff from banks usually give you +- FD rates. There are exception where they really give 7-8%. Those are bonds which aim at people who are loaded.
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yes, sometimes the bank do provide exceptional rates at 7-8%, but the minimum around 50k - 80k which I cant afford currently
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post Aug 25 2016, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Aug 25 2016, 12:42 PM)
Well, just go ahead with your goal, since you trust cheater that they are really giving higher dividend than FD.
Tip : type HLA in this forum and see how many people are making > 5% of dividend.
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erm, i didnt mention that I bought their shares or fund, I am talking about Wealth plan, with 30 years policy term..... no its not about dividend as I haven't invest on any of those yet.

So now I am planning to invest in fund or shares. But I didnt access to any platform yet, so I couldn't calculate my return on any of those


And as I say, I am new to this, and still learning, not possible for me to do research on all those shares out there (Local, foreign etc etc). Have to take it step by step, and I now only research on those shares that the ppl in forum mentioned before, if not, I didnt even know that it existed

edit: typo

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post Aug 25 2016, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Aug 25 2016, 02:01 PM)
Buying shares is you really need to spend time to research, listening to others will send you to hell.
But there's a statement : buy low sell high. The question is, when is low and when is high? Nobody will tell you.
Wealth plan is still ILP, as said, just use your money and start build your own spreadsheet.
Just remember this : if you decide to let others to manage your wealth, your wealth will say bye bye to you.
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Yes, must spend time do research, but only if i understand this whole thing, I am actually planning to find something at either bank to help me do the startup 1st, only after when i can take a hold of everything, I will manage it myself. And of coz need to monitor day by day also if other ppl manage, if only ask like after 1 year.... only god will know what happened then

and is fund/unit trust lower risk than shares?

edit: I have already budget the next 5 years of my income (exclude interest from FD etc) & expenses starting this year, so far i got surplus by comparing actual and budgeted, so 3 months + to go

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QUOTE(kengyan @ Aug 25 2016, 02:16 PM)
Fund/unit trust infact are the best start for lazy people to get poorer.
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so you recommend direct go buy/sell shares?
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 25 2016, 02:34 PM)
Just for the background, that kengyan is the dupe of supersound, who thought all insurance and UT agents are con man. Most of us knew he is a tin kosong  biggrin.gif

My take for you is to spend some time reading the relevant threads which interest you. There are a lot of info here for new comers. Then if you don't understand a specific investment, you can ask the sifu here
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maybe will stick to fund/unit trust or shares for now. As time passes, got more and more saving but not sure where to invest.

 

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