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felixmask
post Feb 17 2014, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(torres09 @ Feb 17 2014, 11:06 AM)
Hi sifus, need advise.
If I have a sum of money say 50k, do I dump it into my housing loan or settle my car loan?
Car loan outstanding about 45k, interest is at 2.68%, 5 years to go. If settle now can save around 5k in interest. All calculated by autoworld.com.my loan settlement calculator.

Housing loan outstanding 165k, based on latest statement from bank. Interested at 4.85%. 20 years to go.

I guess settle car loan is better cos HP is simple interest? And use the monthly installment saved from the car to put into house loan each month to reduce principal? (Semi flexi loan)

Pls advise!
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Car interest is fixed rate.
While housing loan interest is varying when BNM change interest rate or OPR, further more the interest is calculated daily basic.

Best reduce the higher interest and volatile interest rate.
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post Apr 7 2014, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(hullabaloo_bard @ Apr 7 2014, 04:50 PM)
Dear all,

Need your independent opinion on my financial status and how can I improve further.

Basically, I'm 26 this year and working at a Bank.

My Incomes:

Net Salary: RM4,500
Rental income: RM1,250 (1 year contract starting April 2014)

Total: RM5,750

My expenses:

Housing loan: RM1350
House rental: RM360 (inclusive utilities)
Car loan: RM450 (Preve)
Food & Groceries : RM600-RM1000 (Let's take RM1000 to be prudent)
T&G: RM100 (Use LRT to work)
Insurance: RM250 (Medical and use the insurance to cover housing loan if anything happen instead of taking MRTA. Hence, need higher limit and therefore higher monthly commitment)
Phone & Astro: RM100 + RM60
CC installment: RM480 (will end in August and September this year.)
Car Oil, Maintenance, Parking: RM300

Total: RM3,990

Surplus: RM1,760 roughly

Savings & Investment

RM10,000 in shares (only in UMW Oil & Gas counter) and RM1,000 in UT (Kenanga Syariah Growth Fund, put in last week with annual return of 23.12%)
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Background

I can do saving but I'm bad in managing my expense. I always use my saving or CC to buy gadgets. I was in huge debt of around RM11K last month. As my priority is to rid off CC debt first, I have used my EPF and deposit from my tenant of RM3K to settle the CC debt.

Now, I'm almost CC debt free. So, I can now focus to build up my saving and investment portfolio.

My target

I prefer to put my money at places that force me to save/invest or hard for me to withdraw out my fund. That is why I invest in property, UT and shares.

At the moment, I'm in the process of applying another housing loan but it will not cause any CF constraint coz the interest will be capitalized for 4 years i.e. during construction period. Have to pay around RM2200 starting from Year 4. I want to invest into this property coz besides no significant impact on my CF, the construction period is pretty long which allows me to save on RPGT if I want to flip it once it is completed. 

I can't put my money in ASB (I'm Malay btw) coz my dad is using it for his retirement fund. It has reached the allowable limit.

Btw, I may get married next year. So, may require significant sum of money for that of around RM15-20K. The makan-makan side will be sponsored by parents fortunately.

What's now

So guys, what do you think should I do with the excess fund of around RM1,760? Should I put everything into investment and withdraw the fund when I need it for my wedding?

Or should I put separate fund for investment and wedding?

And on the investment, what kind of investment should I focus on? I am leaning towards UT though...
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HI hullabaloo_bard,


UT written 23% annually didn't mean reflect last week you invested will return such amount after 1 year.
UT report using certain of formula and date of NAV to promote their fund. The return didn't minus 5% service charges. Be caution and awareness to be UT savy.

Basically investing in UT equities is good idea of investment but not as saving, becoz there risk stock downturn during crisis. You may need understand more investing UT, which it require investment period let said 1-3 year to see the result.

Since you going to marry next year, it not advisable to save wedding money in UT for less than 1 year.
Which any time you require to spend it rather holding it for few year.

Wedding require certain expenses incurred event we budget tight, there still time it will overshot the amount we plan. Therefore the best keep every penny in FD for the wedding funding and never spend more what we hv.

Secondly CC is a killer when come to interest repayment, always remember plan your wedding less than what you hv save. You can bring 1 day happiness during wedding day but you carrying a long life debts to settle.

A good financial savy is CF available for future.
Must remember there a such different saving rm1k yesterday and few year later the same rm1k, even your salary has increased. My suggestion not fixing a fix amount to save but percentage to save accordingly your income.
You can google around the best ratio to save and how to save. More your save % must be greater the expenses is the best.

A rich person can earn more than rm10k but only hv saving habit of 1 year compare , middle income of rm5k with saving of rm2k. Yesterday grocery item my not the same price but expensive for the quantity of item after few year due to inflation.
What i want to highlight when your salary increase your saving also must increase parallel with inflation.


