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Musikl
post Apr 28 2015, 05:27 PM

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Hey everyone,
Need some opinions.
Heres my status,

Main Income
Net income: RM 3900 (just started work, 1 year in june)

Expenses
Personal Loan: RM 1136/m (100k, 10 years)
ASB Loan: RM568/m (100k,30years)
Commuting: RM 540/month (trains/fuel/parking)
Car maintenance/service: RM 100/month (using gramma's unsused car)
Maxis: RM 100/month
Food: RM 800/month (inc. parents dinner)
Brother's insurance: RM 200/month (self insurance under company)
Gym: RM175/month (this is abit high but i do enjoy the luxury)
Enterntainment: RM 50/month

Side Income
Bussiness A: min. RM 2000/month
Business B: min. RM 300/m
Investment A: RM 550/month (was RM1400, but then they had to restructure thier program and I lost some confidence, so i took out 60% of capital)
Investment B (ASB): Expected about RM 8500 for this year.

I am planning to buy an appartment in 1-2 years time for own stay. Am I on the right track? From my calculation, if everything run smooth. I should be getting all my capital in 2 years, and should have enough deposit for a 500k apartment.

This post has been edited by Musikl: Apr 28 2015, 05:35 PM
Musikl
post Apr 29 2015, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(zenwell @ Apr 29 2015, 12:47 AM)
Just started work got 3900 nett? Doctor? or O&G offshore?
you took a personal loan of 100k?
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OnG. Yeap 100k.
Musikl
post Apr 29 2015, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(syarehey @ Apr 29 2015, 04:24 PM)
any reasons why did you take personal loan? coz the interest is high
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For both businesses and the investment. 3.632% p.a. isnt really high, and it's reducing balance interest.
Musikl
post Apr 30 2015, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Sacrifies @ Apr 29 2015, 11:48 PM)
Your loans seems substantial compare to your income. Your expenses list is short due to the support from your parents, hence you dont feel theres much commitment. Nevertheless, Your expenses will grow along the way. I doubt your entertainment will maintain at RM50.00. Being independant on your own including your own house will inccur new living expenses.

Keep your list of expenses real and be strict managing your 100K. Its easy to side track and influenced by friends, relationship and life style

I would encourage you to develop OD facilities for your side business.
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Thanks for the response. I rarely go out. Most of my friends are old farts with family. Not in relationship. However I do have an expensive hobby. I reserved my bonus for that.
As for the 100k. My investment and businesses can be liquidated easily if anything goes wrong. I plan to stick to this for a year or two.
I'll look into the OD facilities.
Musikl
post Apr 30 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(syarehey @ Apr 30 2015, 02:28 PM)
Personal loan for 3.632% pa and reducing balance? That's alright. but from which financier did you get it from? can share?
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Its a special rate for employees of the company im working in. From one of the local banks. But not MB/CIMB/BR brows.gif
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post Apr 30 2015, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 30 2015, 03:37 PM)
My company are giving PL for 1% a year, with reducing rate whistling.gif
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Wow thats great! happy leverage!
Musikl
post Mar 28 2016, 08:26 PM

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Hello everyone!
Thought of seeking some opinions from fellow forumers on my financials.
Ok here we go.
Income gross: RM4.8k/m (RM4.3k net)
Side income: RM1.5k/m (average)
Last years UT dividend: RM9k
Monthly spend: RM2k/m (fnb, train, car, utilities)

Commitments,
Car: RM 625
Personal Loan: RM 1125
ASB Loan: RM568

Im planning on buying an apartment for rental investment. Property at RM200-220k (havnt neg), and rental could get RM800-1100. Monthly maintenance is RM55.
Bank valued the property at 200k which means ill have to top up the rest, and if loaned 180k, id be paying about RM880.
My plan is to price the rental at RM700 per month, and that the tenant would need to provide 6months of deposit.
I know its low but this is a basic unit, my plan is next year to renovate it abit and set the rate higher. First year id like low risk on the tenant.
What are your opinions on this venture?
26 now and planning on keeping this unit for 5years++
Musikl
post Mar 29 2016, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(deadravel @ Mar 29 2016, 09:45 AM)
hi, first of all, im not some pro financial guy, just here to offer my opinion
im quite impressed with ur achievement at ur age(side income,UT,etc), I think the property investment is a good choice. 200k can rent at 800-1100 is very good, can cover ur loan installment. you don't even have to pay a cent.
I don't think is good idea if u planning to rent out at low price in the first year only so that you can rent it out faster/easier, better research whether renovating the unit and rent out higher is better or not, ask the agent/neighbor around that apartment.
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Thanks for the opinion.
Regarding the first year rental, ill check with the current tenants, see how much they're paying at thr moment. From there ill decide what to put. I just need this rental income for a year so that banks can take this as additional income, and would make any future borrowings easier/increase my credit limit.
But yeah ill make more local insights research. Hehe
Targeting 10k or more by 30!!
Thanks again!