Once you settle your wedding, then another phase is keeping/investing the money.
Forget of honeymoon and other outing..try to get budget event to spend time with your future wife.

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post Apr 7 2014, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(sonicbull @ Apr 7 2014, 10:50 PM)
You can consider options below:
1. Keep 3-6 months of your monthly expenses as your savings,more if u r planning to get married n buy a new house
2. Invest in PRS, private retirement scheme
3. Reduce your expenses
4. Pay more into your housing n car loans to reduce interest paid
5. Pay off your debts first then transfer your income to another savings account which u will unlikely to withdraw
6. Aim to save more every month
7. Do your own research online. Check out bfm ringgit n sense podcast
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A good idea smile.gif

Is a good idea to investing is PRS, but always caution PRS has guideline only can take out after retirement. So becareful if didn't allocated to investment which not available to catch out when time need.
I also invested in PRS provided i hv allocated emergency money, investment (non PRS) in UT Equity or BOND and stock.

Its important to understand type of category early of investing, to avoid get caught in middle.
This also know as diversity the investment rather putting all the egg in single basket.
It applicable to UT and even stock, to avoid the risk of loosing all the investment in single basket.

Knowledge Bank Interest, also one key saving. Car loan using fix rate while housing loan is calculated daily, varying every quarterly by BNM revise the OPR.

If you hv debt of car loan rm50k using fix rate and housing loan rm50k using daily interest, Borrower must know more loan repayment at daily interest able to save/avoid paying more or longer term to the bank.

Juz my 3sen to addup the point above...which a good idea to save and invest. (Saving and Invest carrying different terminology)

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post Apr 8 2014, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(hullabaloo_bard @ Apr 8 2014, 10:27 AM)
Tq for the suggestion.

Would it be wised if I use the surplus of RM1,700 according to below approach:

Saving: RM700
UT: RM1,000

*Will not invest in shares anymore coz of my trigger happy attitude.

So, by let's say by May next year, I will have:

Saving: RM8.4K (So, the remaining wedding fund will come from other sources like bonus)
UT: RM13K (inclusive existing UT of RM1K)

One more thing, should I rather use fund for UT for ASB2 first or maybe split 50/50?
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if you are BUMI and ASB2 is more capital protection compare other UT.

50/50 is spliting total saving or split etc other investment ?
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post Apr 8 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(hullabaloo_bard @ Apr 8 2014, 10:59 AM)
50/50 on investment.

No use I put my wedding fund/savings of RM700 in ASB2 when I will still take it out next year.
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post Apr 8 2014, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(hullabaloo_bard @ Apr 8 2014, 11:32 AM)
So, based on your opinion, will it be good? Or should I park the my saving/wedding fund into ASB2 first?
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i dont hv ASB2, the only concern is their service charge ?

Let said ASB2 deduct 5% and didnt get any profit less than 1 year withdraw , then you lossing more than 5% to park there...

I didnt study ASB, but what i understand ASB less volatile compare external UT fund.

Sorry and forgive me..i dont hv knowledge of ASB service charge now, i need time to check up.
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post Apr 27 2014, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(Hapeng @ Apr 27 2014, 11:57 AM)
more than 10 years.. speechless
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me too 7 year at OSK-UOB AREF.

I have suggestion create a topic to list those fund that have bad record ?
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post Jun 25 2014, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 25 2014, 12:12 PM)

"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."


Let's tell some truths before someone take everything in - hook, line and sinker.  smile.gif

Me and you know you can afford the gold and condos if you want to. And that the ways of creating excellent returns in my previous post was a joke.

What really puzzles me is this thread, version 4 and more than 200 replies... is there any replies with substance or are they mostly empty chit chat?

I meant how much is there to "Personal Financial Management" that one thinks his or her situation is so unique that he/she cannot find a answer from all the previous posts. Afterall, the situations are generally described... which beg general replies.
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nice sharing...the only investment i havent go in is GOLD.

Maybe next time you buy GOLD- might share to us.

I also dunnow which the best price GOLD is down can go in and can made money.

Gold dummies icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 28 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(GeekieLoner @ Aug 28 2014, 04:48 PM)
Nett Income: 4000

Food: 800
Fuel & Toll: 300 + 100
Parents: 700
Entertainment, Shopping & Others: 400
Savings: 1000

Total Left: 700

Currently driving a 9 year old Perodua.
More and more maintenance coming up recently.
Planning to get a car to replace it.
What will be the car affordable by my current financial status?
Will car be cheaper after GST implementation?

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mind to share your age?
I assume 9year working exp- shld hv sufficient money to buy a hse. But you didnt list down.

Nowday hse so expensive..so better save - if afford better buy 1.
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post Aug 28 2014, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(GeekieLoner @ Aug 28 2014, 05:19 PM)
I'm 26 this year.
The car I actually inherited from my parents hence not serving any hire purchase loan.

Meanwhile for house, it's under construction and DIBS.
Hence, loan repayment will only starts after completion.
Housing loan repayment will be ard RM 1300.
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how much you bought your hse?

rm1300 montly for 30year is rm300k condo. thumbup.gif


When you bought ?
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post Aug 29 2014, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 29 2014, 02:56 PM)
Can request for a Personal Finance Sub forum?
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what you want to ask? current topic not sufficient ?
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post Sep 8 2014, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Sep 8 2014, 05:47 PM)
That must be a very nice TV that you bought! Congrats man!

That's my short-term goal as well, at 100k in my savings account!
Let's do it together!
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how old are u?

sure can archieve rm100k but question how long.

Alwasy remember to put timeline. Else after 20year also goal still rm100k.






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post Sep 8 2014, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Sep 8 2014, 06:37 PM)
I am 25  biggrin.gif

I am at arnd 15k atm after dumping 31k into first housing loan

You're right!
Okay I set at age 30, I wish to have 100k in my bank account! At most, before my 31st Bday!  nod.gif
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sure can icon_rolleyes.gif . I archieve rm100k cash at 30 too.

Alot scarify : no complain no car, no complain no gf, no complain fancy phone, no complain fancy internet, no fancy fine dining, no complain holiday, no complain nice clothes, no complain stay at DBKL flat, no complain take bus and train, no complain no clubbing, no complain no starbuck.

remember dont buy thing you dont need, later you will sell thing that you need.

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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 17 2014, 09:07 AM)
Hi sifus,

Below are my current situation :
Housing Loan - RM 133k (Interest 2.85%) --> Staff Loan.
PTPTN - RM 9k (Interest 4%)
ASB Loan - RM 104k (Interest 4.85%) --> Staff Rate.

Below are my savings :
ASB - RM 14k (Total RM 114k include ASB Loan)
Extra savings per month around RM1k - RM1.2k.
From the above outstanding loans, should I close any of the loans or should I do start savings.
Your opinions is greatly appreciated.
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yes..best reduce any outstanding loan.
I dont mean to ask you Nett INCome- which is PnC.

best try to reduce nt necessary expenses monthly.
Made a goal yourself to solve your PTPTN withing 1-2year.

IF you keep dragging the outstanding- LOAN interest still charging you.




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post Sep 17 2014, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 17 2014, 10:34 AM)
For PTPTN, I just pay RM100 monthly.  smile.gif
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this mine opinion said.

Look for the loan with highest incurr interest and timefram able to settle asap.

The less Debt then the less interest your will burden.


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post Sep 17 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 17 2014, 04:06 PM)
Below are my current situation :
Housing Loan - RM 133k (Interest 2.85%) --> Staff Loan (RM918 @ 15 years)
PTPTN - RM 9k (Interest 4%) RM100
ASB Loan - RM 104k (Interest 4.85%) --> Staff Rate. (RM550 @ 30 years)

As for ASB loan, I believe the loan will be self sustain after a year if I decided wanna use the RM550 for different purposes.
Housing Loan, I can withdraw for Acct 2 EPF to pay a lump sum payment to lessen the period. (is it a good idea?)
As for PTPTN, I'm paying lesser than my astro. smile.gif Do you think I need to pay off RM9k lum sump or keep it in ASB and take the dividen to pay it off slowly.
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Mine opinion...other ppl can hv different from mine whistling.gif

Do you need to hv ASTRO?

2ndly - what your INCOME - becoz every month your debts repayment is RM1568 montly.

I doubt you can buy hse at KL except your salary monhtly is above rm5.4K monthly.

A) I presume rm500k condo for 35year; monthly repayment minimum rm2.2k.

If you take Total Debt = RM2.2K +rm1.5K = rm3.7k

Which Bank will use 1/3 as debt ratio servicing;

in summary you need to hv SALRY rm8.1k in order to buy rm500k
Formula
Z= you salary
( z - rm1.5k ) x 1/3 = rm2.2k



B)Maybe we scrap rm500k condo= we take rm300k condo
Loan monthly repayment minimum will be rm 1.3k
If you take Total Debt = RM1.3k +rm1.5K = rm2.8k

Which Bank will use 1/3 as debt ratio servicing;

in summary you need to hv SALRY rm5.4k in order to buy rm300k
Formula
Z= you salary
( z - rm1.5k ) x 1/3 = rm1.3k

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QUOTE(Illusion20 @ Sep 17 2014, 04:23 PM)
hey guys,

i'm not sure whether this is the right place to ask..or to tempat merayu..

i need some advice regarding my debt issue and how to manage it ,all this debt i've accumulated because i was having family problems, since a few years ago. 3 months ago my mother passed away.