QUOTE(you90 @ Mar 29 2016, 10:29 AM)
which area and housing can get 200 k , mind to share?
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Ill get back to you after I seal of the deal 😆 Heh

This post has been edited by Musikl: Mar 29 2016, 05:01 PM
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post Mar 29 2016, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Mar 29 2016, 06:01 PM)
Just a few question to ask :

1) Do you have enough emergency fund?

2) Are you sure that tenants able to fork out 6 month deposit ? As i know most tenant hardly pay the rental on time.
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1) After buying the house. No. What sort of emergencies anyway? Insurance got, car new(warranty), accommodation covered, work secured (stabil company at current economic condition and im a scholar= company spent 400k on me).
The way i see it, emergency fund is being kept not doing anything other than earning the 7.xx+ dividend in ASB. Atleast with property, i could leverage more by refinancing for further business/property ventures. However, note that i can liquidate the side business.

2) Hence why I put it lower than market. 6 months is only 4.2k. By doing this, I believe id get a more long term tenant. And also could control thier late payments by limiting utilities at stated late period. Lowering the risk of defaulting.

Also note that my young mind is being arrogant

QUOTE(deadravel @ Mar 29 2016, 05:22 PM)
from what I know, there is some apartment/condo studio room which cost 200k+ can rent out around 1k+ to students,
that area got college and U. it is a good investment, but im not sure where is the one u looking at la.  sweat.gif
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Not the same place..

This post has been edited by Musikl: Mar 29 2016, 07:24 PM
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post Mar 30 2016, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(party @ Mar 30 2016, 05:32 AM)
Just to hijack to give my input.

As a renter myself. 6months putnme off entirely. Will definitely such places where the deposits is so high.

There were a lot cases where renters run away but also a lot where owners are not giving depo back so 6mths will put off real alot ppl.
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Even if the rate is rm300 cheaper? Say most of the ads state the rental to be around rm1000, would you go for high rental low deposit, or high deposit (but not rediculously high <5k) and pay alot less monthly rental? Thing is, the tenant can report to tribunal if the owner doesnt return the deposit, but just make sure it is stated in the contract. Im not entirely sure what the owner can do if the tenant runs away with say 2 motnhs owning. So the 6months deposit balances out tenant/owner's risks. Isnt that fair?
Musikl
post Jul 16 2018, 03:49 PM

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Hey all,
Seek your views on my plan to consolidate my loans.
I am planning to do a top up loan on my housing loan next year when I get VP.
Existing home loan is 355k, and hoping to get 450k, 95k top up. (subject to valuation)
Currently serving the interest, and post-VP, I will be paying RM1626.00 @ 4.5% interest

I got a RM60k PL (was 100k, then I refinance at 16th month and paid some amount, down to RM60k). Outstanding of RM57k
I've been paying this for 9 months already, and got another 111 months to go. RM690.48/m @ 3.81% interest

HP with outstanding balance RM46k (Probably 42k if want to settle now) and currently on 19th month. 65 months to go. RM711/m @ 2.77% interest

So total loan id be serving upon VP is 711+690.48+1626= RM3027.48/m

I plan to do the top up loan so that I can pay up the PL and HP.
This would reduce my monthly commitment to RM2300/m (for the 450k home loan)
Difference of RM727.00.

Worth it to do the top up?

I plan to further my studies and work abroad, and my side business/passive income can cover that no problem. Wanted to focus on one account instead of 3 (and few others) for better management.
Also got cash to pay either one full (HP/PL), but prefer to keep for my study budget.

This post has been edited by Musikl: Jul 16 2018, 03:54 PM
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post Feb 6 2020, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ Feb 5 2020, 05:30 PM)
Such big risk... bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  Thanks man. I guess I'll just need to find ways to increase my income and reduce my current debt then only consider buying a property again.

The property is so appealing though, shorter distance to work, with central park that suits my lifestyle and dog friendly.  sad.gif  bye.gif
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Dog friendly? Mind sharing where this is? Desa park?
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post Feb 6 2020, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ Feb 5 2020, 05:30 PM)
Such big risk... bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  Thanks man. I guess I'll just need to find ways to increase my income and reduce my current debt then only consider buying a property again.

The property is so appealing though, shorter distance to work, with central park that suits my lifestyle and dog friendly.  sad.gif  bye.gif
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Dog friendly? Mind sharing where this is? Desa park?

 

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