i started working in this company for almost 4 years as fresh graduates. With starting salary of rm2k, what i can say, thank god, i got increment every 6 month. fast forward middle of last year my salary was revised to 4k from 3.3k,2.9k,2.7k,2.5k and 2k. last jan my salary was 4.3k and now during mid year appraisal on July, i had my increment to 5k basic, and my director promised me to increase more on this january appraisal, provided i'm working hard and subject to all other management approval.

it was just a few months ago that i used up all my saving,pl money,and cc maxed out. that time i dunno what to do, and all i wanted was going back hometown to be with my mother and support my family.. i was about to default all my payments,resign from my company and just balik kampung. i told my boss my situation, he asked me not to resign. he asked me to take unpaid leave, and do whatever i have to do.

fast forward, here i am still working in the company, and thinking how to pay all this debt... and sometimes i fell kinda regret, why i didn't change job much earlier, when all my colleagues who left getting minimum 7k only for 2 years experience. and I've been here for almost 4 years but i'm happy with what i'm doing in this company.

so, the breakdown for now and coming forward, since my father told me not send give him money as nowadays he can manage things with his pension( i still give him btw, just lower)

as far as i remember, i do not have any late payment, and as for cc, normally i will pay more than minimum everymonth.
easyrhb pl = monthly 1028, normally i will pay 1.1 or 1.2k tenure left 51 month with 35k to clear
maybank cc  = 4.5k limit 5k
citibank cc= 4k limit 12
aeon cc = 4k limit 6k
standard chart cc = 197 p.m balance transfer of 6k, still 32 from 36 months
ptptn = 40k left, last year paid 10k,,which i regret why i didn't save the money. now pay only when i have excess money

now my monthly other payment
car persona = 539 - SI still have 70 months to go
motor = 225 - SI - still have 2 years to go.
rental = 250
unifi  = 169 another one year contract left(claimed from office rm50 another 40 from housemate)
allianz insurance = 179  -
gym = 179 contract one year left

misc like top up, etc.. around rm 200
bike fuel, minimum rm25 for 300km..nowadyas i refill once a week, so like rm100 or so
the rest is for my living expenses.
car is only used for balik kampung.. like 4 full tank(rm75) everytime i balik kampung. i had to because i still have my grandmother in hometown.. and i will go on balik kampung every 2 months starting this month.

so, after i paid all of thees, will have around 600 left for my monthly expenses, not including fuel. if i had to go hometown i had to use cc..

and i just paid 500 for this coming raya qurban for my late mother.

oh ya, i forgot to tell, i'm 27 and single working in private sdn bhd SAP Consulting company. now i only have rm1k left as my savings and i use gym and fasting as to reduce my weight since i'm fat. .
i really need some advice as i dunt really know what to do..and i don't want to go akpk too..
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let summary
Debts:
CC= rm18.5k total , monthly repayment ???
PTPTN = rm40k total, montly repayment ????
Private Loan: rm35K, monthly repayment rm1028 monthly
Monthly Debt repayment : ????


Expenses
Car = rm539 monthly payment
Motor= rm225 monthly
Rental = rm250
Unifi = rm169
Insurance: rm179
Gym = rm179
Misc top up: rm200
Bike fuel : rm 100 monthly
Car fuel : rm 75 monthly

totaly monthly expenses rm1739

Income
Salary rm4k only gross. after deduct EPF & TAX i assume is nett is RM3.5k.After deduct the expense rm1.8K to pay your debt


Mine advice:
1)sell the CAR. use MOTOR or BUS balik kampung. Save you montly rm539.
2)Settle you private loan asap & CC.
Then cancel the CC. Becoz yearly need to pay tax(RM50) to GOV each card.
Since you cant consolidate the CC, best you cancel it after settle the debts.

3) Remove those unnecessary expenses like gym, unifi. save you rm348.
you want gym pls use train & bus to work. Internet can use office one.

Pls dont tell you cant do it..

I live without car,gym, internet and smartphone.

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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 18 2014, 04:05 PM)
of course talk is easy. i'm in debt too two years ago. people who knows me, know my debt.
in 2 years time i managed to settle 10k car loan, 20k PL loan and 25k CC loan. total of 55k.

how do i do it?  brows.gif
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2 year can can clear rm55k, so next 4year can SAVE rm100K investment thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(navink @ Sep 18 2014, 04:28 PM)
i allocate 2k every month for my debt payment and on top of that 100% of bonus will straight go to debt payment.
it is not rocket science.
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Didnt spend/waste/buy anyting..
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 18 2014, 04:39 PM)
so no holiday, trip etc  shocking.gif
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no internet(use office), no smartphone usr rm50 plan, no jolly, no car, .......


"Dont buy thing that dont need; later sell thing that need"

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